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| minute | vkoskiv: that's really cool @ oled | 00:09 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: yet another reason for me to update the oled | 06:43 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: "update" the oled? | 06:51 |
| josch | you mean updating the lpc or keyboard firmware? | 06:52 |
| Boostisbetter | Genau | 07:11 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: when you do, consider using my updated flash.sh scripts that guide you through the proces step by step. | 07:12 |
| josch | I'd like to get more people testing this to make sure the scripts are not buggy. | 07:12 |
| josch | vkoskiv: what does this print on your a311d? | 07:19 |
| josch | grep ^MemTotal: /proc/meminfo | { read x y z; echo $y; } | 07:19 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: 100% you know I will. | 07:35 |
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| vkoskiv | josch: Nothing, with just the grep, it's 'MemTotal: 3810528 kB' | 08:17 |
| josch | weird that the part after the pipe doesn't work in your shell | 08:19 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, just using bash here | 08:19 |
| josch | the construct is posix shell, so it should be fine in bash | 08:19 |
| vkoskiv | Not sure where ~370MB of RAM went :D | 08:20 |
| josch | (it works in dash, for example) | 08:20 |
| josch | 370MB? | 08:20 |
| vkoskiv | I know from experience, that booting linux with 32MB of RAM leaves about ~24MB usable | 08:20 |
| vkoskiv | This has 4GB in hardware, as far as I know | 08:20 |
| vkoskiv | But only 3.63GB usable. | 08:21 |
| josch | on imx8mq i get: | 08:21 |
| josch | MemTotal: 4024624 kB | 08:21 |
| vkoskiv | Hasn't been an issue so far, I don't think I've seen much swapping, if any | 08:21 |
| josch | yeah, 4 gb should be enough for everybody ;) | 08:21 |
| vkoskiv | The only thing I have to actively restrict on this system, is the amount of tabs in firefox | 08:21 |
| josch | oh? | 08:22 |
| vkoskiv | I'm a chronic tab hoarder in recovery | 08:22 |
| josch | same here but it seems to work out | 08:22 |
| josch | i'm using tabs instead of bookmarks and have thousands of them open that i search with the % | 08:22 |
| vkoskiv | I have 1000+ tabs open on desktop ff | 08:22 |
| josch | is there a way i can ask firefox how many i have open? | 08:22 |
| vkoskiv | 500 on mobile safari (that's the max limit (but you can open more in incognito mode in a pinch)) | 08:23 |
| vkoskiv | Yes, right click a tab, select 'select all tabs' | 08:23 |
| vkoskiv | Then right click a tab again, it shows you an option to close N tabs | 08:23 |
| vkoskiv | actually it shows 2232 now | 08:23 |
| vkoskiv | Although 90% are not resident in memory, and just load when I go back to them | 08:24 |
| josch | nice! | 08:24 |
| josch | 4273 | 08:24 |
| josch | yes, same | 08:24 |
| vkoskiv | I went through and closed about 50 recent ones, freed ~10GB of memory :D | 08:24 |
| vkoskiv | Would be interesting to find out if the 3.63GB memory limit on the A311D could be bumped up somehow | 08:24 |
| josch | minute: ^ | 08:25 |
| vkoskiv | I'm just gonna let the reform drain today while at work | 08:26 |
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| abortretryfail | my battery meter has been working perfectly ever since it did a full discharge a week and a half ago. no more ???% | 08:41 |
| vkoskiv | Shapeways offers a bunch of material options. Solid platinum trackball buttons! Or how about solid gold? | 08:56 |
| vkoskiv | Anyone wanna do a group by? Only $8000 a set! | 08:56 |
| vkoskiv | (I didn't actually look up the price yet) | 08:56 |
| vkoskiv | s/by/buy | 08:56 |
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| vkoskiv | Uptime 2:18, bat 62% | 10:33 |
| vkoskiv | Set up a log script now, in case I miss the shutdown later | 10:36 |
| josch | vkoskiv: i was pondering about some more reasonable material options for custom trackball buttons. Though I fear that the measurements of the trackball button 3D model is adjusted to work well for the resin printer used by MNT and will be slightly off in other situations. | 10:48 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, would need at least some prototypes before the expensive gold part | 10:49 |
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| abortretryfail | I have one printed in ABS because the original broke. As long as the printer is calibrated it'll fit correctly | 13:04 |
| abortretryfail | The tiny tabs that hold it to the switch seem to be the weak point. | 13:05 |
