| digitalrayne | josch: i had the same feeling about the 100mb limitation on the current test rk3388 module, who could ever need more than 100mb :P | 00:12 |
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| minute | i have 1000mbit internet at home ;__; | 00:13 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:13 | |
| minute | (though i only got around 700 or so mbit out of it so far) | 00:13 |
| digitalrayne | ACTION cries in australian | 00:13 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 00:37 | |
| josch | minute: since the collabora rk3588 branch is based on v6.8-rc1 you are probably waiting until the Debian linux packaging team packaged 6.8 for unstable or experimental? | 00:45 |
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| josch | it's "just" 76 commits on top of that :) | 00:46 |
| josch | a lot of those can be thrown out because they only add documentation or device trees we are not interested in | 00:47 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:47 | |
| minute | josch: yes, sounds about right | 00:52 |
| minute | josch: thanks for taking a look! | 00:52 |
| josch | debian unstable is a mess still, so it's understandable that the kernel team is currently busy putting out fires elsewhere instead of packaging 6.8~rc6 unfortunately :/ | 00:53 |
| minute | yeah.... | 00:55 |
| josch | minute: you mentioned you had no terminal before sway started -- was this by any chance connected to PINCTRL_ROCKCHIP? | 01:03 |
| josch | ah nevermind, that's something else | 01:04 |
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| vagrantc | so is the rk3588 module a complete replacement for the imx8mq module, or does it use an adapter board of some kind? | 01:20 |
| minute | josch: this was already fixed | 01:20 |
| minute | vagrantc: hmm i can't follow. it's an adapter similar to rcm4, but for the icore 3588q | 01:21 |
| vagrantc | minute: so there's an adapter board and a separte module with the rk3588? | 01:22 |
| vagrantc | and you're building the adapter board, not the cpu module? | 01:22 |
| vagrantc | at any rate, really exciting to read about the progress with it! | 01:22 |
| minute | vagrantc: correct, the module is from t-firefly | 01:28 |
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| josch | minute: the debian-image-recipes repo you linked to yesterday made me aware of the software bmaptool which is like dd but makes use of a *.bmap file to only copy those blocks that contain actual data. I have a MR which creates these bmap files. I'm unsure whether offering these files in addition to the existing files adds confusion or would be something useful to have. | 10:15 |
| josch | i never used bmaptool before but it is written by a person whose expertise i value very highly so i wanted to give it a try | 10:16 |
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| minute | josch: cool, lets try for sure | 12:48 |
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| hramrach | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEd50uzdF0 an interesting custom computer project | 16:17 |
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| josch | minute: okay, so the pipeline for MR 89 succeeded and according to the bmap file and given the current image size, it's possible to flash an sd-card by only writing 63.3% of the image size. I have yet to see whether an image flashed with "bmaptool copy" works or not and will update the MR once I get to do that. | 16:34 |
| hramrach | the paste latency .. that's a common problem not specific to Reform for sure. A clipboard manager such as parcellite might help. Since it' happens once in a blue moon it's difficult to set up any kind of debugging that would uncover wehre the time is spent. There is generally the problem that the application from which you copy 'owns' the clipboard and must be running and responsive, and | 16:42 |
| hramrach | clipboard manger can help in that it takes ownership of the clipboard instead. There may be other problems, however. | 16:42 |
| swivel | ls/10 | 16:46 |
| hramrach | josch: using bmaptool might also have a downside: data remaining on the medium that is no longer wanted | 16:48 |
| hramrach | Are there any nice modules with the schnappsdragons? It seems that they are recently popular with notebook manufacturers so they will likely have decent kernel support, including sleep. | 16:51 |
| minute | i have a qcs6490 dev board from thundercomm now. but focussing on shipping rk3588 first because it's going well | 16:53 |
| + jacobk (~quassel@2603-8080-b200-7b02-0000-0000-0000-0b71.res6.spectrum.com) | 16:55 | |
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| hramrach | so there is one, unsuprisingly. Thanks | 17:07 |
| hramrach | Obviously it's not possible to support every SoM, and it's an open question what this particular one would bring that would make it worth considering. | 17:08 |
| minute | hramrach: i can answer your question. this is the same soc that is in the fairphone 5 and it is getting a lot of support work by linaro and will potentially work well with mainline | 17:33 |
| minute | and will be supported for a longer time | 17:33 |
