| violet | minute: ok ive updated the firmware and it still doesnt show up | 00:22 |
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| violet | got an error though https://dpaste.com/EWFFA6ZJ3 ! | 00:22 |
| violet | its weird to me that its having USB troubles in the trackball mode but connects up just fine in dfu programming mode lol | 00:22 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:25 | |
| josch | those dmesg entries happen for me when i botched some of the usb cable wires -- but could be several other reasons as well | 00:25 |
| violet | .... wait a minute | 00:25 |
| violet | i just flashed the *trackpad* firmware to my trackball | 00:26 |
| violet | lemme try again | 00:26 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:27 | |
| violet | OK there we go | 00:27 |
| violet | fixed hahahahaha | 00:27 |
| josch | \o/ | 00:27 |
| - Twodisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 00:29 | |
| violet | on the cm4 adapter are the "pi bus" UART pins wired up to the hack the planet UART? | 00:42 |
| violet | or somewhere else | 00:42 |
| violet | oh wait i found another 2 sets of 3 pins its probably one of these huh | 00:42 |
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| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 00:50 | |
| violet | ah found it | 00:56 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 01:05 | |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 01:05 | |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 08:35 | |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 08:36 | |
| violet | you weren't kidding. dsi is hard | 10:18 |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 10:21 | |
| violet | is 1920x1080 @ 70.040Hz correct for the internal display mode? 70Hz feels weird enough that i feel like i should double check | 10:32 |
| violet | but i dont want to swap back in my imx module so i dont have to redo the dsi cable. time to get a 2nd reform clearly haha | 10:33 |
| violet | i have gotten to the point of successfully reading edid data thru the eDP bridge chip though so that's pretty cool! | 10:34 |
| violet | and drm knows im telling it about this internal display so sway sees it. just no pixel data on it | 10:35 |
| violet | also it turns out the soquartz doesn't have a single hardware PWM that you can map to the backlight pwm pin so i might have to do software pwm for that | 10:36 |
| violet | right now im just setting it to full bright | 10:36 |
| Twodisbetter | violet: how is the Tangara going? Still on track for the crowdfunding launch? | 10:43 |
| violet | o.o maybe yuo have me confused with someone else, i have not heard about this project. looks cool though! | 10:54 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: Tangara is jacqueline's project | 10:56 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~murdock@067-255-002-073.res.spectrum.com) | 11:31 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@067-255-002-073.res.spectrum.com) | 11:31 | |
| minute | violet: sounds like you are very far already, cool! for the timings, it can be tricky. i would suggest to enable colorbars in the ti sn65dsi86 driver first (there is a register for it, you can poke it before "enable video stream" or sth) | 11:57 |
| minute | violet: if colorbars show up on display, then the dsi refclk and modeline is correct | 11:58 |
| minute | violet: https://community.mnt.re/t/u-boot-and-internal-screen/295/10 | 12:00 |
| minute | violet: register 0x3c, value 0x10 | 12:00 |
| hramrach | we could get rainbow like Pi does \o/ | 12:29 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: violet: absolutely right, my apologies! | 13:08 |
| - Twodisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 13:38 | |
| + f_[xmpp] (fffdb90022@fases/developer/funderscore) | 13:42 | |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 13:42 | |
| josch | minute: the reform mainboard 2.5 comes without an instruction/installation manual? | 14:01 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~murdock@067-255-002-073.res.spectrum.com) | 14:31 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@067-255-002-073.res.spectrum.com) | 14:31 | |
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| + murdock (~murdock@067-255-002-073.res.spectrum.com) | 14:49 | |
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| + murdock (~murdock@2600:380:5926:f222:b580:322:5259:ef4e) | 15:02 | |
| minute | josch: it wasn't ready yet, but we thought you needed it rather quickly | 15:16 |
| - f_[xmpp] (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (fffdb90022@fases/developer/funderscore) | 15:25 | |
| bluerise | violet: you're using the soquartz cm4 io u-boot? | 15:25 |
| - vkoskiv (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~vkoskiv@87-100-167-110.bb.dnainternet.fi) | 15:29 | |
| + vkoskiv (~vkoskiv@87-100-167-110.bb.dnainternet.fi) | 15:31 | |
| josch | minute: uh then that decision was very thoughtful! thank you! it's indeed better this way for me :) | 15:39 |
| josch | and well, "need" :D of course quicker is better but having a secont reform is of course just luxery :D | 15:40 |
| josch | *second | 15:40 |
| AbortRetryFail | violet: 70hz isn't that unusual of a refresh rate. It used to be fairly common on CRT monitors. | 15:56 |
| josch | huh interesting -- i then wonder why the foss games i tried seem to lock their fps at around 50 and not 70? | 15:57 |
| minute | on imx8mq i downclocked the mipi so it's more like 50hz | 15:59 |
| josch | ah :) | 15:59 |
| - Twodisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 15:59 | |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 16:01 | |
| AbortRetryFail | josch: idk, PAL C=64 heritage? :D | 16:10 |
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| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 16:14 | |
| sevan | josch: what keyboard layout is that in your photo? | 16:29 |
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| + bluerise (~bluerise@user/bluerise) | 16:30 | |
| josch | sevan: Neo | 16:34 |
| sevan | nice, not heard of it before. | 16:34 |
| - Twodisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 16:39 | |
| + Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com) | 16:41 | |
| josch | minute: why does the a311d box contain an extra antenna -- should/can the existing antenna not be reused? | 16:41 |
| josch | follow-up question: would my Laird antenna work with it and if yes, would it be better or worse compared to the molex antenna? | 16:43 |
| + murphnj (~murph@ool-457bb02e.dyn.optonline.net) | 16:51 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-68-4-224.home.otenet.gr) | 17:19 | |
| mhoye | Question - has anyone investigated the LPM4A SOMs for reform compatibility? | 17:25 |
| josch | okay, probably last message from my (comparatively) old and trusted imx8mq... | 17:26 |
| josch | you have served me well | 17:26 |
| Twodisbetter | josch: I believe your imx8mq has been used mostly likely the most out of all the other ones out there in Reforms. | 17:33 |
| Twodisbetter | It has served you well indeed. | 17:33 |
| vkoskiv | WiFi on A311D seems solid after that powersave config change, probably safe to put that in the system image, right? | 17:50 |
| + reform939 (~josch@win7148.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de) | 17:52 | |
| reform939 | hello again from ls1028a | 17:54 |
| reform939 | vkoskiv: i'd be interested in finding out why that change is needed in the first place -- it sounds more like a workaround | 17:54 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah | 17:55 |
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| + reform14303 (~josch@win7148.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de) | 18:23 | |
| reform14303 | okay, a311d is in... now migrating my existing system... | 18:26 |
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| josch | holy canoly | 19:12 |
| josch | it worked!! \o/ | 19:12 |
| josch | wow... 1080p@60 and the cpu isn't even half busy | 19:14 |
| josch | so this is how source.mnt.re feels like for normal people | 19:16 |
| josch | minute: this is phantastic! \o/ | 19:16 |
| josch | well, you write that with an F, but meh XD | 19:17 |
| josch | notes on how i converted from imx8mq to a311d here: https://mister-muffin.de/p/H1Es.txt | 19:21 |
| josch | i'll clean those up tonight after dinner and post to the forum :) | 19:22 |
| AbortRetryFail | Has the a311d got enough juice to run Switch games with Yuzu? :) | 19:23 |
| josch | AbortRetryFail: apparently dolphin works alright: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/111635971307300704 | 19:25 |
| josch | and this: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/111636125410089293 | 19:26 |
| josch | holy cow, tabs load nearly instantly now! | 19:26 |
| josch | twitch is suddenly usable in the browser | 19:28 |
| josch | and this kids is how i became a snob as well who doesn't mind stupid wastefully slow javascript | 19:28 |
| josch | minute: one thing that wasn't 100% clear to me in the a311d installation instructions was the sentence "remove protective foil from the thermal pad". This sentence means *both* foils, right? The protective foil is different on each side and I removed both but wasn't 100% sure whether that was the right thing to do. Maybe that sentence could be explicit about removing *both* types of foils or say to | 19:38 |
| josch | remove the foil from *both* sides of the pad? I ran into the same uncertainty with my ls1028a. | 19:39 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 19:40 | |
| unixpoet | josch: I tried setting up a desktop on a rockpro64 a few months ago and my goodness the powerful machines I use every day really have made me lose touch with how heavy the web has gotten | 19:50 |
| josch | minute: with my new mainboard 2.5 when i plug in my usb-c to 20v adapter, i have the orange light blinking -- what does that mean? it does not seem to charge | 20:15 |
| - nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~nicolas@79-121-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 20:15 | |
| minute | josch: hmm the board probably pulls to much current | 20:19 |
| josch | same effect with my other adapter | 20:19 |
| josch | indeed i'm currently compiling linux with -j$(nproc) | 20:19 |
| josch | oled says it's drawing 0.52A from the batteries | 20:20 |
| + nsc (~nicolas@79-121-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 20:21 | |
| AbortRetryFail | sounds like what mine does when charging off a 20v USB-C trigger cable. | 20:21 |
| AbortRetryFail | I still need to try limiting the charging current | 20:22 |
| + sundog20623 (~sundog@reclaim.technology) | 20:32 | |
| - sundog2062 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~sundog@reclaim.technology) | 20:36 | |
| * sundog20623 -> sundog2062 | 20:36 | |
| Twodisbetter | josch: the big question is does suspend work for you now? | 20:49 |
| _nrb_ | assembly at 37c3 looks kind of empty right now, someone going to be there in the next 10-15 mins? | 21:01 |
