2023-11-18.log

- GNUmoon (QUIT: *.net *.split) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)00:23
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- Boostisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)00:33
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- klardotsh (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~klardotsh@c-67-170-115-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)01:04
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minutecool ls1028a reform ethercat surgery writeup by eibachd https://zeromips.org/posts/2023-11-17-reform2/01:44
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat241055.utdallas.edu)01:55
bkeysHas anyone gotten banana pi to boot from emmc?02:44
- Boostisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)02:52
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)03:29
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- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~quassel@utdpat241055.utdallas.edu)06:22
joscheibachd: this is an *amazing* hack! really awesome stuff! :D07:28
eibachdjosch: thanks. This is an amazing community that makes such things possible.07:36
+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)07:38
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+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)07:47
+ b07 (~b0@leo.uberspace.de)08:36
+ tadeus_brick (tadeustad@psifactor.pl)08:37
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500f74a847e8672c84b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)08:41
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+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)08:52
f_bkeys: It should be possible but I wouldn't recommend it.09:49
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500eae1c45e5f0489d8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)10:00
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- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500907b9c9109f2b92e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)10:06
+ eibachd (~eibachd@2a01:599:301:c642:8501:ffab:dc28:4702)10:07
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- f_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~f_@fases/developer/funderscore)11:06
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hramrachbkeys: it is difficult to *not* boot from emmc once you make it bootable11:33
hramrachie in case you need to boot a different system to fix up something when the emmc no longer boots11:34
hramrachwell, depending on the specific banana pi but I suppose this would be the amlogic one11:35
f_hramrach: It's not difficult to not boot from eMMC11:39
f_that is, if it boots.11:39
f_You can just replace the @AML header with zeros and it won't boot anymore11:40
- ehenter (QUIT: Server closed connection) (~ehenter@82-181-225-23.bb.dnainternet.fi)11:44
+ ehenter (~ehenter@82-181-225-23.bb.dnainternet.fi)11:44
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500cfd9ae38d56f6b62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)11:49
+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)11:49
+ jacobk (~quassel@64.189.201.150)12:00
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:09
- violet (QUIT: Server closed connection) (~vi@user/violet)12:16
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+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:30
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:34
hramrachf_: provided you can boot something that does the header replacement ;-)12:52
hramrachThis is where the HDMI boot dongle would come in but it needs testing that it works on the particular device.12:55
joschyeah, this is why in reform-tools we disabled any utilization of the emmc on a311d12:56
f_Making an hdmi boot dongle is actually quite easy.12:56
f_josch: Nice12:56
hramrachf_ | narmstrong wrote some docs about the dongle https://github.com/superna9999/linux/wiki/Amlogic-HDMI-Boot-Dongle12:56
f_hramrach: indeed!12:56
joschbut i guess MNT would have to ship it with the a311d or at least offer it in the shop or something so that people can un-brick their devices in case something goes wrong12:56
+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:57
f_probably, but it's just a modified hdmi 'emulator' from aliexpress12:57
f_Just buy one of these, connect the A1 pin of the EEPROM to VCC, flash the EEPROM, you're done.12:58
joschoh neil already sells them with the mod in place, nice! https://www.tindie.com/products/superna9999/meson-hdmi-recovery-boot-plug/13:00
* tadeus_brick -> TadeusTaD13:08
f_yup13:27
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)13:34
+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)14:03
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)14:45
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a03:f500:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)14:46
qbithttps://tapenet.org:443/_matrix/media/r0/download/tapenet.org/lJkwmBSIHxvBYsrYiVtejIYr/IMG_0407.HEIC15:05
qbitAny suggestions for re-mounting this? :P15:05
f_qbit: open the laptop and remove the card?15:07
q66protip: use an image format people can reasonably open15:08
f_I can open that image with feh just fine, so what?15:10
q66none of my web browsers don't open it15:10
q66s/don't//15:10
f_It's normal. IIRC matrix links default to download.15:11
q66no, they fixed that15:11
f_(this looks like a matrix link?)15:11
q66heic is just not widely supported15:11
+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)15:12
qbitf_: you misunderstand - the pin that the screw attaches to has popped out15:12
qbitso there is nothing to secure it to15:12
f_I understand perfectly.15:13
f_Remove the card.15:13
