| f_ | minute: what's this? | 00:18 |
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| f_ | Ah ok | 00:19 |
| f_ | I'd suggest "Reform Light" for the name TBH. | 00:19 |
| - vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 00:23 | |
| minute | Twodisbetter: it will share a lot of tech with reform and pocket. it will be rk3588 by default (maybe a311d for a lower cost model) | 00:41 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: nice! | 00:42 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: it will be trackpad only and emphasize usb-c incl charging. it will still have 18650s | 00:42 |
| minute | it's a bit of a hybrid of pocket and reform | 00:42 |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 00:46 | |
| Twodisbetter | minute: weil the batteries be a flat pack similar to what the pocket will use? | 01:14 |
| Twodisbetter | minute: will the batteries be a flat pack similar to what the pocket will use? | 01:14 |
| minute | Twodisbetter: 18650s | 01:30 |
| minute | same as reform | 01:30 |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 03:25 | |
| jfred | Oh, still having 18650s is impressive and surprising in that form factor! | 03:35 |
| jfred | Looks very cool | 03:35 |
| jfred | I like that it's getting physical buttons on the trackpad too, in my experience the most usable trackpads I've used have had them | 03:37 |
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| Twodisbetter | minute: very nice indeed! So basically no compromises in comparison to the Reform and only improvements. Solid win! | 08:13 |
| violet | having a hard time getting display cable into the cm4 module | 08:30 |
| violet | the back of the falt part of the cable is like, pushing up against a capacitor | 08:31 |
| violet | ok i think i got it by just jamming it more | 08:32 |
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| + jagtalon (~quassel@user/jagtalon) | 08:59 | |
| violet | https://tenforward.social/@artemis/111651313036967158 soquartz works without much fight | 08:59 |
| violet | i need to do the device tree for the display i think | 09:00 |
| violet | i took my existing quartz64 (SBC, not a module) sd image i already had set up running linux 6.1. Added the generic soquartz cm4 dtb from 6.6.8 (because the earlier one was missing some stuff). plonked it in. there it is | 09:02 |
| violet | for some reason running the actual 6.6.8 kernel causes it to fail to boot. but thats a separate adventure that im debugging on the blade carrier for it, its not reform related at all | 09:03 |
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| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a1b:bb00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 09:15 | |
| violet | oh neat, i think the onboard wifi is working | 09:19 |
| minute | violet: awesome! | 09:19 |
| violet | oh ok soft shutdown is also not going all the way | 09:21 |
| violet | the 5v and 3v3 white LEDs are still lit after a `poweroff` command | 09:21 |
| minute | violet: there are 2 ways of how this is done, traditionally we have a script/shutdown hook for systemd that sends the poweroff command to the keyboard via usb raw hid | 09:31 |
| minute | and there's a newer way of using the reform2_lpc kernel driver if i'm not mistaken | 09:32 |
| violet | ah cool | 09:32 |
| violet | i will track down the raw hid then | 09:33 |
| violet | i think i want to get the display working before i get to the lpc driver | 09:33 |
| violet | because then i can use it in bed :D | 09:33 |
| violet | i should buy more of these display cables i am pretty sure i am gonna break mine eventually | 09:35 |
| violet | (i am not very good at ribbon cables) | 09:35 |
| violet | whoaaa i just realized the cm4 adapter instructions unfold into a schematic this is awesome | 09:37 |
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| violet | heatsink fits on great. lets see if it thermal throttles :D | 09:42 |
| minute | violet: mipi-dsi can be tricky, i hope you'll get it working | 09:53 |
| violet | trackball isnt working for some reason | 09:56 |
| violet | no libinput events from it or its buttons | 09:56 |
| violet | wonder if i messed up a wire | 09:56 |
| minute | violet: but it gets detected correctly? | 09:57 |
| minute | maybe it has older firmware? | 09:57 |
| violet | idk, what does it show up as? | 09:57 |
| minute | mnt reform trackball in lsusb -v | 09:57 |
| minute | does it habe brown or clicky white buttons? | 09:57 |
| violet | brown | 09:58 |
| violet | and no it doesnt show up in lsusb, only the keyboard does | 09:58 |
| minute | ok so older model. i would say update fw | 09:58 |
| minute | if you switch to programming mode (dip sw on trackball and then reset button on trackball), does it show up? | 09:58 |
| minute | as atmel dfu loader | 09:58 |
| violet | yup | 10:00 |
| violet | oh also for some reason my nvme drive is not showing up right. pcie is working right i know though because the atheros wifi was showing up in lspci before i took it out to put the nvme in with the miniPCIe adapter | 10:02 |
| minute | violet: could be pcie reset issue. what nvme brand? do you have another nvme to try? | 10:06 |
| violet | its optane | 10:10 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a1b:bb00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 10:11 | |
| violet | which does work fine with it in the blade carrier | 10:11 |
