2023-12-17.log

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minutebluerise: we normally include one, was it missing? :/01:51
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blueriseminute: we're talking about it being part of the cm4 adapter set, right? it's no in there :O12:10
blueriseor is it in the regular mnt reform package?12:11
bluerisenah, none either :/12:12
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+ colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-159-4.tukw.qwest.net)17:16
+ Twodisbetter (2cc0e4ea1c@irc.cheogram.com)17:37
TwodisbetterHello everyone. 2disbetter here (BoostisBetter)17:37
TwodisbetterI'm consolidating my XMPP user accounts. 17:38
TwodisbetterI can see this in the log, so I am thinking is working. Bummer that IRC doesn't allow username to start with a number. 17:40
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+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)19:14
+ f_[xmpp] (fffdb90022@fases/developer/funderscore)19:23
f_[xmpp]Twodisbetter: oh hi19:23
f_[xmpp]AFAIK it's not an IRC limitation, it's a libera limitation(?)19:23
f_[xmpp]But weren't you already using xmpp to connect to IRC?19:24
Twodisbetterf_: yes I was but under a different xmpp account. 19:26
f_I usually just use IRC directly.19:26
TwodisbetterI have 3 xmpp accounts on my instance, and I want to get down to just 2 or perhaps one. 19:26
TwodisbetterYeah probably would be the best, BUT I like being able to consolidate the number of clients I am using as well. 19:26
f_XMPP puppet was originally for chatlogs, but it's useless now :P as I'm using a bouncer19:27
f_Twodisbetter: understandable.19:27
f_[xmpp]But I'd rather use my IRC client with IRC+XMPP+Matrix rather than my XMPP client with IRC+XMPP+Matrix TBH.19:27
f_Don't forget to register with nickserv BTW, just in case19:28
+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)19:38
minutebluerise: normally shipped with rcm4. sorry for the oversight, we'll send it to you 20:11
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)20:27
bluerisethanks :)20:30
blueriseSigh, one thing I hate with Rockchip is that I always have problems with SDIO WiFi20:34
bluerisesdio timeouts20:34
bluerisehad it with the pinebook as well20:34
minutemeh20:38
minutewhich chipset?20:38
minutertw88 perhaps?20:39
bluerisenah, brcmfmac20:41
+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)20:46
minuteugh20:52
blueriseusually works well!20:54
blueriseit must be a rockchip problem20:55
bluerisewell, or a "i'm not holding the rockchip one well enough"20:55
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)21:08
sevanthe original pinebook I have is flaking into pieces. Hardware will be unusable as a laptop will be unusable in a year or two?21:16
sevanugh, I say, what I meant to say is "Hardware will be unusable as a laptop in a year or two?" 21:17
[tj]my original pinebook broke in about 20 minutes, terrible plastics21:17
sevancame with a crack from the factory21:17
[tj]I think my did too, opening it to set the serial switch and the plastic hinge mounts broke21:19
sevanhad the same thing with the hinges recently.21:20
- GNUmoon (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)21:39
minuteat least they were cheap, i guess...23:29
- mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)23:38
TwodisbetterI never liked pine. Cheap hardware with no attempts at the software which is the truly crucial and hard part23:45
TwodisbetterI mean think about it. Slowest or weakest processor in the world not had excellent Software that supports the hardware well. All the software you can imagine. I'm this scenario the hardware doesn't really matter. 23:46
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)23:46
TwodisbetterI mean think about it. Slowest or weakest processor in the world but excellent software support that also supports the hardware well. All the software you can imagine. In this scenario the hardware doesn't really matter. 23:47
sevanTwodisbetter: armbian supports everything, casing is flaky. keyboard is terrible.23:49
sevanminute: yeah. not very long term lifetime in mind.23:52
Twodisbettersevan: yeah but pine only works because others did the heavy lifting. Hard to not feel like they are just a get rich quick scheme in a sea of companies in China trying standout. 23:52
Twodisbettersevan: yeah but pine only works because others did the heavy lifting. Hard to not feel like they are just a get rich quick scheme in a sea of companies in China trying to standout. 23:53
minutei'm not comfortable to dunk on other projects here too much.23:53
sevanTwodisbetter: joke: you can say that again.23:53
minutes/to dunk/with dunking23:53
sevanappologies.23:53
minutei have a hard time believing that pine are making a lot of money with the stuff... the margins are probably very small23:54
Twodisbetterminute: so understand. That makes sense23:54
Twodisbetterminute:  I understand. That makes sense. 23:54

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