qbitremoving it doesn't let me re-attach it.15:13
qbitit's currently removed15:13
f_Remove the screw perhaps15:13
qbitas you "suggested"15:13
qbitthe screw can't attach to anything15:14
qbitthe metal bit that is connected to the board popped oyut15:14
minuteqbit: oh wow. do you have a soldering iron?15:14
qbitminute: i do!15:14
f_qbit: Remove the screw and resolder.15:14
minuteqbit: then you can turn it up to the highest possible temperature and attach the soldered thread to the board again, if possible15:14
minuteqbit: also flux helps15:14
qbitminute: k, i wasn't sure if that was the "way"15:15
qbitthanks15:15
minuteqbit: and hold it with a tool, not fingers :D15:15
qbit:P15:15
qbitfigured15:15
minutegood luck!15:15
qbit"soldering is hard" -- someone with burnt fingers15:15
qbitty15:15
f_I need to improve my soldering skills15:16
qbitmine improved significantly when i purchased a decent iron15:16
qbitand stopped being afraid of flux15:16
f_I have a quite decent iron and station TBH15:17
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+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-202-40.home.otenet.gr)15:32
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- Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~linx@149.210.8.188)16:00
minutenew wl compositor library https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Louvre16:01
+ Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.8.188)16:01
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)16:05
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~quassel@64.189.201.150)16:24
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)16:26
+ pandora (uid585533@id-585533.ilkley.irccloud.com)16:43
+ eibachd (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)16:53
+ bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@h5.158.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)16:59
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- shdw (QUIT: Quit: shdw) (~shdw@ip-046-005-229-166.um12.pools.vodafone-ip.de)17:01
BoostisbetterI can't wait to get the Pocket. Really happy to see all the progress there. I am going to be using the Pocket so much! 17:16
BoostisbetterIt has the potential to put away so many things if I can get it working in my work flow well. So long as suspend is workable on it, I am positive it will meet and exceed my needs. 17:17
f_MNT Reform is so cool17:21
f_Only reason (for the most part) why I don't have one is..my current 2011 laptop still works :P17:21
f_OSHW is important to me, but e-waste is more important I think.17:22
- eibachd (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~eibachd@p200300dcf704e500c17df067bb57a516.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)17:44
+ eibachd (~eibachd@pd950939b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)18:12
+ klardotsh (~klardotsh@c-67-170-115-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)18:15
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BoostisbetterAgreed, use your computer until they just can't be repaired anymore. Linux makes using older hardware a no brainer. 18:49
f_Indeed.18:53
f_So I think I'll keep this computer for...a while18:53
f_it's also quite repairable, which I like; very much like reform18:54
+ bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153)18:56
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- bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~Thunderbi@45.134.140.153)19:08
Boostisbetterwhat laptop do you have by any chance? 19:31
f_hp elitebook 8560w19:33
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- flowy (PART: WeeChat 2.3) (~flowy@2a01:4f8:c0c:1a8f::1)19:53
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Boostisbetterso not sure if we have any Rob Braxman followers here, but I am curious about your thoughts on this:20:19
BoostisbetterWir wünschen Ihnen allen eine wunderbare, erbauliche und erholsame zweite Stunde und einen friedlichen Rest Ihres Sonntags.  20:19
Boostisbettersorry wrong paste20:19
Boostisbetterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKkZxyasHE20:19
Boostisbetterpersonally I doubt may of Rob's credentials. He seems very biased in someways as he is selling products utilizing some of the solutions he professes. 20:21
BoostisbetterBut in general I think his poitn here is legit. 20:21
BoostisbetterI do wonder though, how much Linux can really withstand legal precednece and laws that would be leveraged at it. I don't think it is invincible as he does. 20:22
Boostisbetteranyway just curious about what some of the security experts here might think. 20:22
minuteBoostisbetter: can you give the title of the video? what is it about? i don't know rob braxman.21:00
f_minute: Getting closer to SPL on g12b and sm1!21:04
f_I just *almost* got gxl to boot!21:04
f_DRAM init is all ok, just doing some MMC driver troubleshooting21:05
f_(but it does seem to work booting from SD)21:05
+ jacobk (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)21:21
Boostisbetterminute: Be a submersive with Linux. It is about countries enforcing content analysis at the OS level. The UK passed a law making MITM something built into the OS a law.21:23
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- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~quassel@47-186-95-57.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net)22:04
joschminute: maybe interesting for wayland reform: https://github.com/WayfireWM/wcm/22:31
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)23:08
minutef_: cool!23:23
- XYZ_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~XYZ@78-80-96-74.customers.tmcz.cz)23:29
f_minute: yup!23:47

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