| josch | i found a 65 W usb-c PD power supply which is able to charge my reform | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| josch | both 60 W supplies fail | 00:11 |
| - XYZ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~XYZ@78-80-26-245.customers.tmcz.cz) | 00:13 | |
| Twodisbetter | josch: with the IMX | 00:14 |
| Twodisbetter | But I guess you are swapping over now, so too late to know. | 00:14 |
| Twodisbetter | No worries. | 00:14 |
| AbortRetryFail | It's probably spiking just above 3A on 20V and tripping the 60W chargers' over-current protection | 00:15 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: the problem is that i only have very few hours per day of spare time because KiTa is closed and i have my daughter at home. So i have to reduce my hobby projects a bit. :) | 00:15 |
| josch | AbortRetryFail: yes, i put it back on the non-working adapter after charging it fully and still fails | 00:16 |
| AbortRetryFail | Glad its not just me. If/when I get around to putting a capacitor on mine to see if soft-start helps I'll let you know. | 00:17 |
| josch | AbortRetryFail: i just got the adapter to work that didn't work before | 00:22 |
| josch | charged until full and then quickly switched cables | 00:22 |
| josch | the orange light is now steady on instead of blinking | 00:23 |
| + XYZ (~XYZ@78-80-26-245.customers.tmcz.cz) | 00:31 | |
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| + reform32451 (~sam@210.205.160.108.in-addr.arpa) | 03:33 | |
| reform32451 | exit | 03:33 |
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| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~nicolas@79-121-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 03:48 | |
| + nsc (~nicolas@15-49-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 03:50 | |
| josch | anybody ever seen these rendering issues with firefox on a311d? https://mister-muffin.de/p/woC9.png | 08:09 |
| josch | essentially, the wallpaper shows on the website. This happens quite a few times. | 08:10 |
| josch | and it shows up in screenshots apparently :) | 08:10 |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 08:12 | |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 08:13 | |
| - Twodisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 10:11 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mjw@dhcp-089-098-125-253.chello.nl) | 10:56 | |
| minute | josch: interesting. i haven't seen this so far! | 11:04 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 11:12 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 11:12 | |
| josch | minute: maybe because i'm on mesa from Debian stable and some patches from unstable are missing? | 11:21 |
| + ckeen (~ckeen@2001:67c:20a1:1010:db1:1c4f:a839:7bea) | 11:34 | |
| ckeen | hi there! | 11:34 |
| ckeen | I have observed that after leaving on my unit for a day and having wl-idle switching off the screen, that the reform becomes unresponsive, after doing a soft reset via circle r, the ssd is not found until I do a full powercycle. | 11:38 |
| ckeen | could this be a heat issue? | 11:38 |
| ckeen | And another question: Is there a keyboard fw for the reform2 that allows drawing to the oled directly? | 12:02 |
| + f_[xmpp] (fffdb90022@fases/developer/funderscore) | 12:17 | |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 12:28 | |
| - klardotsh (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~klardotsh@c-67-170-115-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 12:40 | |
| minute | ckeen: which cpu module? does wl-idle put the laptop into suspend or does it turn off the screen via dpms? the latter is known to make problems. | 12:48 |
| minute | ckeen: on ls1028a and a311d, there is no suspend | 12:49 |
| minute | ckeen: and yes, with the existing keyboard fw you can draw to the OLED | 12:49 |
| minute | ckeen: check this out https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/tree/master/reform2-keyboard-fw/kbdgfx-demo?ref_type=heads | 12:50 |
| ckeen | minute: the imx.8 one | 13:26 |
| ckeen | sorry it's swayidle and it will issue dpms off and swaylock | 13:27 |
| + eibachd (~eibachd@2a01:599:710:36aa:622b:3f4:5474:cf8c) | 13:39 | |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 13:41 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-68-142-56-15.greenmountainaccess.net) | 13:42 | |
| ckeen | minute: ah thanks I have updated the fw and the demo works! | 13:55 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-68-142-56-15.greenmountainaccess.net) | 14:17 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 14:18 | |
| josch | ckeen: you probably execute something like this via swayidle? swaymsg "output * dpms off" | 14:23 |
| josch | ckeen: if yes, replace that with "brightnessctl set 0" | 14:24 |
| josch | and conversely with "brightnessctl set 7" when coming back | 14:24 |
| josch | you can also tell brightnessctl to store and restore the current brightness using --save and --restore | 14:24 |
| josch | but indeed using any dpms on/off will lock up your device after some time idling :( | 14:24 |
| josch | nobody knows why | 14:25 |
| Twodisbetter | so I asked a while back but not that long ago about someone getting Project Zombiod working on the Reform. On second thought, I remembered that the games AI is computational intense and it even makes my desktop 5950x heat up. So I don't think it is realistic being able to play it on the Reform. Not that there is a shortage of game to play with on the Reform. | 14:35 |
| + mjw (~mjw@89.205.130.184) | 14:38 | |
| AbortRetryFail | I'm surprised by how well Box64 works | 14:49 |
| josch | it constantly breaks for me XD | 14:49 |
| josch | let me try out some of the games again now on a311d | 14:50 |
| josch | nope | 14:51 |
