2023-10-26.log

- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)00:34
+ jacobk (~quassel@59.sub-97-158-209.myvzw.com)00:36
abortretryfailhuh interesting... plugging in the DC jack on my Reform while SDR++ is running locks up SDR++. I wonder if there's a power spike that upsets the RTL-SDR dongle?01:07
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)01:36
- Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)01:42
BoostisbetterI'm curious is the any other browser on the Reform that avoids the new Youtube adblock crackdown? I only know of Brave. 02:19
- vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)02:33
- jacobk (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~quassel@59.sub-97-158-209.myvzw.com)02:38
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+ Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)04:24
abortretryfailyeah, yt-dlp then use clapper to play the file. :)04:48
- Ar|stote|is (QUIT: Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) (~linx@149.210.9.78)05:09
+ Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.9.78)05:09
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat242016.utdallas.edu)06:11
joschor, gtuber and then use clapper to stream the video without downloading it to disk :)06:26
joschor, with the a311d, yt-dlp but with a symlink from youtube-dl in $PATH to yt-dlp so that mpv can use it to stream directly06:35
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@utdpat242016.utdallas.edu)07:04
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+ doctorhoo (~doctorhoo@2a00:801:792:5f09:8366:957f:a89b:224e)07:08
+ jacobk (~quassel@64.189.201.150)08:06
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+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)08:40
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+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)08:52
minuteBoostisbetter: i have youtube premium and thus, no ads09:41
Boostisbetterminute: really? I guess paying for it would be a good thing if I don't want to see ads. They need to pay for the surfaces some how. I just wonder if they make more when I pay, or when I view ads? 09:43
- chartreuse (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~chartreus@S0106908d78501d1d.cg.shawcable.net)09:47
joschalso remember that without premium or with an adblocker, content creators will receive less money as far as i know09:47
Boostisbetteryep, they deserve to make some money for the effort they are putting into their videos. 09:47
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)09:48
+ chartreuse (~chartreus@S0106908d78501d1d.cg.shawcable.net)09:54
joschi had no idea a311d had a hardware decoder10:01
joschvkoskiv: i saw your messages over in #linux-amlogic10:01
Boostisbetterminute: I just signed up for premium. I always felt like YT was nasty, but seeing that they provide a way to use their services without the nasty is good. It should be rewarded, especially with how good a lot of the YT content is. 10:02
+ robin_ (~robin@user/terpri)10:55
- robin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri)10:56
vkoskivminute: Good news: I'm currently hardware decoding h264 on A311D 8)10:58
Boostisbettervkoskiv: woot!11:01
vkoskivBad news: It uses twice as much CPU than when software decoding :D11:06
vkoskivBut gist is, we're just missing the firmware blobs for the g12a decoder11:07
vkoskivWhich maybe could be turned into an optional package11:07
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)11:13
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* mark_ -> mjw11:28
vkoskivjosch: ^11:52
vkoskivWhoops, wrong chat11:52
minutevkoskiv: oh wow ok! not wrong chat i think?12:04
vkoskivI meant to draw josch's attention to a comment on the amlogic irc12:05
joschvkoskiv, minute: did one of you bring up suspend support for a311d in #linux-amlogic already?12:06
vkoskivI haven't12:08
vkoskivJust hwdec stuff12:08
minutei haven't invested time in suspend yet, no12:12
- iank (QUIT: Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in) (~iank@fsf/staff/iank)13:25
+ iank (~iank@fsf/staff/iank)13:26
Boostisbetterminute: do you have a percentage for how close we are to getting production run compenents on the Pocket going? no rush, just curious. 13:36
+ f_ (~f_@fases/developer/funderscore)13:45
- Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)14:00
Boostisbetterminute: also I just printed the keyboard reinforcement pieces. Is it possible to add to the Reform without removing the mainboard? 14:50
+ mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)15:33
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- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)15:41
abortretryfailfrom the pictures it looks like maybe you can just remove the keyboard15:49
- bkeys (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~Thunderbi@199.226-24.cm.ptn.tftn.dynamic.friendlycity.net)16:03
BoostisbetterI can't remember, but that can be remoed from the top right? 16:10
+ mjw (~mjw@188-206-68-6.mobile.kpn.net)16:14
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abortretryfailYeah. Probably wanna pull the batteries though just in case oyu drop a screw or a tool16:18
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- mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mjw@84.241.193.202)17:37
+ mjw (~mjw@84.241.193.202)17:38
minuteit looks like in deep sleep, the lpc on my reform resets roughly every 10 minutes17:51
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~mjw@84.241.193.202)17:52
- doctorhoo (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~doctorhoo@2a00:801:792:5f09:8366:957f:a89b:224e)18:00
+ doctorhoo (~doctorhoo@2001:2043:5e0f:a800:ee8d:9f9d:63e9:75dc)18:01
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+ doctorhoo (~doctorhoo@217-210-162-155-no600.tbcn.telia.com)18:10
minutelet it sleep again, (for ~30 minutes), woke it up and this time it showed uptime 9 seconds18:23
