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| f_ | minute: I hope f_ will find time to continue reverse-engineering instead of fixing his own regressions. | 11:10 |
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| f_ | :D | 11:11 |
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| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.8.17) | 11:11 | |
| minute | f_: heh :D | 11:42 |
| f_ | Really, that S905 issue is a regression *I* introduced :P | 11:42 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 12:11 | |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 12:12 | |
| abortretryfail | minute: i wonder if chaseadam encountered problems charging from some sources like USB-C adapters as I have. | 12:52 |
| abortretryfail | The Reform will pull a surprising amount of current and both of the USB-C chargers I have used with a 20V trigger cable will shut down. maybe some short circuit protection? | 12:53 |
| abortretryfail | A radio I have which also uses the LTC4020 will charge no problem with the same trigger cable and charger, but it draws much less current. | 12:54 |
| abortretryfail | oh nvm, there was more comments about resistor heat dissipation i missed. | 12:56 |
| jfred | I think I've experienced the same with USB-C chargers though, and my Reform was plugged in with such a charger when it did this: https://community.mnt.re/t/just-came-back-to-a-seemingly-dead-board/1162 | 13:16 |
| minute | reform charges with around 60W | 13:17 |
| jfred | (I've since gotten that broken mobo fixed, maybe I should update that thread with some info about what failed) | 13:17 |
| f_ | jfred: You should, in case someone else has the same issue | 13:21 |
| jfred | Aye | 13:22 |
| jfred | Also though I'm hesitant to plug it back in with the same adapter again, maybe I should do that and plug in my USB-PD power monitor to see what's happening | 13:25 |
| jfred | And see if the USB-C power supply shuts down like it did before | 13:28 |
| abortretryfail | minute: a bit over 60W actually. I've got a 60W PD charge port on a solar power bank and it cuts out trying to charge the Reform. | 13:32 |
| abortretryfail | Usually I charge it from a 13.8V amateur radio power supply and I've seen it go over 5A on the meter there. | 13:33 |
| sknebel | looking at the datasheet, the LTC4020 has a pin which can be used to scale the charge current by a percentage. too bad with QFN package you cant really hook anything to that after the fact... | 13:36 |
| abortretryfail | RNG/SS? | 13:41 |
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| abortretryfail | oh what, i didnt realize that was the resistor bodge. RNG/SS is left floating? | 13:46 |
| + arminweigl (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 13:46 | |
| - violet (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~vi@user/violet) | 13:54 | |
| + violet (~vi@user/violet) | 13:55 | |
| sknebel | oh right, using that apparently was a problem: https://community.mnt.re/t/mnt-reform-r-2-motherboard-update-2021-04-19/177 | 13:56 |
| abortretryfail | Using it to disable charging altogether was, but i wonder if it can still be used to limit current during charging | 13:57 |
| sknebel | right, and someone with good (better than me...) soldering skill could even reasonably try that given the pad left by the change | 13:59 |
| abortretryfail | I could solder that, wonder if it's worth putting a little trimpot on there | 14:13 |
| mhoye | speculative question: how would I go about diagnosing a dead USB port? | 14:21 |
| abortretryfail | try the device on a different port first | 14:24 |
| abortretryfail | then check the suspected port with a known-working device | 14:24 |
| abortretryfail | look at dmesg and see if there are kernel messages about USB problems | 14:24 |
| abortretryfail | test if the port has 5v power | 14:24 |
| mhoye | abortretryfail: thanks - I've confirmed that devices aren't powered or OS-visible when they're plugged into it, so it seems like a hardware problem. | 14:37 |
| mhoye | Testing fuses next, I guess... | 14:38 |
| + Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com) | 15:03 | |
| abortretryfail | mhoye: best of luck | 15:03 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 15:22 | |
| mhoye | Thank you. | 16:18 |
| mhoye | A thing I am going to say about that is... look, the manual and docs for this thing are just fantastic. | 16:19 |
| mhoye | It should not be this way, but it is exceedingly refreshing to read a document that was written by somebody who clearly wants you to have some sort of agency over your situation, and not just reboot the thing or return it to the shop. | 16:20 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~quassel@64.189.201.150) | 16:33 | |
| abortretryfail | Yeah I love it. The docs and source code are how I was able to get my mic input working again. If this was any of my other computers I would have probably been boned. | 17:01 |
| * f_ -> funderscore | 18:04 | |
| * funderscore -> f_ | 18:06 | |
| + jacobk (~quassel@2603-8080-b200-7b02-77cb-6304-f9db-dda1.res6.spectrum.com) | 18:08 | |
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| bluerise | minute: ah, cm4 pcie is on mpcie not m2? | 19:06 |
| bluerise | > Complimentary M.2 to mPCIe adapter -- where's that one? :D | 19:06 |
| abortretryfail | Is that the dickbag who was trying to justify drug price hikes? | 20:21 |
| abortretryfail | oh whoops, wrong channel sorry. uspol :( | 20:21 |
| + jacobk (~quassel@2603-8080-b200-7b02-77cb-6304-f9db-dda1.res6.spectrum.com) | 20:31 | |
| bluerise | nvme0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 vendor "Phison", unknown product 0x5012 rev 0x01: msix, NVMe 1.3 | 20:47 |
| bluerise | nvme0: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD, firmware ECFM22.4, serial B968079819B500873571 | 20:47 |
| bluerise | found an adapter | 20:47 |
| bluerise | I thought I had another one somewhere, not sure where | 20:48 |
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| bluerise | minute: any recommendations for an adapter? | 21:09 |
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| + chaseadam (~achasen@2600:1700:e70:7f9f:cc6c:d0f5:78a1:52c0) | 22:02 | |
| josch | abortretryfail, jfred: i'm successfully charging my reform with two different usb-c to 20 V adapters for over a year now without any problems in case you want some product recommendations | 22:28 |
| abortretryfail | tbh the utility of USB-PD charging to me comes from being able to use whatever charger is available. If the Reform is a huge current hog and will only charge with the beefiest of sources, it doesn't do me much good and I prefer the plain DC power jack and a pair of clip leads. :) | 22:30 |
| abortretryfail | I'm interested to hear which ones work though. | 22:30 |
| - kensanata (QUIT: Quit: OK) (~alex@user/kensanata) | 22:31 | |
| abortretryfail | being able to charge it off the radio DC power without making any RFI is already a huge win | 22:31 |
| + kensanata (~alex@user/kensanata) | 22:32 | |
| josch | abortretryfail: the usb-c adapter i use is rated for 20 V @ 3 A == 60 W | 22:34 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20) | 22:39 | |
| abortretryfail | the power station I have is also rated 20 V @ 3A and the Reform trips its over-current protection, shutting off the port. | 22:39 |
| abortretryfail | https://www.goalzero.com/collections/portable-power-stations/products/goal-zero-yeti-1000-core | 22:39 |
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| + chaseadam (~achasen@2600:1700:e70:7f9f:cc6c:d0f5:78a1:52c0) | 23:35 | |
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