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| josch | minute: the handbook currently does not specify whether the motherboard should be connected to either batteries or wall power while flashing the firmware or whether the lpc gets powered via the usb connection -- could you clarify this so that i can document it in the flash.sh script? | 08:42 |
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| josch | it's also very funny to see the oled status screen jump from 0.3A power draw to 0A when plugging it in to -1.8A a few seconds later with your charge delay patch :) | 08:43 |
| josch | minute: so far, your patch fixes the situation for the two usb-pd adapters i own -- i'll let you know should i experience any irregularities | 08:44 |
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| josch | minute: okay, i now had my batteries drained a bit further and i now see (with both usb-pd adapters) a pattern where the status display would show the current changing from 0 A to 0.3 A and sometimes to -2.2 A but the latter never for long -- mostly alternating between 0 and 0.3 A | 09:35 |
| josch | i guess next thing to try for me would be a usb-pd adapter rated for more than 60 W and see what happens | 09:39 |
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| josch | on the plus side, since my last message, my battery only lost 2% according to oled while continously plugged in ;) | 10:30 |
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| minute | josch: well, the manual says you should remove the batteries when opening the device, so that leaves only wall power. but you don't have to follow that advice of course ^^ | 13:28 |
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| josch | minute: i'd like to write down the correct advice in the flash.sh script i have sitting as a MR right now, that's why I'm asking :) | 13:57 |
| josch | so the correct thing to do is: unplug batteries (because you are opening the case), then plug wall power, then plug the usb cable to flash? | 13:57 |
| + bhj78dsds (~bhbd2h2@dhcp-077-250-056-099.chello.nl) | 14:04 | |
| bhj78dsds | any1 has the pocket reform ??? | 14:04 |
| josch | bhj78dsds: it is still several weeks away from getting shipped to customers | 14:06 |
| josch | and there is no shipment date set yet | 14:06 |
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| sknebel | josch: well without power it doesn't work (had the same confusion when flashing recently, so tried that first ) , so wall power is needed | 14:16 |
| josch | sknebel: i also had it not working without power (wall or battery) but wanted to confirm that this is indeed the expected behaviour because theoretically the lpc could also be powered via usb | 14:19 |
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| jfred | Hmm, is the motherboard listing on the store just gone completely? | 19:03 |
| sknebel | jfred: https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-motherboard-25 ? | 19:13 |
| jfred | oh thanks - huh, how did I miss that | 19:14 |
| sknebel | you're right, it does not seem actually listed on any of the listing pages | 19:15 |
| sknebel | (I grabbed the url from browser autocomplete remembering it) | 19:15 |
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| minute | josch: it is correct, power line is not connected via lpc usb | 19:37 |
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| josch | minute: thank you! I adjusted my MR accordingly: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/merge_requests/45/diffs?diff_id=2533&start_sha=d40326932ed839c97665346564e0944f6da58e7b | 20:41 |
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| josch | erle: i think the unlink command from coreutils you recently recommended as a safe alternative to rm is nice but why can it take only a single argument and thus is limited to unlink a single file at a time? :( | 21:45 |
| erle | josch it simply mirrors unlink(2). also i consider that part of the safety. | 21:47 |
| erle | like you can't delete more than one file, even if you mess up some quoting/wildcards | 21:47 |
| josch | right, i thought its primary safety advantage was to avoid accidentally deleting directories (recursively) | 21:52 |
| pandora | minute what is the thickness of the pcb board for the pocket reform for the "backplate with the logo" ... kinda want to work on some custom alternatives :) | 21:55 |
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| minute | pandora: ohh nice. so it is 1.2mm thick | 22:17 |
| pandora | would it be an issue if that plate becomes a bit thicker? like 1.5mm? | 22:18 |
| pandora | is there anything it could collide with? | 22:18 |
| minute | pandora: do you mean in terms of components? | 22:18 |
| josch | the pocket mods begun they have! | 22:18 |
| minute | pandora: like, you want to mount components on it? | 22:18 |
| pandora | no i don't think so ... will just be a custom metal back plate i think | 22:20 |
| minute | pandora: you need to keep a few mm clearance around the edge of the inner side where it rests on the aluminum case, and there is normally a big plain copper square on the inside that acts as the heatsink for the cpu | 22:20 |
| pandora | but mounting components... hmmm :) i get some ideas | 22:20 |
| minute | pandora: if it's completely metal consider wifi connectivity | 22:20 |
| minute | you might need to get the wifi antenna to the outside then | 22:20 |
| pandora | good point | 22:21 |
| pandora | are CAD drawings already release? | 22:21 |
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| minute | pandora: let me see | 22:22 |
| minute | pandora: here is a collection of pretty up to date case plate PCBs at least https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/tree/d-3/case-plate-pcbs?ref_type=heads | 22:24 |
| minute | pandora: ah yeah, case files are here https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/tree/d-3/pocket-reform-case-20231121?ref_type=heads | 22:24 |
| minute | but there will be some minor updates to the case files soon, but it shouldn't concern your mod | 22:24 |
| minute | (we did some last minute tweaks of keyboard bezel countersunk diameter and the platform it's resting on was raised like 0.1/0.2mm or so) | 22:26 |
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| pandora | oh sweet - thanks a lot | 22:56 |
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| jfred | Just ordered a nearly complete set of Reform electronic parts... gonna try and come up with a desktop case for it :) | 23:06 |
| jfred | and reuse my original imx8mq module | 23:06 |
| josch | i did that for my ls1028a :) | 23:06 |
| josch | it's currently powered by an atx psu | 23:06 |
| josch | jfred: how are you solving the problem of turning it on? are you connecting it to a reform keyboard? | 23:07 |
| jfred | yeah, I ordered a caseless reform keyboard for it | 23:07 |
| jfred | I'd like to make it a retro-inspired all-in-one and build the keyboard right into the case, we'll see how far I get with that though haha | 23:07 |
| josch | oooh okay! | 23:08 |
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| minute | jfred: wow nice | 23:30 |
| minute | btw one could also modify the lpc firmware and connect a switch / button to the "hack the planet" port and use that for power control | 23:30 |
| jn | nice and cheap trick: you can get a keyboard computer by removing the screen from a laptop :^) | 23:31 |
| jfred | minute: Yeah, if I were putting a different keyboard into this thing I might do something like that. I don't need to add to the scope of this project though XD | 23:32 |
| minute | sure :D | 23:32 |
| minute | obviously i'm all pro mnt reform keyboard | 23:33 |
| jfred | :P | 23:33 |
| josch | speaking of keyboards, i just managed to get 50 kailh choc brown low profile switches from ebay for 2,70 EUR (I want to change my trackball 2.0 switches and some of my keyboard 1.0 switches) -- i have some leftovers... anybody needs some? :) | 23:35 |
| minute | josch: huh, that's extremely cheap | 23:53 |
| josch | maybe it's a fraud but for 2,7 i'm willing to take the risk :) | 23:54 |
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