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| bkeys | minute: I don't "need" it in the strictest sense. The biggest win I have with the cm4 is 8GB of RAM. I like running KDE and 4GB seems to get used up really quick | 04:12 |
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| jfred | 4GB RAM is my biggest issue with the a311d module too. It's pretty tight these days | 04:26 |
| josch | i have trouble finding workload that exhausts my ram | 06:18 |
| josch | it only imploded twice so far when i was compiling c++ projects without restricting parallelism | 06:19 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: would you be able to answer this? https://community.mnt.re/t/did-the-steel-port-cover-ever-get-trimmed/1839 | 10:01 |
| Twodisbetter | If you answer here I can share it to the forum if you want. | 10:01 |
| minute | jfred: bkeys: do you use swap? | 10:56 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: it has not been fixed yet unfortunately, but now that i am firmly aware of it, will fix it the next time i order these | 10:57 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: copy, I'll let the forum know. | 10:58 |
| hramrach | minute: does it have to be SDIO? If the SoC has more PCIe lanes than can be used in the Reform anyway there should be no problem with adding a PCIe WiFi module on the SoM. | 12:57 |
| hramrach | Also about the WiFi+BT it seems there is alwaays a different interface for the BT - SDIO+UART, PCIe+USB, ... | 12:58 |
| hramrach | That complicates things quite a bit | 13:00 |
| hramrach | There is also the pattern that while tiny WiFi modules do exist decent ones are huge, and need cooling | 13:05 |
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| minute | hramrach: pcie for wifi and usb for bt would be fine actually yeah | 13:37 |
| minute | laird is offering me IF573 | 13:37 |
| minute | hmm chipset is infineon CYW55573 | 13:39 |
| minute | uh oh > brcmfmac | 13:48 |
| hramrach | yes, randomly picked a module and landed on the same model - PCIe/SDIO for WiFi, UART for BT, 18x13mm | 13:50 |
| hramrach | did not manage to find what the chipset is from the datasheet, availability of modules with sane chipsets is generally a problem | 13:51 |
| hramrach | 18x13x2mm | 13:52 |
| minute | i meant, laird sales offered this to me in an email when i asked for a fitting module. i did a bit of digging and it looks like it's the infineon stuff is really (or previously?!) broadcom | 13:53 |
| hramrach | no idea about current day WiFi chisets | 13:54 |
| hramrach | broadcom has a business model of buying out IP so many thins are really broadcom | 13:55 |
| bkeys | minute: Yeah but as soon as you start swapping there goes any performance | 13:55 |
| minute | bkeys: really, on SSD? | 14:03 |
| minute | bkeys: in any case, thanks for explaining the situation. i'm not sure i can put more pressure on my colleagues here atm to make the display adapter available + shipping... we are backlogged with orders | 14:05 |
| jfred | minute: I do, though I think only another 4GB. Perhaps I should add more | 14:11 |
| jfred | josch: I'm running Guix which will sometimes try to compile software if there's no binary available, and if I'm not careful to close other applications when doing so I can exhaust my RAM that way. (It can offload builds to another machine though, I still have that Honeycomb board I've been meaning to set up as a build server...) | 14:14 |
| josch | jfred: that is very understandable. As I already mentioned above, the only times when i ran out of ram was when compiling stuff. | 14:17 |
| josch | we have similar problems in debian with 32 bit architectures | 14:17 |
| josch | compiling "modern" browsers requires more ram than some 32 bit arches have available | 14:17 |
| sevan | terrific vibes for black hardware in ikea storage units https://oldbytes.space/@fred/111818834431597596 :) | 14:23 |
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| jfred | Now I'm imagining a Reform Cube | 14:38 |
| [tj] | minute: has there been "enough" interest in the reform rack? | 14:39 |
| minute | [tj]: i think so... but some other things have priority before we can finish the design | 14:41 |
| [tj] | cool, I'm glad to hear there was. I'd like it to exist, but I'm not sure I'd ever have the need to buy one | 14:41 |
| minute | hmmm why do you want it to exist then? :D | 14:42 |
| [tj] | the m1 mac mini I have is an amazing device with such low idle power draw you can forget it exists. Open hardware in that space would be amazing, I just own too many computers already | 14:46 |
| [tj] | but I don't think I'm the only person that wants this sort of device to exist, especially because if you make it, it will be well supported in upstream and documented | 14:47 |
| [tj] | unlike *other vendors* | 14:47 |
| josch | minute: well, i'm excited about the rack reform because i have an extra mainboard for which i need a case so that i can put it into my living room :) | 14:53 |
| [tj] | that is a good point I hadn't thought of | 15:04 |
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| jfred | I don't actually need a Rack Reform but the picture of the front panel design you posted a while back looks so pretty... it's tempting 😆 | 15:37 |
| jfred | with what I think were red LEDs? | 15:37 |
| minute | jfred: so far yes | 15:38 |
| jfred | it somehow has both a modern and retro feel, I really like it | 15:38 |
| bkeys | minute: Alright, thank you none the less. Is it possible that I could place an order for another cm4 adapter, I put a note on it and they just partially refund me and only send the display adapter? | 15:57 |
| bkeys | And for some reason the a311d doesn't recognize my SSD but the cm4 does | 15:57 |
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| josch | minute: i now tried the four cards i tried with the old pcie adapter with the new one (which looks just like yours, see https://floss.social/@josch/111806240132102967 ) but the most i get is a framebuffer tty but starting sway or kmscube fails miserably... :( i'm not expecting any support, just wanted to give you some feedback for ls1028a+pcie-gpu | 17:36 |
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| josch | so essentially, the same results i had with the old adapter | 17:41 |
| josch | seeing the kicad screenshots really shows how large the rk3588 board is :D | 17:42 |
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