| sevan | minute: steam asked me if I wanted to participate in the hardware survey yesterday. https://media.mastodon.sunny.garden/media_attachments/files/111/592/070/039/788/519/original/623c69b7fda8b250.png | 00:00 |
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| sevan | minute: so I said yes https://media.mastodon.sunny.garden/media_attachments/files/111/592/071/027/072/398/original/0cd2fd06b508a55a.png | 00:00 |
| minute | sevan: haha! i wonder where the "unknown" comes from | 00:18 |
| minute | genuine box86 intel | 00:18 |
| sevan | :) | 00:26 |
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| abortretryfail | box86/box64 is awesome | 02:46 |
| abortretryfail | yay, box64 e42001b2 runs the Vendetta Online updater and game flawlessly. :D | 03:55 |
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| Twodisbetter | sevan: the funny thing is that I am guessing those results will be useful for Valve. It shows them edge cases and where potential interest is going forward. | 10:25 |
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| Twodisbetter | sevan: I personally would like to see GoG make their Galaxy application for ARM. Their collection of games would most likely all run with a little bit of tweaking, etc. | 10:25 |
| Twodisbetter | sevan: well their older games I mean. | 10:53 |
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| minute | Twodisbetter: true | 11:34 |
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| hramrach | Twodisbetter: also the pine hardware situation improved over time. The software situation not so much - there was some controversy about limiting support across distributions. Still the Linux being largely community effort is more or less the case for all hardware. | 12:21 |
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| josch | in my experience that's the situation with all open source hardware i have purchased before. You get the physical thing but then you are on your own with building, flashing and configuring some software that runs on it and makes it somehow work. | 13:23 |
| josch | the fact that the reform as it is ships boots into something that can be used out-of-the-box was unusual for me | 13:24 |
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| [tj] | pine are pretty explicit now that the community is the source of all software | 14:17 |
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| chaseadam | minute: with the R3 fix, do we still have control over charging current? I thought that pin we leave floating was the only current control for the LTC4020. | 16:59 |
| chaseadam | minute: currently the "balancing" stage agressively cycles through >1A charge current, overvolt, and cooldown. Hoping to make that a little less aggressive. | 17:01 |
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| josch | what image viewers are people here using? | 18:54 |
| josch | i used to use feh which i liked because of how lightweight it is and that it allows custom scripting actions that can call to arbitrary shell scripts on key press | 18:55 |
| josch | unfortunately it is X11 only | 18:55 |
| josch | is there a minimal viewer that works well under wayland? | 18:55 |
| sigrid | i use feh under wayland | 19:00 |
| sigrid | but i also want to write my own image viewer for some time because i don't like any existing ones :/ | 19:09 |
| vkoskiv | feh is x11 though, works via xwayland | 19:26 |
| vkoskiv | There was a wayland equivalent, but the name escapes me | 19:26 |
| vkoskiv | s/was/is | 19:26 |
| erle | josch sxiv | 19:42 |
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| josch | erle: you probably mean swiv which is a fork of sxiv with wayland support? | 20:35 |
| erle | josch no, i just answered before my mind could process the wayland-native requirement | 20:36 |
| josch | ah :) | 20:36 |
| erle | reflex action, no intelligent thought was involved! | 20:36 |
| unixpoet | https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/Useful-add-ons-for-sway#image-viewers lists a few, of course biased toward tiling WMs but still useful | 20:36 |
| erle | by the way, fuzzing image viewers with afl-fuzz is always an experience | 20:37 |
| unixpoet | haha, probably pretty trippy when the image viewer doesn't just crash | 20:37 |
| erle | i am maintaining a tga encoder library and it is hilarious that even with such a simple format some programs just fold up if you combine specific feature flags. it's probably worse for more complex formats. | 20:37 |
| erle | (tga can be fully supported in around 200 to 300 lines of C code) | 20:38 |
| erle | also, if you write an image viewer yourself i highly suggest to not allocate memory up front based on the alleged image dimension. otherwise you lose to lottapixel.jpg (a 1 pixel JPEG where some enterprising joker has changed the image dimensions to maximum funni with a hex editor) | 20:40 |
| josch | if i ever write an image viewer i'll just use existing image parsing libraries instead of writing the CVEs myself ;) | 20:41 |
| erle | implying they are not broken | 20:41 |
| erle | imagemagick e.g. maps scanline order to image rotation internally, with the result that it sometimes randomly turns your images upside down | 20:41 |
| erle | (scanline order is relevant before decoding, rotation after. it is not the same) | 20:42 |
| josch | erle: implying that somebody else is doing the work of unbreaking them | 20:42 |
| josch | erle: i'm maintaining a converter of raster images to pdf -- i'm well aware of all the terrible bugs surrounding parsing of image data formats ;) | 20:43 |
| josch | vkoskiv: thank you that list was great! It seems that imv is exactly what i want | 20:43 |
| erle | oh, imagemagick rejects every patch for any issue that is “imagemagick turns my image upside down”, the devs tell everyone to use the -auto-orient option, which (as far as i can tell) just triggers the bug *twice* (but i think i can engineer a situation where it is triggered thrice using montage(1) …) | 20:43 |
| josch | imv even lets me create custom actions running external programs which is one of the main features i liked in feh | 20:43 |
| erle | nice | 20:43 |
| erle | josch where is that converter? i want to see how it deals with my tga_encoder test images | 20:44 |
| josch | erle: it will deal with it in the same way as PIL deals with them because that's what it is using | 20:44 |
| josch | erle: so if Image.open() works with your files then it will work with my converter | 20:44 |
| erle | i see | 20:45 |
| erle | that's something i have not yet tested | 20:45 |
| erle | in other news, today i took an SVG with a fill pattern to the copyshop and the employee told me she can't see the fill pattern … she used very old illustrator to avoid the cloud stuff :( | 20:46 |
| josch | always conver to pdf before showing up at a copy shop ;) | 20:46 |
| erle | oh yeah, but in this case i wanted plotter input and she told me svg is okay | 20:46 |
| erle | turns out it is not | 20:46 |
| erle | and also she told me to avoid SVG filters | 20:47 |
| erle | illustrator seems to be not the best vector editor in the history of vector editors i | 20:47 |
| erle | ig | 20:47 |
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| josch | i also found https://arewewaylandyet.com/ now which made me find zathura as a minimal pdf viewer | 22:11 |
| sigrid | I use llpp for pdf. it's extremely nice to use | 22:21 |
| Twodisbetter | llpp? I'll have to check that out | 22:24 |
| Twodisbetter | is llpp only available on Arch? | 22:29 |
| sigrid | I use nixos | 22:32 |
| sigrid | before I used it on openbsd | 22:33 |
| unixpoet | zathura is pretty lovely if you want something lighter than a desktop's viewer that's still got a good feature set | 23:00 |
| unixpoet | very keyboard-oriented, has good docs | 23:00 |
| unixpoet | supports different formats via plugins | 23:01 |
| josch | has synctex support! | 23:01 |
| unixpoet | yep! | 23:05 |
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