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| sevan | josch: re pcie cards, are they detected a different devices between that system & another where they are working? | 00:12 |
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| sevan | on x86 with ati, I was missing firmware for my cheapo ancient ati card. Once I put that into place, the tux's appeared on boot & resolution switch up. | 00:14 |
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| sevan | Is it feasible to make a device with a square LCD panel? | 01:25 |
| sevan | device == laptop | 01:25 |
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| sknebel | square LCDs are surprisingly rare | 01:31 |
| sknebel | in interesting sizes | 01:32 |
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| sevan | I know of one monitor still manufactured by Eizo, and available only in Japan :) | 01:33 |
| sknebel | some seem to exist, at least various chinese digital signage companies say they sell them, but they seem to be a niche item. e.g. I'm not sure how good of an indication that truly is, but I've never found one I could just order without "call us", like I could many other displays | 01:34 |
| sknebel | only the 27"/28" that Eizo and Samsung (afaik) sell | 01:34 |
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| sknebel | and small ones, 5" 720x720px | 01:34 |
| sknebel | (the latter adafruit etc have, you can get on aliexpress, ... so those are available) | 01:35 |
| sknebel | but nothing inbetween | 01:35 |
| sevan | too small, 27" Reform? ten up the 17" MBP | 01:35 |
| sevan | wait, the 27" monitor, not the panels, right? | 01:36 |
| sknebel | you can find the panels used in that occasionally | 01:38 |
| sknebel | as "dont want to pay full price? buy panel + electronics and make your own case" project even sometimes :D | 01:38 |
| sevan | nice :) | 01:38 |
| sknebel | I wish I understood what drives "this is what companies claim exists" and "this is what someone just sells on aliexpress" for displays. sooo many fun sizes/shapes you cant easily get | 01:40 |
| sevan | it would be nice to have matte square panels readily available. | 01:41 |
| sevan | Just realised the panel and backlight on my 12" powerbook are going to give up at some point. | 01:42 |
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| josch | sevan: firmware is there, lscpi and dmesg output is fine and resolution is fullhd -- but framebuffer only | 04:17 |
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| hramrach | who would use a square display, for what? | 10:50 |
| hramrach | when dealing with movies widescreen is useful, when dealing with simulators or movie editing extrawide is useful, when dealing with text or code portrait is usefu, when folding on top of a keyboard widescreen is usefull. Square when? | 10:52 |
| hramrach | I understand that in some notebooks (almost) square is a compromise between folding on top of a keyboard and portrait, and those 4:3 or 4:5 laptop screens while rare can still be found | 10:53 |
| hramrach | https://www.waveshare.com/product/displays/lcd-oled/lcd-oled-1/5inch-1080x1080-lcd.htm | 10:56 |
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| minute | i am looking into FOSS speech recognition tools and realized this might be an interesting use case for the etnaviv-supported NPU, but not sure if it can be leveraged for that (usefully) | 12:50 |
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| sevan | hramrach: some find it easier for interacting with text since you can fit more context on screen. Some just yearn for the past :) thanks for the 5" panel link. | 15:59 |
| sevan | *clicks* 129 dollars! for 5 inches! | 16:00 |
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| hramrach | That's why these displays are not popular. The market is small, and the set-up costs for any type of display are non-trivial | 16:16 |
| vkoskiv | I love the idea of Gentoo, but I just looked up how to upgrade a system I set up in 2021, and the *official* guide says it might be easier to just re-install the whole thing :D | 16:25 |
| vkoskiv | I think it is the only distribution that can reasonably be installed on 1993 hardware though, which is pretty dang neat IMO | 16:26 |
| hramrach | sevan: Apparently thre is still stock of the displays used for Thinkpad x61 upgrades which are something like 4:3 12": https://www.panelook.com/HV121P01-101_HYDIS_12.1_LCM_overview_3604.html Not sure how much the stock information of panelook can be trusted but it's standard notebook part, it's likely to be available, or an equivalent | 16:32 |
| sevan | hramrach: nice. I remember the upgrades (x62?), they also did one for the x220. | 16:34 |
| vkoskiv | 2-3 years ago I purchased a replacement LCD for a 2005 Fujitsu LifeBook S2110. I even emailed the supplier in china to verify some very specific details about the panel, and they responded and helped ensure I got the right part! | 16:34 |
| vkoskiv | (That particular laptop has sentimental value to me, and I wanted to replace the broken LCD because of that) | 16:34 |
| sevan | I had the opposite experience with a uk based company who advertised x61 panels (I needed one for an x61s), blew some fuses on the motherboard. Had to find the documents for the panels to prove it was incompatible since they denied an issue. | 16:37 |
| hramrach | it very much depends on the reseller what kind of service they provide | 16:38 |
| hramrach | it helps if they are also a service center using the panels themselves but some pure resellers are also capable, and some service centers want to push you into also paying for the replacement | 16:40 |
| sevan | it's also an absolute pain replacing the panels on some of those things. I think for x62 upgrade panel that was linked here, it's an extremely tight fit. | 16:40 |
| sevan | these were the horrors of the past I was thinking of when I was putting my Reform together. | 16:41 |
| hramrach | it's not the original panel and does not fit without modifications | 16:41 |
| sevan | correct, but there's on modification to the top case where the panel is installed, right? | 16:42 |
| hramrach | and cable adapter | 16:43 |
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| sevan | I have a vague memory of ribbons being cut into strips to seperate out pins to allow for reconfiguration. but that might be on another model. | 16:52 |
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