| josch | i was about to say that | 13:05 |
| josch | with pla and pet i was unable to print keycaps that would fit and not have their legs break all the time | 13:06 |
| abortretryfail | Did you print them flat or on their edge? | 13:06 |
| josch | the problem with printing them on the edge is the required support... | 13:07 |
| abortretryfail | Yep, mine required a support structure | 13:07 |
| abortretryfail | A friend of mine printed it and chose to do it this way after considering how the first ones failed | 13:08 |
| minute | stating the obvious, but you can also just use regular kailh choc keycaps with the trackball | 13:19 |
| josch | i think we are struggeling with the curved buttons not the rectangular ones :) | 13:19 |
| josch | the problem with the curved ones is, that they are much more prone to breaking as they are the ones that one needs to remove to clean the trackball | 13:19 |
| vkoskiv | Uptime 5:15, bat 14% | 13:30 |
| josch | vkoskiv: what is your screen bright ness during that time? | 13:30 |
| vkoskiv | 3 steps up from off | 13:31 |
| josch | that's a really nice runtime! :) | 13:31 |
| vkoskiv | Mostly idle with this test, ofc | 13:32 |
| vkoskiv | my figure from yesterday wasn't off by much, 9% now, runtime 5:32 | 13:47 |
| josch | vkoskiv: take note at what percentage your reform switches off | 13:51 |
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| josch | the older your cells, the higher the percentage | 13:51 |
| + violet (~vi@user/violet) | 13:51 | |
| vkoskiv | should be caught by my script | 13:53 |
| vkoskiv | it runs at a 5s interval | 13:54 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:01 | |
| - GNUmoon (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 14:06 | |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 14:08 | |
| josch | huh... my F11 key is broken... | 14:09 |
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| vkoskiv | Okay, back on the charger now. | 14:14 |
| vkoskiv | Final uptime, middle brightness on kbd and backlight, was 5:52 | 14:15 |
| vkoskiv | Mostly idling, occasionally checking on things and running a few cmds | 14:15 |
| vkoskiv | Battery gauge went back to ??? | 14:16 |
| abortretryfail | :( | 14:17 |
| josch | vkoskiv: yes, that's normal with the current lpc firmware | 14:18 |
| abortretryfail | I need to dig back into that LPC code, but since mine stopped doing it I've lost the motivation and been working on hibernate | 14:18 |
| vkoskiv | If I recall, the lpc does have access to some eeprom that could be used for storing that? | 14:18 |
| minute | josch: sorry about the firedecor junk and thanks for fixing it! | 14:19 |
| vkoskiv | abortretryfail: Interesting findings with hibernate, I'm also looking at suspend on A311D, but evidently you have more knowledge from the start here :D | 14:19 |
| josch | minute: sure thing :) | 14:19 |
| minute | vkoskiv: yeah lpc has internal flash | 14:19 |
| abortretryfail | oh i am stumbling blind | 14:19 |
| minute | vkoskiv: great uptime, what battery cells are you using? | 14:20 |
| vkoskiv | minute: Generic 1800mAh cells from here: https://akkula.fi/tuote/18650-lifepo4-1800-mah-32v-3c-akku-flat-top/ | 14:25 |
| minute | ah, enerpower | 14:26 |
| vkoskiv | Oh, yeah, it's there on the cell in all-caps :D | 14:26 |
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| josch | vkoskiv: https://mister-muffin.de/reform/cache.tar.xz | 15:19 |
| josch | vkoskiv: that's a tarball of the packages you need so that you can run this: | 15:19 |
| josch | mmdebstrap --variant=apt unstable /dev/null copy:///path/to/the/extracted/tarball/cache/debian | 15:20 |
| josch | vkoskiv: it will allow you to run the command from yesterday without network access | 15:20 |
| josch | make sure to run it multiple times so that everything gets into their respective caches | 15:20 |
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| [tj] | cool, crowd supply has dispatched a tshirt towards me | 15:43 |
| dozens | i would like it if crowd supply dispatched a pocket reform towards me | 15:55 |
| josch | dozens: small pocket reform updates are sometimes posted on MNT's mastodon. Here is the latest pocket content, for example: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/111216072653983755 | 16:17 |
| dozens | thanks for the hot tip! i was not following them, and now i am! | 16:18 |
| minute | https://invidious.slipfox.xyz/watch?v=T3u7bGgVspM | 16:32 |
| minute | (devine's talk at strangeloop) | 16:32 |
| abortretryfail | I've been watching this for the last 40 minutes :) | 16:39 |
