2023-12-19.log

- chaseadam (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~achasen@99.85.27.253)00:28
erlejosch i use zathura and like it00:29
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sigrid20:38 < erle> (tga can be fully supported in around 200 to 300 lines of C code)00:37
sigrid; wc -l ~/w/_/qk1/i_tga.c 00:37
sigrid305 /home/ftrvx/w/_/qk1/i_tga.c00:37
sigridsounds almost right00:37
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- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a09:c300:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)00:42
erlesigrid what is that?00:49
sigridquake 1 engine fork, tga decoder00:49
sigridit's supposed to work with all imaginable tga variations and do proper flipping and attribute parsing00:50
erlesigrid i have a present for you then: https://git.minetest.land/erlehmann/tga_encoder/pulls/101:24
erlesigrid do you want to share your test textures?01:25
erlealso maybe tell me if there are attributes i have missed in case you are an expert on the topic01:25
sigridsure. I wrote a lib very long time ago for go, here's the tests: https://github.com/ftrvxmtrx/tga/tree/master/testdata01:28
sigridyours is an encoder though, so I am not sure01:29
erlesigrid for my encoder to be tested i need a decoder after all01:47
sigridif you have all the test samples in another format (like png or something) to compare pixel-by-pixel then I can run my decoder on them01:50
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joschminute: thank you for making the internal JST 4-Pin USB connectors GND, D+, D-, VCC which makes connecting those to other things really intuitive without having to write down the order of cables somewhere and having to look it up all the time :)10:01
minute:310:04
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bluerisemorning10:54
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minuteyo12:14
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josch_o/12:44
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joschminute: i find myself crimping a few JST PH4 cables yet again. If you had those in the shop I'd buy a couple of them.12:55
joschThis would also be another step in the direction of "you can assemble a full reform by buying the individual parts from the shop" :)12:56
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Twodisbetterany of you fine folks use Movim for your XMPP needs? What I can say is that it reliably resolves voice and video calls EVERYTIME, unlike almost all other XMPP clients out there. 15:15
- erle (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~erle@2a02:8109:da40:c4:6bcf:7beb:9807:2d65)15:31
minutet-shirt restock arrived15:35
minute(not yet reflected in shop)15:36
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abortretryfailTwodisbetter: anyone I've needed to video call has never had the patience to try and make XMPP work. 15:47
TwodisbetterMovim makes it easy. And it solves the issues of OSes missing good clients (Windows and iOS / Mac OS)16:21
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TwodisbetterIt is one of the few PWAs that I think really makes sense. 18:02
joschTwodisbetter: i never tried movim but had reliable voice+video calls with dino (linux) and conversations (android)18:04
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TwodisbetterJosch: Intersting. It is real hit or miss for me on both. But it is because my coturn isntance is behind two NATs and I'm not sure if Telekom is permitting the traffic on the ports it is using. 19:20
joschconversations is running with a Telekom sim card here. My turn server is provided by my ejabberd server (XEP-0215).19:21
josch(as is STUN)19:21
joschTwodisbetter: does your xmpp server pass https://compliance.conversations.im with 100%?19:22
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Twodisbetterjosch: 95%19:57
TwodisbetterI don't have XEP-0368 - SRV records for XMPP over TLS19:59
Twodisbetterseems unnecessary honestly19:59
TwodisbetterMy matrix instance has the same issue. Sometimes video and audio calls work and sometimes they don't. 20:05
TwodisbetterHowever with Movim my audio / video calls ALWAYS work. It is like magic that I don't understand. 20:05
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+ doctorhoo (~hanno@2001:2043:5e0f:a800:8020:aa70:af5b:baf6)20:55
doctorhooHej! I have just done the *big* upgrade on my Reform: A311D, keyboard, LPC firmware. I should have probably done that step by step instead in one go.. for now, the keyboard only shows brightness controls, fw info and flashing mode as options when I press the circle key -- but I do not know what might be the problem. I set the keyboard to "standalone" OFF (i.e. not "ON", position towards the keys), the LPC is no longer in PROG m20:59
