2023-12-04.log

minutejosch: oh? :D00:10
minutei fuzzily remember that i did something like that00:11
joschseems you did! https://twitter.com/minut_e/status/160009719365393612900:12
joschsoon i'll have three SoMs here on my table so before i send my imx in i'd like to run some comparison benchmarks and create pretty graphs :)00:14
minutenice00:22
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minutels1028a modules are here now.12:39
joschuff nice! :) They are all getting the boot-up fix now I guess?12:41
minuteyes :312:46
joschuff :D i already broke out in sweat when cutting that trace on my trackball v2 -- would not like to doctor around on such expensive boards XD12:47
josch(but the operation seems to have been successful -- no connection between the northern pads of C5 and C25 anymore \o/)12:49
joscherrr... C24 I mean12:50
minute:012:55
minuteyeah on the ls1028a, this time D6 is already not-placed by the assembly house12:56
minuteso i only have to add a 0R and the jtag reset wire12:56
joschoh so you can make small adjustments like that in the middle of a run?12:56
minutejosch: yes in this case it was possible because they were waiting for the 36x ls1028a chips anyway12:56
minutepcbway is really flexible to work with12:56
joschoh cool :)12:56
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mhoyequick question, before I cause my self to become unbootable again. I've added 'setenv bootargs "${bootargs} consoleblank=0" to /etc/flash-kernel/ubootenv.d/00something17:17
mhoyeI want to end up with consoleblank set to 0, and  believe my next steps are to run 'reform-flash-uboot' and then restart.17:18
mhoyeI still can't find whatever's setting my current timeout to 60 seconds, instead of 60017:18
joschmhoye: did you try to see if setterm gets ever called during boot by turning it into a proxy script?17:22
joschmhoye: your question is very valid. I prepared a diff to our boot.scr which should answer your question: https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/flash-kernel/-/merge_requests/53/diffs17:23
joschmhoye: do you find the answer you are looking for in there?17:23
joschif not I probably should rephrase some things17:23
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mhoyejosch: hmm, no I haven't tried wrapping it yet, let me do that now.17:43
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mhoyejosch: so, after wrapping setterm in a script that dumps cli options and pids and stuff and then rebooting, I can confirm that /sys/modules/kernel/parameters/consoleblank is set to 60 on boot and nothing is calling /usr/bin/setterm 18:16
sevanis there any way of manipulating the scheduling priorities of things kernel side as an adminitrator. I know thing can be modified in source & recompiled, but I'm wondering about controls to avoid that. I had around 260 packages to install including ZFS updates which I fired off with nice -n19, yet when it came to build zfs-dkms it overloaded the system since it tries to use all CPU cores for the build. 18:23
sevanresulting in the wifi connection flapping system the system is overloaded and unable to maintain the connection. I would like to priorities things so networking doesn't suffer18:23
sevanI guess it doesn't help if the dkms builds via 'apt upgrade' run as root.18:25
mhoyesevan: there's a program called "cpulimit" that does what you want 18:40
sevanmhoye: thanks, investigating it now, will take a week or two to amass a backlog of packages to install, to try out :)18:41
mhoyesevan: without getting into the cgroup weeds, there's a clever trick you can use:18:42
mhoyeUse the cpulimit command with the "include-children" option, and then just... run bash.18:42
sevanahhh, yes.18:43
mhoyeThat gives you a load-safe subshell, as in "nothing under this can kill my system"18:43
sevangot it, thanks :)18:44
sevanACTION goes to modify gdm service to invoke cpulimit first :) (j/k)18:44
mhoyesee you in a few weeks!18:46
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mhoyesevan: one thing to maybe have on your radar is that the cpulimit program is a blunt instrument - it isn't carefully measuring out cpu resources in some sophisticated way or anything, it's just whacking processes with a rolled up SIGSTOP newspaper until they behave.18:53
sevanmhoye: noted. should be ok with GCC?18:54
mhoyeInasmuch as anything is!18:54
sevanfun :)18:55
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joschmhoye: then i'm out of ideas for easy debugging options concerning consoleblank19:47
joschmhoye: did you find the answer you were looking for in the diff i sent you?19:47
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mhoyejosch: Let's find out!20:01
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Boostisbetterminute: congrats on getting the RCM4 modules out. I think the CM5 would be the only one to interest me personally. Now that it is capable of suspend out of the box and has a proper power switch, I think it would do really well in the Reform. Especially with the exposed PCIe lane for the NVME drive. 22:59
jfredBoostisbetter: I assume you mean something like BPI-CM5 and not an upcoming Raspberry Pi CM5? We don't have any info about what the Pi CM5 will look like yet, right?23:11
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Boostisbetterjfred, nah I think RPI already said that the CM5 is coming just no date on that yet23:14
jfredOh - I didn't realize the Pi 5 had suspend-to-RAM now23:16
jfredif the CM5 does too that'd be pretty nice23:16
Boostisbetteryeah it was one of hte highlights for me. Finally have standby on it. 23:16
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mhoyejosch: so, from the diff it is not clear what I need to do to cause those changes to work.23:23
joschmhoye: thank you for your feedback. I'll need to rework some things then.23:23
joschmhoye: the answer is that you want to edit /etc/default/flash-kernel and not files in /etc/flash-kernel/ubootenv.d to change bootargs.23:24
mhoyejosch: I didn't get the "not" part of that from line 14 of that patch. I interpreted "or drop scripts into" to mean "you can put them there.23:25
mhoye"23:25
mhoyesomewhat confusingly, dmesg -xH | grep ommand shows me the kernel boot options, some of which appear to have been set several times?23:27
joschmhoye: you can and it will probably do what you expect23:27
joschmhoye: but if you want to change bootargs, using /etc/default/flash-kernel is more declarative23:27
mhoyeIf I use that option, do I need to put in _all_ the necessary command line arguments, or is it additive?23:28
mhoyeAs in, is it overwriting everything else.23:28
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minuteBoostisbetter: yeah, looking forward to bpi cm5. we might have something better by then but lets see23:38
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minuteboostisbetter: sorry i meant rpi cm523:55
minutesurely it will have a lot of people looking at it and good linux support23:55

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