| AbortRetryFail | oh sure, but the fact that it runs reliable and fast enough to play games at all | 14:51 |
| AbortRetryFail | that's what I'm surprised by | 14:52 |
| josch | oh yes, that is super, super impressive! | 14:52 |
| josch | its developer is also very committed and extremely quick with replying to requests for help on the github issue tracker | 14:53 |
| AbortRetryFail | I do wish the work needed to add a new library shim to it was better documented. | 14:54 |
| josch | the codebase is admittedly a tad messy XD | 14:54 |
| AbortRetryFail | shim... wrapper? I forget the exact term | 14:54 |
| josch | it's extremely tedious work because you always play catch up with any library upgrade adding new symbols to the *.so | 14:56 |
| - eibachd (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~eibachd@2a01:599:710:36aa:622b:3f4:5474:cf8c) | 14:58 | |
| + eibachd (~eibachd@ip-185-104-138-67.ptr.icomera.net) | 14:58 | |
| AbortRetryFail | How often do things like SDL and GTK make API-breaking changes? | 14:58 |
| josch | AbortRetryFail: i think the problem is the sheer number of libraries supported | 14:59 |
| AbortRetryFail | Yeah, I wonder how much of it can be automated. | 15:00 |
| josch | it's currently around 200 libs | 15:00 |
| josch | read about through src/wrapped/*.c -- i don't see how to automate that work | 15:01 |
| josch | s/about/a bit/ | 15:01 |
| AbortRetryFail | Yeah, I dug in to it a bit but I couldn't figure out how it works. Then I did a git pull and rebuilt it and my problem was solved so I stopped caring. | 15:01 |
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| + eibachd (~eibachd@ip-185-104-138-67.ptr.icomera.net) | 15:05 | |
| ckeen | josch: interesting! | 15:06 |
| ckeen | josch: are you at congress this year? | 15:07 |
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| sevan | https://chaos.social/@morph/111664201458516629 | 15:49 |
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| + anzu (~anzu@melkki.cs.helsinki.fi) | 15:52 | |
| josch | hahaha that is hilarious :D | 15:53 |
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| sevan | that homemade cyberdeck looks sweet. If only the image was higher res to be able to zoom in! :) | 16:06 |
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| ckeen | writing to the display is fun, has anyone made some things out of that yet? | 16:26 |
| ckeen | . | 16:28 |
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| AbortRetryFail | people have posted on mastodon and the forums with stuff they've made. | 16:38 |
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| ckeen | Oh, and I am using a 'AKYGA Plug for Universal Notebook Adapter AK-ND-C01 USB-C / 5.5 x 2.5 mm' and a usb-C powersupply for a while now to power the reform | 16:54 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:54 | |
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| AbortRetryFail | what USB-C charger are you using? That's just an adapter. | 17:14 |
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| josch | okay, so while usb-c adapters that worked fine with motherboard 2.0 fail with motherboard 2.5, my trusted external lifepo4 powerbank happily charges the reform reliably via its 12V output :) | 18:13 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:24 | |
| AbortRetryFail | Its probably rated for waay more current than the Reform will ever pull. | 19:25 |
| josch | yes | 19:26 |
| josch | 15 A :D | 19:26 |
| AbortRetryFail | I've charged mine off my 14V Bioenno ham radio battery and it works great. | 19:27 |
| AbortRetryFail | likewise the DC power supply for the radio stuff. | 19:27 |
| AbortRetryFail | I usually do that since i had grounding issues with the Mean Well brick that came with it. | 19:27 |
| josch | i think i understand the appeal of usb-c pd charging and maybe i'm too oldschool but i really like how i'm able to just put attach some DC power source to the power jack and i'm good to go | 19:29 |
| josch | ACTION had too much trouble with usb-c so far XD | 19:29 |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 19:30 | |
| josch | minute: also, did is the 5521 barrel jack of mainboard 2.5 different from 2.0? Cables now sit quite a bit tighter but not too tight. It's a great improvement I think. Cables that were prone to falling out before are now firmly attached. | 19:31 |
| hramrach | thre is a capacitor or something in the meanwell bridge, changing it to a jumper fixes the grounding | 19:31 |
| hramrach | maybe it wore down over time, that happens to connectors | 19:32 |
| AbortRetryFail | I saw that thread. I haven't opened mine up to see. | 19:33 |
| hramrach | the thing is that some people have a lot of power suppllies, and then just pluggin in a power supply is great | 19:36 |
| hramrach | USB PD caters to people who want One Brick to Rule Them All because they do not have a box of power supplies, and maybe we are gettign to the point when it's mostly working | 19:37 |
| AbortRetryFail | I like the wide range DC input the Reform has, since it lends itself well to improvisation | 19:39 |
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| Aard | hramrach: I nowadaays typically travel with two power bricks, each with 2 USB-C outputs and 2+ USB-A - that's the complete family device zoo handled. old devices like my x230 thinkpad I've converted to USB-C | 20:00 |
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| josch | lol problem solved | 20:39 |
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| josch | plugging the usb-c cable directly into the reform fails to charge the reform | 20:40 |
| josch | solution: plug the power bank into usb-c and then put 12V from the powerbank into the reform XD | 20:40 |
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| ckeen | also nice | 21:42 |
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