doctorhoohas been reset and power is connected. Any ideas where to start looking? Keyboard reports fw g4ecf2ea (not updated since I received it last week).20:59
doctorhooJust to be clear: Circle-1 is not shown as an option in the OLED and has no visible effect at all when pressed. The main display never switches on nor does any LED except charging come up. 21:00
joschdoctorhoo: the default keyboard firmware is the standalone firmware21:03
doctorhood'oh21:03
joschif you are using the keyboard non-standalone (i.e. inside the reform) then you have to flash the non-standalone firmware21:03
doctorhoomakes sense!21:03
doctorhoojosch: can I do that with the keyboard still in the reform or do I have to first remove it?21:03
doctorhoo(I assume the latter?)21:04
joschno idea. i don't have a v3 keyboard (...yet -- ordered one a few weeks ago though :D )21:05
joschminute: ^21:05
doctorhoojosch: thank you so much for the quick and no worries -- the keyboard is half-way out already, that is the beauty of the reform :D21:06
joschnow that Lukas mentioned that the t-shirts arrived today, i fear that my own order was just stuck at the t-shirt i had thrown in with it XD21:11
doctorhoowell, even more to look forward to! :D21:17
joschyes :)21:18
minutedoctorhoo: sorry for the trouble, yeah, you need to reflash as non-standalone (but you can use the standalone DIP switch set to ON to do that via usb-c, just toggle it off before putting it back in the laptop)21:20
minutei just spent a few hours gathering experimental data around wifi interference with displayport cabling, esp. for LS1028A21:20
joschminute: do you still plan to buy back second-hand imx8mq?21:22
minutejosch: actually it might not be necessary anymore. it looks like CS will be switching over to a311d as the default 21:24
doctorhoominute: cheers! I am working on that now, just need to figure out how to adjust flash.sh to the Ubuntu 20.04 version of udevadm that is installed on my other machine.. :-/21:24
minutedoctorhoo: you can use flash-direct.sh21:24
minute(i recently added that because during development i just need a quick flashing script without questions)21:24
joschminute: hm bummer, i upgraded to a311d thinking that my imx8mq would get a second life -- i'll see whether anybody else is willing to buy it via the forums then i think21:25
minutejosch: ah yeah, i promised you that so we will buy yours back21:25
doctorhoominute: sounds promising! I can't seem to find it in the master branch though. Where would it be located?21:25
minutedoctorhoo: yeah i'm wondering, hang on21:25
joschminute: you have some use for it?21:26
joschdoctorhoo: it's in ./reform2-keyboard-fw/flash-direct.sh21:27
minutedoctorhoo: now it is, i forgot to merge that branch before21:27
minutebut if you pull now, it's there21:27
minutejosch: yeah we can use it as a spare, we have almost no "good" ones left and one order left to ship with that processor21:28
joschoh nice :)21:29
joschyeah, you probably still have my old im8mq with broken serial around, for example XD21:29
doctorhoominute: thanks, that did it! :)21:29
minutejosch: yes, i used it today for some tests :D21:30
minutewe have at least 10 broken modules here21:30
minutethat have some kind of issue21:31
joschuff21:31
joschand thank you :)21:31
minutejosch: if you could write a quick note about the imx8mq to support@mntre.com, plom will file that request and it will be 100% taken care of21:32
joschokay! <321:32
minutejosch: btw not sure if you've seen, but your order was packed today, will go out tomorrow21:35
josch"MNT Research Shop Shipment Notification #R852123735"21:37
joschi had *not* seen that mail!21:37
joschawesome!! :D21:37
joschwohoo!21:37
minutehehe nice!21:37
joschperfect timing for rocking the MNT shirt this xmas with my family :)21:38
doctorhoominute, josch: amazing, system is fully booted, thanks for the quick help!21:38
violeti wish the occasional blackscreen freeze i sometimes get over night would happen while i was actually watching the computer lol21:39
doctorhoominute: I really had a great time putting everything together -- I love the finish of all components and the attention to details, it is a pleasure from unwrapping to booting up :D 21:39
vagrantcis shop.mntre.com the only place to get the mnt reform keyboards?21:40
vagrantci am really curious about the new keyboard layout ... the shipping is a bit much to the US to just satisfy a curiosity21:41
vagrantcACTION ponders asking around about doing another "group buy" or something21:42
