2024-02-11.log

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minutedigitalrayne: maybe i can find the thread tomorrow, i prototyped a bmc based on olimex' little stm32mp1 som02:20
digitalraynecool! running a full system on it definitely opens up a bunch of possibilities02:20
minutehttps://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/STMP1/02:21
minutecheap, open, runs mainline, no blobs02:21
digitalraynenice, similar specs to the arm core on the ast2500 too, which is used in a lot of commerical bmcs02:21
minuteyep02:22
digitalraynethere's a yocto bsp for this som too, which means it would be pretty easy to port openbmc to it directly and not have to mess around with firmware so much02:22
digitalraynenice02:23
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Twodisbetterminute: does this look familiar? 14:40
Twodisbetterhttps://upload.im.boosterfive.com:5281/upload/w3pHVgqJO2Fa5z1R8OD0bHuY/9-Lq8NXmRBenNTuyVZRU8w.jpg14:40
Twodisbetterminute: my question to you is: would you be ok with me using the MNT keycaps with the Mattbook UMPC project? The idea being at how versatile it is and how aligned with MNT's mission it is. 14:41
Twodisbetterminute: if things work out I could be ordering 1000s of keycaps sets. But most likely at least 50-100 sets. 14:42
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senzillaminute: I am looking at the schematics for the rk3588 SOM and it looks like you managed to map all PCIe 3.0x4 lanes, as well as the three PCIe 2.0x1 . Is that correct?14:52
hramrachTwodisbetter That looks a lot like pocket Reform. The SEO is abysmal, there are too many things named mattbook so can't say what it is exactly15:07
minuteTwodisbetter: an easier approach might be to just directly get mbk glows with legends15:20
minuteTwodisbetter: from fkcaps15:20
minute(reform keycaps are fkcaps mbk glow with custom engraving)15:20
Twodisbetterhramrach, SEO is going to be bad just because it isn't announced or advertized anywhere. Still not even sure a crowdfunding campaign is even going to happen. 15:24
Twodisbetterminute: sure thing. I just would love to be able to kind of advertise for you. And even if I don't do it directly sending your money for the keycaps seems like a good thing. 15:25
TwodisbetterBut I understand what you mean. I'll look into it. 15:25
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hramrachTwodisbetter: how did you attach the joint to the plastic case and rout cabling between the two parts, and does it work for you?15:46
Twodisbetterhramrach, that is a Framework hinge from the Framework 13 case. 15:54
Twodisbetterhramrach, there is only one cable coming from the display to the mainboard. 15:54
hramrachyes, it looks like a notebook hinge. These are desgined for metal housing or metal supports in plastic housing. How is the printed case coping with the stress of moving the hinge?15:56
hramrachI am not a mechanical engineer, my layman expectation is that the hinge will break out unless you can bolt it to a metal piece which in turn would be bolted to the far side of the housing16:06
Twodisbetterhramrach, actually it does quite well with PLA, but this case is currently a polycarbonate which is a lot more durable and heat resistant. 16:21
TwodisbetterI suspect I will have no issues. This is just the prototype case though. Production will be aluminum if one wishes. 16:21
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TwodisbetterI have been VERY impressed with just how useful PLA is in general16:36
TwodisbetterAnyway the design, fit and finess, and quality of the the Pocket Reform is going to be awesome. I can't wiat. 16:36
TwodisbetterAnyway the design, fit and finess, and quality of the the Pocket Reform is going to be awesome. I can't wait. 16:36
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minuteTwodisbetter: yeah that's cool, we can't really scale keycap engraving without keyboards atm. engraving is done on a keyboard, then keycaps pulled. tedious16:43
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Twodisbetterminute: gotcha! Thanks for the explanation. 17:00
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hramrachTwodisbetter: ther eis also use for devices that are completely made up of readily available parts with no central distribution point. Aluminium case is cool but hard to replicate, 3d printed is much easier to replicate - provided it works from both mechanical and EMI perspective.18:54
hramrachif you are not going for big enough production that tooling for custom parts can be funde then easily available parts are key18:56
elektronyay! \o/18:59
elektronfixed my keyboard issus, updated keyboard and LPC firmware, got new batteries and battery cradles installed.19:00
elektronI'm very happy with the maintainabilty and upgradeability of the reform2. Good Work, minute!19:01
elektronalso, My partner really likes the view through the clear bottom plate. She thinks it looks neat. ;-)19:04
swivel^.^19:58
minuteelektron: thank you! and glad to hear the repairs worked out!20:06
minutehttps://www.phoronix.com/news/Xfce-4.20-Wayland-Roadmap20:12
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hramrachso maybe a generally usable desktop is coming to wayland20:18
minutewell, there's KDE and GNOME, they're just a bit large for resource constrained systems... or minimalists20:21
minutei am also pretty happy with our wayfire version, it's just missing an easily configurable launcher thing in the taskbar and a few bits of polishing20:22
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hramrachwayfire and sway aren't for everyone. Let's not talk about GNOME. KDE a bit like GNOME does too many things its own way regardless of compatibility. usability, ... , LXDE/XFCE/Cinnamon/Mate are the general ones in my view.20:32
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minutehramrach: that is very subjective though.20:39
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TwodisbetterI think Sway is the bomb. Super useful, gets out of the way really well, and handles a single monitor with ease. I would prefer it everywhere. I am just not sure about the multi monitor support, etc. 20:41
hairuindeed <3 sway20:42
hramrachI also think that out of the currently available compositils Sway is the most usable for me. However, not everyone whats that. Something that most users can understand and does not cause too much technical problem is needed.20:43
hairuhow is lxqt doing these days?20:44
hramrachACTION appreciatiing different keyboard tone on a new table20:51
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elektroncoming from other tiling window managers, sway is pretty okay..20:56
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hramrach`/buf121:03
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hairuelektron: tbh i just keep defaults in sway most of the time.21:25
hairui have very simple desktop needs21:25
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joschi camek from awesomewm and the one big thing that was missing in sway for me was auto-tiling21:46
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Twodisbetterelektron, are you a fan Elektron the synth company? 22:01
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elektronhairu, yea. sway has basic command parity with i3.23:32
hramrachi3 is so verbose. It has window titles, and workspace list or what?23:47
elektronso does sway..23:50
elektronTwodisbetter, not familiar23:54
elektronACTION is a fan of science and misspelling things...23:57

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