| minute | moreover, it has an adreno gpu that has very good mesa support, afaik with opengl 4.6 and vulkan 1.3 as you can see here (freedreno/turnip). https://mesamatrix.net/ | 17:35 |
| josch | hramrach: thanks a lot for your suggestions re clipboard manager. I've never used one so I'll check out parcellite. Since you confirmed that the application from which you copy "owns" the pasted content and must be responsive, i think it's very likely that when it happens, the application was just swapped out and some seconds are needed to retrieve the data. | 17:43 |
| josch | hramrach: the downside of bmaptool you mention is also an important part to consider. I'm still pondering about what the right trade-off is and did not come to a satisfying conclusion for myself yet. What I like about bmaptool is, that if one doesn't like it, one can still dd as usual and ignore the bmap file. | 17:44 |
| josch | wait... the qcs6490 is in the fairphone 5? drats and here i was semi-celebrating that finally my laptop will be faster than the smartphone of the other person in the house ;) | 17:46 |
| josch | oh... for a clipboard manager to also manage the primary selection, it seems that it's necessary to regularly poll for the current selection in an infinite loop... hrm... | 18:02 |
| + erle (~erle@2a02:3102:4286:16:4b37:d106:cd8e:cdf2) | 18:05 | |
| minute | josch: haha, it might still feel faster with linux instead of android | 18:12 |
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| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-159-4.tukw.qwest.net) | 18:31 | |
| josch | maybe... though i'd expect android to be super optimized in terms of the hardware acceleration features it is able to use while trying to use hardware video decoding in gnu/linux is... well... not quite perfect :D | 18:32 |
| josch | it was just so cool when i was still using the imx8mq and i had linux compiling with -j4 and at the same time i was watching 1080p video | 18:32 |
| minute | josch: i think you can do that with -j8 on the rk3588 ^^ | 18:36 |
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| josch | don't tempt me!! ;) | 19:02 |
| josch | on a more serious note, imx8mq had quirks and so does a311d. Personally, I see less downsides for the a311d compared to imx8mq overall for the stuff i do, so that was a really good upgrade. The one thing that a SoM can tempt me with, I think, would be support for suspend-to-ram. | 19:26 |
| josch | (and not the imx8mq suspend-to-ram which would only reduce power consumption by half) | 19:27 |
| hramrach | yes, I guess good upstream support done by somebody else because it's used in other devices is appealing on its own, that's why I thought of those CPUs in the first place | 19:51 |
| josch | that was one of the advantages of imx8mq as well, if i remember correctly, as that is used by the purism librem 5 | 20:00 |
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| erle | i have made a new Keyboard holder for MNT Reform Standalone Keyboard – LeoCAD https://mister-muffin.de/p/tidz.txt – Rendering https://mister-muffin.de/p/arHR.png | 20:03 |
| erle | this one puts less strain on the lego and actually aligns with the keyboard bottom due to the angle | 20:04 |
| erle | if you import the txt file into LeoCAD you can use that to render an instruction manual | 20:05 |
| erle | or just flip through the steps in the CAD app | 20:05 |
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| josch | minute: i rebased the Debian package onto linux 6.8 and added the collabora rk3588 patch stack on top -- do you have any special config options that i should enable before hitting the build button? | 21:10 |
| + jacobk (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) | 21:12 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a18:fc00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 21:47 | |
| minute | josch: woaaah | 21:53 |
| minute | josch: can't wait to try it, unfortunately i don't have the details in my head now, but you need all the new modules of that stack and basically all rockchip related modules | 21:54 |
| josch | the new config options of the stack just seem to be PHY_ROCKCHIP_SAMSUNG_HDPTX, VIDEO_SYNOPSYS_HDMIRX, PHY_ROCKCHIP_USBDP, ROCKCHIP_REGULATOR_COUPLER, ARM_ROCKCHIP_CPUFREQ, DRM_PANTHOR | 22:04 |
| josch | aha, i found the config used for linux-image-6.8.0-rc1-g60c00a5eccfb_6.8.0-rc1-g60c00a5eccfb-1_arm64.deb | 22:07 |
| josch | for a start i'll add CONFIG_NVMEM_ROCKCHIP_OTP CONFIG_PHY_ROCKCHIP_SAMSUNG_HDPTX CONFIG_PHY_ROCKCHIP_USBDP CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_INNO_HDMI CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_LVDS CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_REGULATOR_COUPLER CONFIG_SPI_ROCKCHIP | 22:11 |
| josch | maybe somebody sees some other useful options in the diff here: https://mister-muffin.de/p/i0NW.txt | 22:15 |
| josch | there are essentially those options only present in the collabora kernel image but not in my currently installed one | 22:16 |
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| minute | josch: no panthor? | 23:20 |
| minute | josch: ah you mean you'll add to that list | 23:21 |
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