2023-12-20.log

+ khm (~kfx@wopr.sciops.net)00:47
khmhi folks, I just got the caseless keyboard 3.0 and I'm having trouble getting it working.  the oled powers up, but it's acting like a standalone keyboard and not talking to the lpc, regardless of which position of SW3600:48
minutekhm: hi, we had exactly this case here already! sorry for the trouble, but the keyboard ships with standalone firmware. you have to flash the non-standalone fw first.00:50
- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)00:50
minutekhm: sorry that this is not better documented. we just flash all keyboards with standalone fw because we don't know what people want to do with them00:51
minutekhm: the switch allows the keyboard to be powered by usb-c, so it makes flashing easier. 00:51
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)00:51
minute(outside of reform)00:51
- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a09:c300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)00:52
khmminute: that's what I figured from the schematic.  I'll get to flashing; thanks for the tip00:59
minutekhm: there's now a script flash-direct.sh in case you don't want the interactive guidance01:04
khmgot it flashed.  now reassembling01:20
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- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)01:23
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)01:24
- cwebber (QUIT: Quit: crossing the threshold of Lugonu's domain) (~Christine@user/cwebber)01:25
+ cwebber (~Christine@user/cwebber)01:26
khmvictory!  thanks again01:28
- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)01:29
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)01:31
minutekhm: great!01:46
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)02:00
+ sl (~sl@vpn.inri.net)02:27
slhello02:27
sli received my v3 keyboard today and installed it in my reform. i believe i set the dio switch correctly, but in the oled menu i don't see the 0 and 1 options for turning the machine off and on02:28
sli only see the oled brightness controls02:29
slcircle 1 does nothi g02:29
sigridthat sounds exactly what khm had02:40
sigridwhich is, keyboard shipped with standalone fw02:40
sigridgotta flash the other fw02:40
slok02:40
sluh02:42
slhow do i accomplish this without being able to power on the reform02:44
sigridthat's where i think cinap's change to make reform power on automatically on power without batteries could help02:48
sigridbut i am not sure whether it was merged02:49
slcan it be flashed over usb-c02:50
sigridyeah02:50
sigridyou need linux for that i think02:50
slok, i can just put th3 old keyboard in to flash it then02:50
sloh, i assumed i needed linux anyway02:51
slhelp, where do i download the default system image02:58
slnevermind, i found it02:59
- murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)03:13
+ murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)03:14
slany wagers on whether or not webfs chokes on this 2gb file03:14
sigridwhy would it?03:15
slmy experience with very large files is broken connections happen03:17
sigridwhen downloading directly with mothra maybe?03:17
sigriddidn't hget have a "continue" mode03:17
sli dunno, but our hget is an rc script03:18
slold hget did not use webfs03:18
sigridright. it's the -o file option03:20
slwell i'll be damned03:21
sigridtbh i always do >03:22
slme too03:22
sigridjust muscle memory03:23
slpretty sure i at least copyedited this man page, too :)03:23
- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)03:29
slyay, it's almost halfway done downloading03:30
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)03:36
khmsl: http://sciops.net/information/technology/reform_school/keyboard/firmware/03:39
khmsl: above link contains the bash script to flash, and a prebuilt firmware for use in a reform03:39
slthanks03:39
slcurrently waiting for linux to download03:39
sli realized i can't power on the reform at all with the new keyboards installed03:39
slso i'm gonna try over usb-c03:39
khmyeah same here03:40
khmI pulled it back out and flashed it over usb-c03:40
slok03:40
khmmost time consuming part was rifling through laptops to find one with debian installed03:40
khmflashing takes under a second, then it worked fine as soon as I installed it03:40
sli'm just gonna boot the reform on the default image03:40
khmI can't remember if the default image has the dfu-programmer package installed, but that's the only one you need if you install the one on my site03:41
slok03:41
khmotherwise you need a bunch of git and gcc-avr and make and such03:41
khmto build it from source03:41
sloh, i think they have prebuilt binaries now03:41
khmwell, I certainly do.03:42
slthank you!03:42
- nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~nicolas@85-49-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:57
+ nsc (~nicolas@i5E860807.versanet.de)03:59
slokay, i was able to flash it from the default refom image, everything's working now04:47
- Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~linx@149.210.8.17)05:47
+ Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.8.17)05:47
+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)06:31
joschminute: i guess next reform keyboard version should allow for the firmware to read the position of the dip switch and then just do the right thing depending on the switch position so that there is only one firmware for both modes? :)07:17
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a09:c300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)07:25
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- murdock (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)12:48
+ murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)12:48
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+ murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)12:54
hramrachsounds like a good idea :)13:22
joschanother thing that would be nice right now maybe would be to make it very prominently visible on the oled screen whether one has the standalone or internal firmware flashed13:24
+ mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)14:14
mhoyehey, everyone should update ssh today14:45
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+ murdock (~murdock@2600:380:bd78:6a51:44d0:45a3:ff56:d236)16:49
joschmhoye: you mean CVE-2023-48795?17:09
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+ mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)18:33
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+ murdock (~murdock@dhcp-209-99-199-115.greenmountainaccess.net)20:47
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+ murdock (~murdock@2600:380:bc6c:2e37:f53e:7146:3299:1b94)21:27
+ mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)21:30
minutehttps://mastodon.social/@geerlingguy/11161438316379092421:34
TwodisbetterOh that's rad. Jeff is a nice guy!21:36
joschwho is Jeff Geerling?21:37
Twodisbetterjosch: he mainly covers doing crazy things with RPIs. 21:37
TwodisbetterLike he has made a lot of clusters using them, messed with getting desktop GPUS and other PCIe devices working. 21:37
minuteyeah, recently he had a good video comparing lots of CM4-alikes21:38
TwodisbetterHe also wrote a book on ansible and has made some pretty well known cookbooks for it. Like one will install Synapse, set up caddy, and eturnal. 21:38
joschoooh i think i saw that! :D21:38
joschah indeed i watched this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KghZIgkKZcs21:41
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+ Guest1022 (~mjw@2001:1c06:2488:1400:4fd:39a7:74ac:7bae)21:42
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)21:43
jfredIt doesn't surprise me that he picked up a Reform with the CM4 module considering how much CM4 stuff he's done lately haha22:05
jfredhope we'll see a video out of it!22:05
- vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)22:14
TwodisbetterI'm sure he'll make a video on it for sure. 22:15
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)22:17
- jacobk (QUIT: Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)22:19
khmjeff geerling's reviews have saved me thousands of dollars over the years22:19

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