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| dozens | i hear it's good! | 17:00 |
| dozens | at least, i keep seeing it shared around | 17:00 |
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| vkoskiv | Watched 10min, seems really interesting. My sauna turn is coming up in a few minutes, I'll watch the rest after | 17:54 |
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| abortretryfail | what's the most convenient way to get the serial console out of the Reform w/o always having the bottom cover off? I've had this thing precariously hanging partially off my desk with the flipper zero dangling off 3 jumpers while working on this hibernate issue. | 18:37 |
| sigrid | wiring it to the side panel is the best option if you can do it | 18:46 |
| minute | abortretryfail: for example taking one of the side covers up and feeding a cable through it, or lasercutting/printing a custom side panel | 18:46 |
| minute | up -> off | 18:46 |
| minute | yeah, what sigrid says | 18:46 |
| abortretryfail | hmm yeah that's a good idea | 18:46 |
| minute | btw one could also make a PCB in the shape of the side panel | 18:47 |
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| minute | we're doing that sort of stuff now with pocket reform | 18:47 |
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| abortretryfail | i just really don't want one of these popping out of the flipper and shorting against a battery pin | 18:47 |
| abortretryfail | That reminds me, I need to learn Inkscape and put that radius on the 2 top corners of the side panel... I tried before but got very confused. | 18:47 |
| minute | theoretically one could make a side panel pcb with a usb-c to uart converter chip..... | 18:47 |
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| abortretryfail | hm, or level shifters and a DE-9. :) | 19:29 |
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| josch | abortretryfail: i 3d printed my side panel and some parts for inside the reform that hold an uart adapter so that micro usb of the uart would be exposed to the outside through the side-panel | 19:33 |
| abortretryfail | nice | 19:35 |
| josch | abortretryfail: pictures and openscad models here: https://community.mnt.re/t/adding-lte-modem-and-other-usb-devices/1215 | 19:35 |
| josch | minute: i remember you musing with the idea to make the reform next have replaceable port-boards that one can switch to expose different things to the sides -- i think that's an amazing idea :) | 19:37 |
| minute | josch: yes yes | 19:38 |
| abortretryfail | josch: any issues with the power supply circuitry getting too hot with all of that gadgetry on top of it? | 19:53 |
| Boostisbetter | abortretryfail: great question. I would say no, because he has had it for a while, and since suspend doesn't work on his Reform it is either on or off, and I imagine it is off quite a bit. | 19:58 |
| Boostisbetter | but that is just what I have gathered in my discusions with the professor | 19:59 |
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| josch | abortretryfail: i haven't had any issues in that regard | 20:45 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: the opposite -- it is on 24/7 | 20:45 |
| josch | i have 11 workspaces open with stuff | 20:47 |
| josch | it would be very annoying to restore the state of all of that every morning again and again | 20:47 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: i'm not a professor, just a lecturer | 20:48 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: apologies. But you have phd correct? | 21:07 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: I always wonder how many workspaces people have open. I usually have 6 open, but can get up to 9. | 21:08 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: are you using sway as well? | 21:08 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: yes phd (but it really does not matter) and yes sway | 21:25 |
| josch | i have the 0 and the - key for two more workspaces than the default 9 | 21:26 |
| josch | i used awesomewm before so i feel right at home with sway | 21:29 |
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| josch | since one thing i liked a lot about awesomewm was that it would automatically do the layouting for me, i'm using autotiling with sway: https://github.com/nwg-piotr/autotiling | 21:33 |
| josch | that way, when opening a new window, it will automatically choose whether to split the currently focused window horizontally or vertically to make space for the new window | 21:34 |
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