| josch | minute: now draws 0.25A according to oled but still does not charge off the usb-c adapter :( | 21:21 |
| josch | Twodisbetter: with imx8mq or with a311d? | 21:22 |
| AbortRetryFail | josch: I think that current measurement is on the 28V side of the charge controller, and doesn't account for losses/inefficiency | 21:28 |
| AbortRetryFail | tbh, watts is a more useful measure to have there anyway. | 21:29 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 21:41 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@2600:380:bd75:2ca8:75f0:85a4:b3db:9b29) | 21:41 | |
| vagrantc | josch: i had the same issue with a similar usb-c to 20v adapter ... never debugged it much | 21:42 |
| vagrantc | everything claimed to be rated for sufficient current ... i've never seen the mnt/reform draw more than 60 watts which would be 20v@3amp | 21:43 |
| vagrantc | think the adapter was rated for 5amps@20v | 21:44 |
| vagrantc | although maybe i am misremembering | 21:44 |
| vagrantc | the charger was definitely 5amp@20v (or another that was 4.2@20v) | 21:44 |
| vagrantc | and usually the mnt/reform draws more like 45watts, which would be even less | 21:45 |
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| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 22:03 | |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 22:16 | |
| josch | vagrantc: in my case i have two usb-c AC adapters which are both rated for 60 W and i have two different usb-c PD to 20V adapters -- the problem happens with both AC adapters and both 20 V PD converters in either combination | 22:18 |
| + murdock (~murdock@2600:380:bd75:2ca8:75f0:85a4:b3db:9b29) | 22:25 | |
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| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-68-142-56-15.greenmountainaccess.net) | 22:33 | |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 22:38 | |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 22:55 | |
| AbortRetryFail | vagrantc: I've definitely seen mine pull 65W+ while charging and powered on. | 22:55 |
| hramrach | I found some old HP adapters that give something like 65W/19v and 120W/19V, and they work perfectly fine when not feeling like debugging USB PD | 23:01 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-68-142-56-15.greenmountainaccess.net) | 23:02 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@2600:380:bd75:2ca8:75f0:85a4:b3db:9b29) | 23:03 | |
| - murdock (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~murdock@2600:380:bd75:2ca8:75f0:85a4:b3db:9b29) | 23:05 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 23:05 | |
| hramrach | Anybody knows a usavle locale-free atof implementation? Or a place where people would know? | 23:07 |
| hramrach | there is gdtoa which kind of is the thing but does not really pass for usable | 23:09 |
| - murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 23:12 | |
| + murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net) | 23:13 | |
| josch | okay, according to oled it draws 2.3 A at 28.7 V and that's more than 60 W -- no surprise i guess? | 23:25 |
| sigrid | hramrach: http://git.9front.org/plan9front/drawterm/HEAD/libc/strtod.c/raw | 23:29 |
| vagrantc | huh. never seen mine draw anywhere near that much | 23:31 |
| josch | vagrantc: do you have mainboard 2.5? | 23:35 |
| vagrantc | mine is from the initial crowdsupply batches ... | 23:37 |
| vagrantc | i don't know what revision it is | 23:38 |
| josch | vagrantc: today i swapped mainboard 2.0 for 2.5 and that's when the problems started | 23:39 |
| josch | vagrantc: your mainboard revision is printed on the badge that is partially hidden by your nvme ssd | 23:40 |
| josch | but you probably have 2.0 which also never had problems with my 60 W usb pd adapters | 23:41 |
| AbortRetryFail | josch: did your 2.0 motherboard have the resistor bodge? | 23:44 |
| josch | AbortRetryFail: it was the fixed 2.0, yes | 23:44 |
| AbortRetryFail | Mine is 2.0, has the resistor bodge, and exhibits the same problem you're having w/USB-C | 23:45 |
| vkoskiv | I've never seen current draw over ~0.4xxA on my A311D unit with the original mainboard | 23:47 |
| vkoskiv | (At ~28V) | 23:47 |
| AbortRetryFail | I'm not sure what the effect of having the RNG/SS lead floating like that is on initial charge current. I wanted to try putting a capacitor on that to ground for a "soft start" like it says in the datasheet | 23:47 |
| vkoskiv | While charging, it usually starts at 1.45A, and works its way down from there as it approaches 100% | 23:47 |
| hramrach | sigrid: that looks good, thanks | 23:49 |
| AbortRetryFail | vkoskiv: I've seen my Reform pull almost 70W (13.8V 5A) charging half-dead batteries while powered on. | 23:49 |
| vkoskiv | I haven't measured the current going in, mind you, I just observe the current on the OLED | 23:49 |
| AbortRetryFail | Right, that's usually lower. | 23:50 |
| vkoskiv | Are buck/boost converters less efficient when running at a lower than optimal voltage, perhaps? | 23:50 |
| AbortRetryFail | Sure they are | 23:50 |
| hramrach | everything is less efficient when not optimal ;-) | 23:51 |
| vkoskiv | Overall, my machine is very calm heat-wise. The only situation where things can get spicy is when I accidentally leave it turned on in my bag while charging. | 23:51 |
| josch | a311d sits at 44°C -- is the temperature reading broken or is it really that much colder than imx8mq? | 23:57 |
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