2024-02-15.log

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sevanon the bpi-cm5 listing, where it states compatible with rpi cm4. That'll mean you could use the rpi adapter for the reform (software support aside) https://www.banana-pi.org/en/core-board-and-kit/153.html02:03
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jackhillheh https://www.crowdsupply.com/ov-tech-gmbh/pi-mx8-module perfeect for reform ;)02:44
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digitalrayneminute: have you read about A311D2?04:21
digitalraynefaster little cores + up to 16gb RAM, looks like there will be a banana pi CM5 with it04:23
digitalrayneoh actually looks like it may be available now04:24
digitalraynei was interested as it has LVDS for interfacing older displays04:24
digitalrayneok so not GA, but you can ask for samples apparently04:26
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digitalrayneoh yeah similar to what you posted sevan04:28
digitalraynelooking at the schematics it seems like HDMI output might be on different pins04:29
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+ eibachd (~eibachd@2a01:599:31f:c30d:91ad:8aa8:1cda:152)07:17
joschdigitalrayne: the latest status for the a311d2 that i'm aware of is, that support for it is not yet in mainline linux -- do you know more about that?07:19
digitalraynenope! just purely geeking out on the specs josch 07:26
digitalraynei bet mainline support will take a while, at least that's been my experience with older amlogic stuff, not sure how long it took with a311d07:27
digitalrayneor if is fully there yet07:27
digitalraynei just looked up the s905 which was the last amlogic SoC i played with, and that is still not fully upstreamed afaict07:30
digitalraynea good table here: https://linux-meson.com/hardware.html (doesn't mention a311d2)07:32
digitalrayneoh it does look like in the 6.6 changelog though there was an initial arm64 DT submitted for a311d207:34
digitalraynehttps://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20230629073419.207886-4-tanure@linux.com/T/07:34
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~quassel@129.110.242.173)07:35
joschdigitalrayne: there is a very active channel #linux-amlogic07:43
joschdigitalrayne: if you are curious you could ask there07:44
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sevanI thought maybe the rpi4 cm4 might be worth a shot since it works out cheaper & there's an 8GB option. Then, I looked at the 7z benchmark figures posted on the mnt product page. quite the difference in figures between the bpi & rpi13:04
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sevandigitalrayne: where did you see the 16GB ram reference? (on the BPI-CM5 page it states a max of 8GB)14:54
jackhillI can't seem to email support@mntre.com "We reject all .us domains". I guess I'll try a different email address, but I did want to use the one associated with my order. What's the problem with .us?15:35
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- mark_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)15:56
jackhillany chance in getting the policy changed? I'll note that .com is also USA controlled.16:04
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minutejackhill: i can fix that, sorry. there was just a lot of spam coming from certain uncommon tlda17:37
minutetlds17:37
vkoskivDo you run a mail server? I've been looking at moving away from gmail for my personal address17:38
vkoskivI don't know if running my own server is realistic or if I should just use some service17:38
sigridit is very realistic, even though there are people who will tell you it's impossible17:40
sevanlikewise, selfhoster17:41
vkoskivAny links to resources much appreciated17:41
sigridI went through https://nixos-mailserver.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ on my server17:41
sigridreceiving and sending mail successfully so far for some time17:41
vkoskivAfter a ~year of trying to learn mutt, I recently gave aerc a try, and I'm really loving it.17:42
sigridthere is also stuff like https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy but I never tried that17:43
sevanvkoskiv: I'd say if you haven't got a spare domain, setup a subdomain & play, when you're comfortable, start with the switch over of your actual domain17:43
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- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~quassel@utdpat242053.utdallas.edu)18:27
jackhillminute: thanks!! In the meantime I sent a message to support from another address.18:35
jackhillvkoskiv: Sort of: I'm a member of the internet hosting cooperative, hcoop.net18:36
anzuvkoskiv: Sometimes other email providers block your incoming emails for whatever reason, and in that case it helps being a little bit of a larger email provider18:50
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joschvkoskiv: i'm also running my own mailserver for my main email address josch@mister-muffin.de and the only problems i've had so far was a) teaching postfix to the thing i want it to do (but that was only a one-time cost) and b) some other email providers refuse my mail19:55
joschfor example, in germany, we have a popular email provider (t-online.de) which clearly told me that they *only* allow email from commercial email servers19:56
jackhilljosch: yeah, I've had the same experience, it can be frustrating and demoralizing, but I do believe there's value in controlling my computing. That's why I'm here too :)20:02
vkoskivYeah, I can always fall back on a commercial service for critical emails that aren't accepted by some service20:09
vkoskivI'd like to try and come up with a new domain I could use for projects. I own vkoskiv.com and a few other random ones, but something with a cool name to share things on20:10
vkoskivI do have access to my surname's domain, for a long time I have firstname@surname.fi20:12
vkoskivThat confused a lot of people when they asked me for my email :D20:12
vkoskivMaybe I should bring that back for personal stuff, then a new project domain name for the rest/project related correspondence.20:12
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+ Guest2021 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae)20:39
digitalraynei self host mail as well and can't imagine going back, i find interacting with other servers is easiest if you have a "reputable" ip address & make sure to prefer sending via TLS, and make sure you have your DKIM signing, DMARC & SPF DNS records set up. i use cyrus imapd + postfix, with postgrey and spamassassin for mail filtering21:02
vkoskivThat does sound like quite a few weekends of hacking before my first email is received by $BIGCORP :D21:02
digitalraynethere's a few "mail in a box" things people have built but i reckon doing it manually it's maybe like, a good solid weekend day of hacking21:03
digitalraynebut yeah there's definitely an up front time investment, it's very low maintenance once it's working through in my experience, been running mail servers for like, at least 10 years now as my main email and the only thing that has changed is SPF, then DKIM, then DMARC being introduced 21:04
digitalraynesevan: i saw the 16gb reference on the actual datasheet for the a311d2 https://dl.khadas.com/products/vim4/datasheet/a311d2-quick-reference-manual-v0.6.pdf21:06
digitalraynewell that's not the full datasheet but you'll see the "max 16GB address space" referneced on there21:07
digitalraynesevan: oh my bad, that's the non-DDR memory capacity, so it's halved for DDR memory21:11
digitalrayne"64-bit DRAM memory interface with dual ranks, max 16GB total logic address space and max21:12
digitalrayne8GB total DDR capacity physical address" -> from the full data sheet21:12
+ klardotsh (~klardotsh@c-67-170-115-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)21:13
sevandigitalrayne: ah :)21:14
sevanthey have the CM5 modules on their alibaba store, minimum order of 5 at a time though. The shops they have listed for England only have a small subset of their hardware. Nothing CM related though :/21:16
digitalraynevery interesting21:16
digitalraynei might grab one to play with the LVDS output and see if I can use it to drive the displays in some of the older vaio machines I want to retrofit21:17
digitalraynehopefully they end up on their aliexpress store21:18
digitalraynei also want to mess around with the lvds output on a nitrogen8m plus SoM at some point21:24
sevancheap module with 8GB RAM https://arace.tech/products/milk-v-mars-cm?variant=42367762301108 no emmc, nor wifi though. If you want that it only come with 2GB RAM.21:26
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senzillaminute: on the rk3588 SOM, it looks like you mapped all PCIe 3.0x4 ports. Are you planning to add support for these on thr Reform Next motherboard?23:20
senzillaminute: the rk3588 also has three PCIe 2.0x1 controllers, of which one seems to be mapped on the new SOM. Are you planning on mapping the other two controllers as well?23:22
+ theesm (~theesm@2a01:4f9:c011:adc3::)23:32

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