| digitalrayne | can't wait to see what you've come up with, i haven't designed a flex pcb before but they look fun, could imagine noise being an issue for most of them i've seen | 00:46 |
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| digitalrayne | minute: when you get a free second (you can laugh at this) can you create a project on source.mnt.re for the openbsd uboot project? if you give me access i'll push up what i have for openbsd with nvme + wifi support on reform if you're ok with that? | 00:53 |
| digitalrayne | i can put together a ci job too to build the flash.bin and maybe installer image as well | 00:53 |
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| minute | digitalrayne: ok! | 00:59 |
| minute | digitalrayne: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-openbsd | 01:00 |
| digitalrayne | thank you! | 01:01 |
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| digitalrayne | bluerise: i've pushed uboot with your patches and the couple of tweaks i've made to https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-openbsd, and updated the thread on the community site to point there, so feel free to rebase your branch however you like :) ^^ minute | 02:20 |
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| sl | digitalrayne: what was the url for your flash.bin again, i'd like to try the latest tonight if you don't mind | 02:49 |
| sl | i have no linux on hand atm | 02:49 |
| sl | ah, there are channel logs | 02:51 |
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| sl | digitalrayne: how are you booting into openbsd after the successful install? | 04:19 |
| sl | latest flash.bin recognized my nvme, i performed an install, but not sure how to boot sdcard to nvme | 04:20 |
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| digitalrayne | sl: I use the bootloader and u-boot on the SD card, the OpenBSD bootloader will prefer the install on the NVMe | 05:16 |
| sl | it didn't for me, every time it just boots back into the installer | 05:17 |
| digitalrayne | you could copy it to eMMC if you preferred, I don't mind having the SD card in, makes it quicker for me to test things | 05:17 |
| sl | yeah, i prefer sdcard as well | 05:17 |
| digitalrayne | do you only have OpenBSD on the NVMe? | 05:17 |
| sl | no | 05:17 |
| sl | and openbsd is the second partition | 05:17 |
| sl | i realize openbsd prefers to be the first partition, but is this really still impossible | 05:18 |
| sl | i have been using openbsd for 25 years but i rarely do nonstandard installs anymore | 05:19 |
| digitalrayne | I doubt it's impossible, I think you'll probably just have to do some research to work out how you need to configure u-boot to load whichever bootloader you're using to boot OpenBSD | 05:19 |
| sl | in the olden times i used freebsd bootloader to find openbsd elsewhere on the disk | 05:19 |
| digitalrayne | I've had success using grub in between on x86_64 but haven't tried any dual-boot scenarios with OpenBSD on other architectures | 05:19 |
| sl | but this was a very very long time ago | 05:20 |
| digitalrayne | grub has the kopenbsd module for loading and booting OpenBSD kernels | 05:20 |
| sl | or maybe i just stop being clever and put openbsd first on the disk | 05:20 |
| sl | ok | 05:20 |
| sl | thanks for your efforts on this :) | 05:20 |
| digitalrayne | oh yeah no worries, I'll be curious to hear about what you try | 05:21 |
| digitalrayne | it might be worth noting I'm also encrypting my disk, perhaps the bootloader is preferring that after it unlocks it | 05:24 |
| sl | yeah, i tried that :) | 05:25 |
| sl | is that flash.bin on your site the latest version? | 05:25 |
| digitalrayne | it should be, but without the wifi fix, I'll push a newer version now | 05:25 |
| sl | i will probably just redo everything with openbsd first on the disk | 05:25 |
| sl | ah, thanks | 05:25 |
| sl | i don't have a linux environment setup | 05:25 |
| digitalrayne | ok it's the latest version now | 05:26 |
| sl | i have another fun intermediary quirk where for some reason most openbsd mirrors can't complete downloads over my mobile phone wifi tethering. i thought i was going crazy for a while, but it's consistent across different machines. | 05:27 |
| sl | thanks!~ | 05:27 |
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| minute | bizarro hybrid riscv/arm/8051 soc https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/07/sophgo-sg2000-sg2002-ai-soc-features-risc-v-arm-8051-cores-android-linux-freertos/ | 11:26 |
| hramrach | they should put na alpha and a sparc on it for completeness | 11:38 |
| hramrach | technically, putting aplha on a SoC is not really an option, not without writing an ATF - Alpha Trusted Firmware | 11:40 |
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| minute | hehe | 12:38 |