| violet | but yeah i can try another drive | 10:11 |
| violet | later though. i am starting an install of the avr toolchain and going to sleep. tomorrow ill update the trackball firmware and see if that fixes things there | 10:12 |
| violet | oh wow the soquartz dtsi has stubs for all the i2c/i2s/spi , with comments for which module pins they are! | 10:18 |
| minute | oh @ optane | 10:29 |
| minute | etnaviv blog post: https://christian-gmeiner.info/2022-12-26-end-of-year/ | 10:29 |
| minute | violet: good night! | 10:29 |
| bluerise | minute: do you have an assembly? | 11:17 |
| minute | bluerise: yes | 12:50 |
| minute | https://events.ccc.de/congress/2023/hub/en/assembly/mnt-research/ | 12:51 |
| minute | https://37c3.c3nav.de/l/mnt-research/@0,131.58,118.33,5 | 12:51 |
| josch | UPS tries to be difficult yet again... tracking says that it's already in the local facility but will only be delivered tomorrow. Fair enough. But there is a button that says i can pick up the parcel personally today! I click the button but get an error message. So I just bike to the local UPS facility and ask about the shipment. They tell me that it's in the delivery vehicle and will be delivered | 13:07 |
| josch | today. Okay, so i bike home and check tracking again. Indeed it says that it will arrive between 8:20 and 10:20. At 11:30 there is still no sight of it, so I leave the house for a bit. I come back at 12:00 and have a UPS slip about a failed delivery attempt in my postbox... sigh... | 13:07 |
| minute | ooooof | 13:15 |
| josch | classic :) UPS never works out for me it seems XD | 13:22 |
| sknebel | My local ups people always just put the thing in a pickup store location at the beginning of their shift... Which is really not the point of a delivery service, but at least it means I can pick it up quickly đŸ™„ | 14:12 |
| q66 | minute: so where is the assembly actually supposed to be then | 14:32 |
| q66 | i tried looking for y'all a bit but didn't find you :P | 14:32 |
| jagtalon | hi all! i'm considering getting a reform, but i'm curious if waydroid is able to run on it? have people here had success with it? | 15:36 |
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| josch | jagtalon: i had it "running" but the application i wanted to run on it didn't work | 15:52 |
| josch | jagtalon: but i had it show the main screen and stuff | 15:52 |
| + XYZ (~XYZ@78-80-113-209.customers.tmcz.cz) | 15:52 | |
| josch | jagtalon: are you running waydroid on another platform already? | 15:52 |
| jagtalon | josch: ah nice! yea i have it running on amd64 fedora and it works so well that i'm hoping it would work well on the mnt too | 15:57 |
| bluerise | minute: the assembly is nicely quiet so far ;) | 15:57 |
| josch | jagtalon: what processor will the reform of your choice have? | 16:23 |
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| + murdock (~murdock@2600:380:8e55:9fed:48e0:c464:c6b1:8566) | 16:44 | |
| jagtalon | josch: i.MX8M Plus (the pocket one!) | 16:47 |
| josch | uh unteresting! i haven't heard of somebody using the big reform with the imx8mplus yet :D | 16:47 |
| josch | the imx8mq is a bit on the slower side, so it always took a few seconds of waiting with wayland until things happened | 16:48 |
| jagtalon | josch: oh sorry for the misunderstanding i'm planning on getting the pocket! | 16:48 |
| josch | oooooh | 16:48 |
| josch | well, what i said should still apply :) | 16:48 |
| jagtalon | josch: nice ok i guess i'll just have to see for myself haha. i don't *need* waydroid but it's nice to have familiar apps accessible on there | 16:49 |
| jagtalon | especially on that device! đŸ¤© | 16:50 |
| josch | i'm sure there exist quite a few android apps that would make sense to have on a small mobile device like the pocket reform :) | 16:50 |
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| josch | "Unable to deliver to UPS Access Pointâ„¢; will reattempt delivery to UPS Access Pointâ„¢ the next business day" | 17:31 |
| josch | looking at it from a positive angle, of all my six MNT orders, never did the same thing happen :D | 17:32 |
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| hramrach | tried to fix up the lm-sensors JSON output, and got something that looks usable. Now I suppose I do not need to fix up the language bindings because I can use the JSON. | 18:26 |
| hramrach | now to mek some temperature plots | 18:27 |
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| q66 | minute: i have scoured the place and mysteriously i cannot find the assembly at all | 19:16 |
| Twodisbetter | does anyone know of a 3d print shop that does professional printing? I am printing something but because of the size of my printer having to glue parts together and it sucks. I am wondering if there any print farms in Germany that are good and have a fast turn around? | 19:24 |
| josch | q66: Lukas posted 2 minutes ago that they are at the hotel: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/111653781038568601 | 19:28 |
| q66 | josch: ahh, so it's not set up yet at all | 19:30 |
| q66 | i thought I was crazy :) | 19:30 |
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| hramrach | Twodisbetter: something like this? https://www.shapeways.com/about | 20:59 |
| hramrach | but it would be expensive for big parts, probably not good for the purpose | 21:01 |
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