2024-02-29.log

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polezaivsanihello, mountaineers! i've recently learned about the interim project and setting off on a lisp+p9 journey myself am wondering if there has been any recent undertaking in these waters?03:12
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joschPSA: do *not* "apt upgrade" your Debian unstable system until the dust around the 64-bit time_t transition settles07:21
joschthere is currently a several thousand package NMU being done to support 64bit timestamps on armhf and this is affecting all architectures07:23
joschfor example installing the new libglib2.0-0t64 package will make glib based GUI programs fail to start with "No GSettings schemas are installed on the system"07:23
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minutejosch: eeek @ time 11:20
joschyup, on armel and armhf you cannot install moderately important packages like systemd and python right now :)11:23
joschbut not being able to install is at least better than being able to install and then having your system not boot anymore because your login manager needs pam or glib2.011:23
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AbortRetryFailjosch: might be a good idea to post that on the forum too. thanks for the heads-up.12:58
joschAbortRetryFail: there should be enough RC bugs set up right now which will be caught by apt-listbugs if anybody tries to upgrade right now13:00
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minuteok i just managed to get dual display working on rk358821:05
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)21:07
jackhill🎉21:12
minutereally nice21:13
minutegetting this patchstack into reform-debian-packages will be harsh though21:13
joschminute: do you need assistance?21:20
minutejosch: at some point probably :321:23
minutei don't know the diff to mainline yet21:23
minutei'm using this midstream fork https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/panfrost/linux21:24
joschooooh okay21:24
joschi thought the problems were related to the reform-debian-packages specific patching process21:24
joschyeah, getting that rebased might be troublesome :(21:24
minutei'm using this branch https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/panfrost/linux/-/tree/panthor-v5+rk3588?ref_type=heads21:25
minuteso we would need to get a list of patches between that and 6.6.....21:25
minutemight make more sense to wait for debian 6.8 or 6.921:25
joschyeah, 6.8 looks like a better target21:26
minutemy changes to that midstream kernel so far are pretty minimal21:27
minutebasically only dtsi + dts work21:27
minuteand commenting out one spammy debug message, but i think they will also remove it later21:28
minutewhich means we'll get a pretty good mainline situation with rk3588 i think21:28
- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)21:28
joschalways tough to know whether one put the money on the right horse when choosing a soc :)21:29
minutemega tough21:29
joschneeds a powerful crystal ball... :/21:30
minutewell, i know good teams are working on both rk3588 and qcs649021:31
joschi know a couple of people from linaro -- i'm happy they are still alive and kicking :)21:39
minutenice21:43
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+ jacobk (~quassel@64.189.201.150)22:04
senzillaNot that I like Windows, but for what it's worth, the "Windows on RPi" effort seems to have moved on to focus on rk3588 these days22:13
senzillaI don't know what that says, but I guess it says something :D22:14
senzillaI think rk3588 is a very good bet either way :)22:16
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minutesenzilla: yeah seen that :D23:20
minuteon rk3588 there's basically two things for me to fix: 1. second pcie port (hangs kernel when enabled) 2. ethernet only works at 100mbit23:21
minuteah and 3. sd card at normal speed, currently works only at reduced speed, need to check what's going on23:22
minutebut one can already use it as a laptop23:22
minutewhat works: dual display, usb3+2, mpcie, sound, rtc, eth at 100mbit, and of course 8x cpu, gpu, 16gigs ram23:23
minuteah and 256gb emmc!23:24
sigridnice23:26
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