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| minute | some more details about my next attempt to combat 2.4ghz wifi -> edp interference with ls1028a https://community.mnt.re/t/research-into-ls1028a-wifi-to-edp-interference/1762/4 | 13:00 |
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| digitalrayne | putting a copper pour on the other side of the digital signals is smart, when i used to do eurorack module stuff this was super helpful for combatting noise from switching powersupplies and cpus on audio lines | 21:58 |
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| minute | digitalrayne: ah nice | 22:16 |
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| sl | digitalrayne: okay, openbsd + encryption + nvme full disk boots automagically from sdcard image | 22:56 |
| sl | digitalrayne: now that i knowb this works i'll try to get multiple os on the nvme | 22:56 |
| minute | sl: neat | 23:00 |
| sl | well, i managed to reproduce the science experiment, anyway :) | 23:01 |
| sl | the intel 6205 wifi i use for 9front is detected but openbsd says "not configured" | 23:02 |
| sl | this card works in openbsd 386 and amd64 | 23:02 |
| digitalrayne | it's possible the relevant driver is not compiled into the default OpenBSD kernel for arm64, but I haven't checked | 23:06 |
| digitalrayne | my testing was with an atheros device | 23:06 |
| sl | yeah | 23:07 |
| sl | nobody expects iwm on arm | 23:08 |
| sl | so... is this pulling the boot kernel from the sdcard? | 23:08 |
| digitalrayne | the boot kernel should be coming from the nvme | 23:09 |
| sl | ok | 23:09 |
| sl | it confuses me because it calls it sd0 at the boot prompt no matter what | 23:09 |
| digitalrayne | oh that's interesting, maybe it is pulling the kernel from sd card | 23:10 |
| digitalrayne | i haven't actually removed the install stuff from the sd card yet so it's definitely possible | 23:10 |
| sl | is there an environment variable or ioctlnor something that tells what the running kernel is | 23:10 |
| digitalrayne | maybe something in sysctl | 23:11 |
| sl | hm there's version string info but no disk path | 23:11 |
| sl | or file name | 23:11 |
| digitalrayne | i know it loads boot.conf from the nvme so to be sure you could always set the "boot" command to use in there | 23:12 |
| digitalrayne | i'll do some testing later but if you work it out let me know | 23:13 |
| digitalrayne | you could also check the value of 'device' in the bootloader before booting | 23:14 |
| sl | yeah, device is always sd0a | 23:14 |
| digitalrayne | it'll be good to confirm this because i'd want to make sure we're using the reordered kernel on each boot too | 23:14 |
| sl | even when it boots the sdcard | 23:14 |
| sl | yeah, since install74.img is read only | 23:15 |
| digitalrayne | probably need to tune boot.conf then | 23:15 |
| digitalrayne | just confirmed mine uses sr0a not sd0a | 23:16 |
| digitalrayne | sr0 = softraid0 for disk encryption | 23:16 |
| sl | ah ok, maybe i just didn't squint hard enough | 23:16 |
| digitalrayne | possibly mine is switching over due to the full disk being encrypted too | 23:17 |
| sl | mine is currently setup that way too, that was the only way i could boot (so far) | 23:18 |
| josch | openbsd without iwm on arm reminds me of when I found that Debian linux on arm did not have the joystick drivers enabled because who in their right mind would attempt playing a game on arm?? | 23:23 |
| sl | haha | 23:23 |
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| josch | (currently 12 hours into a new stardew valley playthrough on my reform) | 23:24 |
| digitalrayne | lol, the retropi developers i'm sure had similar feelings | 23:24 |
| josch | well, retropi are not using debian so they didn't run into that issue :) | 23:25 |
| digitalrayne | ahhhhh | 23:25 |
| digitalrayne | i didn't know stardew valley had an arm64/linux port, that's cool! | 23:26 |
| josch | i mean they use raspbian which is based on debian but raspbian linux kernel packaging differs heavily from the one in debian | 23:26 |
| digitalrayne | this is normally when someone says "it doesn't have a port" and proceed to tell me the incredible thing they did to get it working | 23:26 |
| josch | digitalrayne: it does have a linux port but only for x86 | 23:26 |
| josch | i'm "emulating" it with box64 | 23:26 |
| digitalrayne | haha nice | 23:27 |
| digitalrayne | i rememeber the raspbian kernels being not based on mainline kernels for a long while, is that the case? | 23:27 |
| josch | i can't answer that -- i'm not a raspbian user | 23:28 |
| josch | i always used plain debian on my raspis :) | 23:28 |
| digitalrayne | as is right and proper :) | 23:28 |
| josch | nah, derivatives are super useful | 23:29 |
| josch | i mean for the reform we have our own derivative :D | 23:29 |
| digitalrayne | yes of course, sorry that was an unclear joke | 23:29 |
| josch | nah still funny :D | 23:29 |
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