doctorhooviolet: I had an issue which sounds quite similar: screen would stay black and the computer would be completely unresponsive. The issue was related to the call to 'dpms off' which switched off the display after long idle times and the workaround was to remove that. Could that be what you experience?21:46
joschviolet: can you describe what you mean by "blackscreen freeze"?21:51
minutehttps://community.mnt.re/t/research-into-ls1028a-wifi-to-edp-interference/176221:53
sigridI seem to have that related to wifi module being in21:53
minutedoctorhoo: oh, really great to hear this, cool that it works!21:54
sigridif I don't have wifi there it works fine21:54
minutevagrantc: so far yes, but we're in talks with CS, ~maybe~ it will be added there21:54
doctorhooviolet: just in case it is the same issue, I summarized it together with the workaround here: https://community.mnt.re/t/workaround-stability-issue-during-long-idle-time/170621:55
vagrantcminute: i presume you'll mention on mastodon if it does become available there? :)21:55
vagrantcs,mastodon,fediverse,21:55
minuteyes21:56
violetjosch: i come back to the computer in the morning and the screen is black. device is disconnected from wifi. leds on the bottom are still on and the management chip thingy is still responsive thru the keyboard21:58
violetbut like i have also left my computer on for weeks at a time without running into it21:58
violetso i have no idea what causes it21:58
joschviolet: what method do you use to turn off your screen when on idle?21:58
violeti dont turn of my screen when idle21:59
violetit is always on21:59
joschoh21:59
violeti thought maybe it was related to a software build i left running over night but when i hard-reset the computer and turned it back on, the build was done, so it definitely finished that before it happened! very strange22:00
minuteviolet: ever tried ctrl-alt-f2 in that state?22:01
sigridI played a bit with wifi driver on mine to turn it off in software, instead of physically taking out, and that seemed to improve the situation with idle hangups22:01
violeti have not. i can try that out next time it happens though22:01
sigridnote though: this isn't linux I'm talking about22:01
sigridI don't think it's even a software problem22:01
minutesigrid: hmmm.22:01
violetthough the LCD looked physically off, including the backlight22:01
joschviolet: it would also be interesting if your device is reachable via network in that state?22:01
violetit is not! it loses network connectivity in this state too22:01
violeti checked that this morning to see if i could ssh in to find out what happened, but sadly no22:02
joschlast thing would be to see if it reacts via serial uart?22:02
violetif it happens again ill try that out22:02
joschi had a very similar effect where in the morning the leds on the bottom would still be on, the oled would show that the system is on but the screen was black and the device was not reachable via network nor did it react via serial22:03
joschthe issue in my case was, that i turned my display off on idle using "swaymsg "output * dpms off" and that somehow hangs up the system after some time22:04
sigridI guess the "system is on" is "power rails are on", really22:04
joschyes22:04
violetyeah i dont use dpms22:04
violetnow that i am thinking about it, i could imagine a scenario where dpms triggers. but it would have to be from sway crashing, and then i dont know if there is a display timeout on the TTY by default but if there is, then that could trigger it22:05
violetso sway crashes -> computer is on TTY -> TTY powers off display, is something i could imagine. which i should be able to catch if i start sending sway output to a file, though sway isn't really a frequent crasher 22:06
joschviolet: does your display auto-suspend when you are on a tty?22:07
violeti dont know!22:07
violeti will turn it on and leave it for awhile to find out22:07
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joschi don't know if console blanking is what could trigger it but you should see in /sys/module/kernel/parameters/consoleblank whether that is enabled at all22:08
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josch"We have created a new issue #3256 to track your request." -- wow that's a *lot* of issues!23:36
minutejosch: a lot of them are spam mails ^^23:38
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pandoraare there mnt patches available? I just see stickers but i would like to have a patch for ma=y backpack :D23:53
minutepandora: hmm, not yet!23:54
pandoraahh sad ... maybe in the future :)23:55
minuteit's a good idea in any case23:56
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