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minutehm > Remark: SRAM location 0x1000 0000 to 0x1000 0050 is not used by the bootloader and18:33
minutethe memory content in this area is retained during reset.18:33
+ erle (~erle@2a02:8109:da40:c4:61b:f316:70e3:db23)18:37
minuteLPC user manual chapter 20.14 describes a process called IAP (in application programming) https://seeeddoc.github.io/Seeeduino_Arch/res/LPC11UxxUserManual.pdf18:38
minutewith that it is possible to let the lpc flash itself18:38
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+ klardotsh (~klardotsh@c-67-170-115-80.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)19:05
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@64.189.201.150)19:11
minutei set the brownout voltage to the lowest possible value now and am also trying to bring back the low batt alert19:13
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)19:15
- doctorhoo (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~doctorhoo@2a00:801:792:5f09:8366:957f:a89b:224e)19:22
+ doctorhoo (~doctorhoo@2001:2043:5e0f:a800:1208:1c43:dc92:c327)19:22
jfredJust got my a311d module in the mail! Excited to try it out :)19:22
f_jfred: nice :)19:23
f_Another happy A311D Reform user!19:23
joschoh hello f_! I didn't know some of the #linux-amlogic people now moved over here :D19:24
f_just thought joining #mnt-reform was a good idea :D19:24
joschand congrats jfred! i hear it's quite an amazing platform in the reform :)19:24
joschjfred: my recent update to reform-tools (version 1.33) added lots of a311d specific stuff. Lukas didn't get to test that yet so please send on all bugs you find to me! :)19:25
f_The MNT Reform looks like a nice project so *shrug*19:25
abortretryfailminute: trying to solve the ???% problem? 19:26
f_josch: hm what's reform-tools?19:26
abortretryfailIf it's any help, I commented out the brownout setup and after a deep discharge, the battery meter has been totally reliable.19:26
jfredjosch: Is it mostly a drop-in replacement at this point? I.e. should I be able to use my existing OS image if I make sure it's up to date? The instruction sheet that was packed in mentioned a separate a311d image, but wondering if that's changed since19:27
abortretryfailI suspect the reset switch doesn't actually reset everything on the LPC, and it really requires a power removal for a cold boot 19:29
joschf_: reform-tools is a debian package that installs all files containing the reform-specific things like alsa configs, initramfs-hooks, udev rules, Xorg configs, modprobe blacklists and so on19:33
f_Thanks, just saw19:33
joschjfred: if your system is up to date, then yes you can keep it19:33
joschthe differences are only in /boot19:34
joschnamely the dtb selected by your boot.scr or extlinux.conf19:34
joschjfred: there is no written document yet on how to migrate but i think vkoskiv made some notes19:35
f_and what I said seems to have been used https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-a311d-uboot/-/blob/main/.gitlab-ci.yml?ref_type=heads here :)19:35
minuteabortretryfail: great, that's one more data point in that direction then19:36
joschf_: you mean the dd if=/dev/zero of=flash.bin bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc part?19:37
f_yeah19:38
joschyou were a great help -- i love that this all is now reproducible at least :)19:38
f_too bad aml_encrypt is proprietary19:38
f_Anyway I don't seem to recall seeing libre replacements writing random bytes like what aml_encrypt does19:39
f_They either write static content or disregard that part entirely.19:40
f_Usually these replacements do the job quite well, but some features (e.g. lz4 compression) are not implemented19:42
- doctorhoo (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~doctorhoo@2001:2043:5e0f:a800:1208:1c43:dc92:c327)19:45
+ doctorhoo (~doctorhoo@217-210-162-155-no600.tbcn.telia.com)19:45
f_but otherwise yeah they get the job done.19:45
+ jacobk (~quassel@129.110.242.224)20:07
+ Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)20:23
vkoskivjfred: I ran an apt upgrade, then after swapping the module, I booted from a fresh sd card, set up a chroot on my encrypted root volume and ran 'update-initramfs -u' and 'flash-kernel'20:48
vkoskivMight make sense to check stuff like /etc/flash-kernel/machine, not sure if that's still needed though20:48
vkoskivSomething happen with the reform apt repo? I got some extra output from 'apt upgrade'20:49
vkoskivN: Repository 'https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo reform Release' changed its 'Suite' value from '' to 'reform'20:49
- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a01:8f00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)20:49
joschvkoskiv: yes, that's a feature not a bug :)21:12
joschbefore, the value for "suite" of the MNT repository was  just empty21:13
joschso for example when you ran "apt list --upgradable" you would have a lot of entries that were listed like21:13
joschfoo/unknown 0.1 arm6421:14
joschand instead of "unknown" it will now say "reform"21:14
joschminute: i guess this is also something that would be important for you and not obvious from the diff you merged earlier ^21:14
+ reform3297 (~ehenter@dc7l34yyyyyyyyyyyygqy-3.rev.dnainternet.fi)21:16
vkoskivAh, cool!21:17
joschjfred: if you like and have time, maybe you can copy-paste step-by-step instructions when you do the migration? would be nice to have that i think :)21:18
joschvkoskiv: i think when you migrated yours other weird stuff happened and got you distrated :)21:19
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+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a01:8f00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)21:28
+ ehenter (~ehenter@82-181-225-23.bb.dnainternet.fi)21:28
ehenterhello from brand new ls1028a reform :)21:29
joschehenter: hello!! :D21:30
