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| josch | minute: is there a reason why the default .config/waybar/style.css does not include something like: | 09:56 |
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| josch | #workspaces button.urgent { background-color: #eb4d4b; } | 09:56 |
| josch | or is that just an oversight? | 09:56 |
| josch | in foot, [bell] urgent=yes enables sending urgency and highlighting the workspace where something requires attention in waybar | 10:11 |
| minute | josch: hmm, oversight i guess | 10:54 |
| josch | okay, i'll fix that then | 10:55 |
| josch | last year i was disappointed when i read online that wayland has no concept of window urgency so i ended up constantly switching to the workspaces where i have my chats open to check if anything happened. But it seems that sway supports receiving urgency signals through the XDG activation protocol which is what foot is doing now and which is also what other applications like thunderbird are doing. | 10:57 |
| josch | firefox uses it too | 10:59 |
| josch | xfceterm does not -- time to switch to foot everywhere XD | 11:00 |
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| grimmware | I feel like notifications and urgency are still like, an unsolved problem generally because there's a belief now that it's up to the computer to tell you what you should be spending your attention on at any given time. macOS likes to grab focus when I'm in the middle of doing things like typing passwords, it's fucking infuriating. | 12:11 |
| josch | stealing the focus is really bad, yes. Reminds me also of interfaces (web and native) where buttons get rendered only to change position after a second once more stuff of the ui gets rendered. As a result, when trying to click on the button I end up clicking on something else instead... | 12:16 |
| vkoskiv | I | 12:22 |
| vkoskiv | Whoops | 12:22 |
| vkoskiv | I've always just used irssi, but I get the feeling that something like WeChat/HipChat would feel more comfortable | 12:22 |
| vkoskiv | I never really properly learned many of the options here | 12:22 |
| vkoskiv | Opinions? | 12:22 |
| josch | i'm using irssi on one of my servers so that i can easily stay connected 24/7 | 12:24 |
| vkoskiv | Same, this is running on my webserver, which is mostly always on | 12:24 |
| vkoskiv | Surprising amount of power cuts on the premises, even with solar backup | 12:25 |
| vkoskiv | (it's an ancient xeon workstation at my parents' house) | 12:25 |
| vkoskiv | We haven't negotiated the SLA terms much :D | 12:25 |
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| minute | vkoskiv: i'm using weechat relay on one of my servers and glowing-bear.org as the frontend both on mobile and all computers | 12:45 |
| grimmware | josch: "Reminds me also of interfaces (web and native) where buttons get rendered only to change position after a second once more stuff of the ui gets rendered." I am incandescent with rage right now. It reminds me of that hot prickly feeling you get when you're already in a bad mood and then a bit of your clothing catches on a door handle and for a moment you stop to watch yourself make the | 13:02 |
| grimmware | decision as to whether you should just completely lose your shit or not. | 13:02 |
| grimmware | Every time that happens on my phone I stop for a second to gather myself so I don't yeet the thing out of the nearest closed window. | 13:02 |
| grimmware | vkoskiv: also using weechat here. How long are the power outages at your parents' place? If they're only short your easiest option might just be to get a cheap UPS. | 13:04 |
| vkoskiv | I had a cheap UPS, and then another one, but they all seemed to kill their batteries in under a year | 13:05 |
| vkoskiv | Too expensive to maintain | 13:05 |
| grimmware | ah fair | 13:05 |
| vkoskiv | Second one was a proper Eaton box with 4 big lead-acid batteries. | 13:05 |
| Boostisbetter | the thing that pisses me off about most UPS is how they don't have replaceable batteries | 13:05 |
| vkoskiv | No idea what it's doing with them, but they certainly don't charge anymore | 13:05 |
| vkoskiv | Eaton box has a door, and the batteries slide out | 13:06 |
| Boostisbetter | Do you recommend it? | 13:06 |
| grimmware | I use a VPS for my perma-online needs because it's not too expensive, preserves my privacy some and uptime has never been a problem. | 13:07 |
| vkoskiv | Given that it killed 4 brand new batteries in a few months, no :D | 13:07 |
| vkoskiv | I think mine was a 9130 or similar | 13:07 |
| vkoskiv | Eaton 9130, that is. Sourced second hand in unknown condition, could be that it's just broken somehow. | 13:08 |
| josch | vkoskiv:you killed lead-acid batteries? how? we give those to students all the time and they have a very hard time killing those and they do fine for many years | 13:10 |
| josch | i though lead-acid were the reliable robust sort :D | 13:10 |
| vkoskiv | Eaton engineers and/or the unknown fault in the UPS figured out how to do it! | 13:12 |
| vkoskiv | *Or* it's just a broken UPS, and the batteries are fine. We did test them, though! | 13:12 |
| Boostisbetter | probably the latter. Bummer either way. | 13:28 |
| josch | minute: and even more code for you to read https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/87 | 14:10 |
| minute | wow | 14:10 |
| josch | minute: both of the MR i sent you (for reform-debian-packages and reform-system-image) should not change the default behaviour | 14:10 |
| minute | ok cool | 14:10 |
| josch | they just add more functionality if the user passes the right environment variable or command line options | 14:10 |
| minute | ah, patches are split by kernel version | 14:11 |
| josch | for example, the benefit to MNT is, that you can now build linux from experimental just by changing an environment varable in the gitlab CI pipeline | 14:11 |
| josch | yes, that is necessary because unstable and experimental kernel patches will most likely differ | 14:12 |
| josch | ideally, there should never be more than three directories with patches | 14:12 |
| josch | two directories if there is no experimental version | 14:12 |
| josch | that way it's easier to test experimental kernels without messing with branches | 14:13 |
| josch | the change to reform-system-image benefits MNT as users can now tell mkimage.sh to only build an image for the platform(s) they have | 14:13 |
| josch | instead of wasting time to build for all three (or four once pocket comes out) | 14:14 |
| josch | screenshot of how this looks like in the web interface can be found in... wait... | 14:17 |
| josch | minute: you already merged? no critique? XD | 14:17 |
| minute | i just pressed the button!! | 14:32 |
| josch | well, if there should be bugs, i guess i'll hear of them :) | 14:33 |
| josch | s/if/when/; s/should be/are/ | 14:33 |
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| minute | we just had the reform next kickoff meeting with ana (industrial designer) | 17:53 |
| Boostisbetter | awesome! Ana is awesome designer! Her design was the main reason I first noticed the Reform to begin with. | 18:16 |
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| minute | https://ofourdan.blogspot.com/2023/10/xwayland-rootful-part1.html | 18:59 |
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| minute | josch: i made the requested tag https://github.com/mntmn/Firedecor/releases/tag/2023-10-23 | 20:02 |
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| josch | minute: thank you! | 22:22 |
| josch | minute: also about your merging of my reform-debian-packages changes: you can see that pipeline #1410 failed: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines | 22:23 |
| josch | so you might think "oh no, our code is broken" but behold, i clicked the "Run pipeline" button and in BASESUITE i put "testing" instead of unstable | 22:23 |
| josch | in contrast to unstable, testing has no multiarch version skews | 22:24 |
| josch | and with "testing" the pipeline run #1412 succeeded | 22:24 |
| josch | remember when in the past just a few weeks ago, we/you were blocked because of problems in unstable? | 22:24 |
| josch | you can now just re-run things in testing if you like | 22:24 |
| josch | without changes to any commits in the main branch | 22:25 |
| josch | profit! :D | 22:25 |
| minute | josch: ahh, very cool!! | 22:33 |
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