2023-11-06.log

- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)00:19
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bkeysNo one here knows a lot about using libxml in C, right?01:24
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jfredHmm. I just tried building the latest LPC firmware on my Reform and the build seems to be failing https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FRHl8lYj/02:03
jfredWanted to get all my firmware up to date before attempting the a311d module swap02:06
Asmadeusjfred: iirc you need to set REFORM_MOTHERBOARD_REV yourself as the build system cannot guess which revision of the motherboard you're using (and the firmware needs to know as some circuitry changed)02:41
Asmadeussee reform2-lpc-fw/src/boards/reform2/board_reform2.c "don't forget to set this to the correct rev for your motherboard!"02:41
jfredAh!02:43
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jfredUpdated, my LPC firmware indeed must have been pretty out of date because the OS can now correctly detect battery charge state haha03:27
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joschjfred: awesome! :)07:21
joschhrm... but there is a big #ifndef REFORM_MOTHERBOARD_REV on top07:24
joschjfred: what does "git describe" tell you?07:25
joschah i see the problem07:28
joschjfred: would this output have been more helpful? https://paste.debian.net/1297287/07:38
joschthis is the MR for that https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/merge_requests/5307:41
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+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)09:41
minutejosch: thank you, merged09:56
joschminute: could you confirm whether the "blacklist raid456" workaround is still necessary when having the mdadm package installed?11:29
joschi just commented that out and rebooted and still have sound11:29
joschwell... my sound is broken but the respective snd_* modules load without problems11:30
joschmaybe we can drop this from /etc/modprobe.d/reform.conf?11:30
joschoh no wait...11:30
joschnope, problem is still gone11:35
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joschokay, so if you could comment out "blacklist raid456" in /etc/modprobe.d/reform.conf12:14
joschthen run "sudo apt install guestfish" -- this will install the package mdadm which in turn will install /etc/modprobe.d/mdadm.conf which attempts to load raid during boot12:14
joschthen regenerate the initramfs: "sudo update-initramfs -u"12:15
joschthen reboot12:15
joschif this problem is magically fixed, sound should still work12:15
joschi can only test this in sofar the modules are still all loaded and there are no "fsl-sai" problems in dmesg12:15
joschbut since my audio is borked, i cannot really make sure audio still works12:16
joschminute: if you could verify that my observation is correct, we could remove the workaround from /etc/modprobe.d/reform.conf12:16
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- Boostisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)12:50
jfredjosch: Yeah, that would have made it more clear what the issue was13:25
abortretryfailaudio broke? 14:07
joschabortretryfail: exactly one year ago to the day I installed guestfish on my reform14:16
joschabortretryfail: one of its (indirect) dependencies is mdadm which installs /etc/modprobe.d/mdadm.conf which in turn will load raid modules on boot14:17
joschabortretryfail: and that in turn resulted in this messages appearing in dmesg:14:17
josch      fsl-sai 308b0000.sai: Missing dma channel for stream: 014:17
josch      fsl-sai 308b0000.sai: ASoC: error at snd_soc_pcm_component_new on 308b0000.sai: -2214:17
josch      fsl-asoc-card sound: ASoC: can't create pcm HiFi :-2214:17
josch      fsl-asoc-card sound: error -EINVAL: snd_soc_register_card failed14:17
josch      fsl-asoc-card: probe of sound failed with error -2214:17
joschto prevent this, we added a line into /etc/modprobe.d/reform.conf that prevented the raid modules from being loaded14:18
joschraid isn't very useful on the reform anyways14:18
abortretryfailHuh, yeah it doesn't have enough places to plug in disks unless you're crazy and want to RAID usb sticks or something14:18
joschtoday i mentioned this problem in #debian-devel and somebody who knows their way around the kernel said "hang on, i have somebody with a MNT Reform in my office, lets try to fix this issue"14:18
abortretryfailbut... why would mdraid mess with the dma for the sound?14:19
abortretryfail:D14:19
joschso earlier today i tried to reproduce it and the problems seems to be gone14:19
abortretryfailI wonder what fixed it14:20
joschi do not have enough free-time to bisect this :)14:21
joschbut maybe somebody else (minute?) can confirm my observation and then we can remove this workaround from /etc/modprobe.d/reform.conf shipped by reform-tools14:21
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- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~quassel@129.110.242.224)16:39
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erlethis may sound stupid, but does someone here have a mod to prevent dirt getting inside the case?16:59
erlei have noticed that i have to be much more careful with my reform than with a thinkpad, because crumbs and random fluff that goes on the keyboard can go inside the computer much more easily17:00
erleand yes, i already know i should not use the reform at the beach while shaving myself with one hand and eating chips with the other one ^_^17:01
joscherle: i need those tips as well for my Casio EX-S77017:05
erlethat brought back memories17:05
EquillI don't have a solution, but I'm interested in one. I shouldn't drink and code, but you know how it is. Also, I have cats with ultra-fine fur that gets into supposedly sealed laptops - I'm going to have to vacuum-clean this one periodically.17:05
erlewell reform is not particularly sealed on the top17:06
erleif something gets under the keyboard below the bottom row, it can pretty much go anywhere ig17:06
erlei had not thought of drinking though17:06
joschi have the same problem at home (und das obwohl ich nichtmal in standnähe war) but i just regularly remove the bottom cover and with it all the dirt that accumulated on it17:07
+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)17:23
abortretryfailerle: i was toying with the idea of making a 3d printed drip-tray for the keyboard like the old Thinkpads have.17:25
abortretryfailBefore that though, I need to redesign the ball cup for the trackball so the sensor isn't directly at the bottom, collecting every fleck of dust17:25
minutechapeau https://mastodon.social/@arturo182/11136455624205337117:45
minuteabortretryfail: note that if the sensor is in another position, you might need two sensors or dewarp the input somehow17:46
sevanlol17:46
minute(math something something)17:47
sevanminute: just came to say we need a taller base for the reform, new CM adapter just dropped17:47
sevanhttps://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/111/364/559/231/839/344/original/91179089bb9b5747.jpg17:47
minutesevan: indeed17:47
minutethis is gloriously tentacled17:47
sevanlol17:47
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)17:48
erletall reform with cronenberg raspberry core17:55
sknebelso https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/111/364/560/520/553/562/original/4e3fbec43d1facf9.jpg but with reform-pinout instead of cm4 pinout ;)17:57
sknebelI like the "Just a meme" silkscreen label17:57
erlereality: chonky reform is not real, it can not be acquired. dreams: https://mister-muffin.de/p/sknC.jpg18:03
abortretryfailminute: yeah it would have to do some transformation in the firmware.18:13
- S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin)18:13
sknebelerle: can fit a full-size PCIe slot then too :P18:14
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)18:14
minuteit's all about time-to-market18:15
+ jacobk (~quassel@64.189.201.150)18:20
erlenothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come (chonky reform when)18:20
abortretryfailits not chonky enough for you?18:24
abortretryfailtbh, you could make a bolt-on that goes on the bottom with extra thiccness adding room for a RPi5 and a 2.5" SSD. :)18:25
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anzuHey, what's going on with the Reform sleeve availability? Apparently it ships in 1428572 weeks19:57
minutewoops20:07
minute:D20:07
minutei think black ones are sold out forever20:07
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abortretryfailThey ran out of black pineapples?21:57
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minuteabortretryfail: kinda. but we will also switch to a different design, probably early next year23:18
minutebrought the new pocket prototype home for the first time. pretty comfy even with the old software stack. antenna placement still a bit random23:25
minuteconnected to vodafone lte network today, worked fine23:26
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