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+ mjw (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:30
joschehenter: did you convert your existing reform or did you have ls1028a from the start?21:31
ehenterjust wanted to pop in and say thank you for making this thing work so well21:31
ehenterjosch: new install21:31
joschehenter: actually the next thing i wanted to bring up was to please report bugs to me because ls1028a didn't get much testing yet XD21:31
joschi have a ls1028a as well but only put it in around three times for testing because i need hdmi output during the semester and i want the ls1028a in the rack reform with a second motherboard in the end :)21:32
ehenterI received this thing earlier today and just got it booting from sata ssd. it was kind of hard to make it boot from sd with encrypted root but I guess that I made some mistakes along the way21:32
joschdo you recall what exactly went wrong or have ideas what could be improved?21:33
ehenterwell, the default sd-card image was from 10.10.2023 and its reform helper scripts didn't like this som21:34
- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a01:8f00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)21:34
joschtrue, all that only got integrated with reform-tools 1.3321:35
joschehenter: what reform-tools version are you on now?21:35
ehenterwith newer image, I managed to run reform-setup-encrypted-nvme, but it exited in error state because reform-boot-config failed. and of course I did not save the output but it was something from LVM about "0 volumes active reformvg" or something like that21:36
joschoh hrm... that does not ring a bell...21:36
ehenterjosch: 1.3321:36
joschyou are on 1.33 and nothing exploded that's great :)21:37
ehenterwell, then I ran reform-boot-config manually but something got messed up and /etc/crypttab ended up containing wrong name for encrypted container21:38
- mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:38
+ mjw (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:38
ehenterbut manually opening that encrypted partition with luksopen solved that issue and then I manually ran update-initramfs and that solved everything in the end21:39
ehenterin summary, lack of documentation about how to do sata ssd installation was biggest problem21:40
+ wielaard (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:40
ehenterthat led me to try different things and figuring out stuff :D but it was kind of fun to do that 21:41
ehenterbtw, what kind of temps I should be expecting with ls1028a? currently I'm idling at 75C but I haven't seen it going over 78C even under load21:43
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:43
joschehenter: i had it as high as 86 but i think my heatsink was not placed 100% correctly21:43
ehenteroh :D21:45
- wielaard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)21:47
ehenterbtw, what is the difference between official image and reform.debian.net image? I tried to boot reform.debian.net images on my system but neither did not output anything on screen21:50
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat241106.utdallas.edu)21:52
joschehenter: wait *both* did not output anything onto your screen?21:53
joschat least the system image from mntre.com should work21:53
ehenterofficial image works, but reform.debian.net images not21:54
ehenterI tried both debian installer and system image with stable kernel21:55
joschah okay, thank you for testing!21:55
joschi didn't test those yet21:55
joschbut now i know they are broken XD21:55
joschehenter: if you find some time, could you maybe try the reform.debian.net images with the kernel from backports?21:56
ehenteryeah, no problem21:57
ehenterdebian installer or system image?21:57
joschthe system image please21:57
ehenternow I have sd-card ready to try that image. brb22:11
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minuteaww, great to hear about one more ls1028a22:23
minutewas deep in some 3d modeling for pocket reform22:24
+ ehenter (~ehenter@82-181-225-23.bb.dnainternet.fi)22:29
ehenterjosch: it boots and I have display output. but it enters in emergency mode and I can't do anything because my keyboard inputs do not work at all22:30
joschehenter: thank you for testing!22:31
joschthis might mean that the other images are also broken somehow22:31
joschi have to test that tomorrow22:32
ehenteryeah, hopefully that's not big issue22:32
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minuteok so lowest setting of brownout detect can still reset the lpc... it was now in ??? mode after bringing it home.23:13
minuteso i'm gonna turn that off and see how it goes. if there are no hangs, we'll leave it at that, otherwise we have to save the battery gauge in eeprom23:13
+ btfpy (~btfpy@46.0.130.64)23:27
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+ mjw (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)23:43
eerywell that's weird - got around to getting audio working on my A311D. Got the ALSA/pipewire level stuff working, but no devices showing up in pulseaudio23:49
- mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)23:49
eeryturns out I had to switch the 'configuration' in pavucontrol to "Pro Audio" and then the sinks show up o.O23:49
+ mjw (~mjw@dhcp-077-251-202-193.chello.nl)23:49
abortretryfailminute: I tried all 3 BOD levels and it did that with all of them, including with it disabled entirely.23:54
abortretryfailIt wasn't until an (accidental) cold-boot of the LPC that things sorted out.23:54
minuteabortretryfail: oh hmm.23:55
abortretryfailI'm not sure why, since the C code is pretty clear about assigning all the globals at define time... after a reset everything should be zeroed, right?23:56
abortretryfailUnfortunately I couldn't reproduce the problem anymore as I only have 1 Reform and its working now.23:57

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