2023-10-08.log

- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~quassel@129.110.242.224)00:06
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat241106.utdallas.edu)00:16
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+ stites (~stites@130.44.147.204)00:27
+ eery (~eery@h210.3.55.139.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)00:50
minutevkoskiv: great work with the backlight! i will test it on monday the latest00:50
minutealso the fade sounds awesome00:51
vkoskivYeah, just required more changes than I'm immediately comfortable with :D01:01
- aliosablack (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a24:b000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)01:03
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)01:07
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~quassel@utdpat241106.utdallas.edu)01:15
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)02:03
eeryhmmm, no 4k@60Hz video on the A311D's HDMI, complains about invalid vclk02:15
- robin (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~robin@user/terpri)02:25
minuteeery: there's a patch in the patchstack which disables 4k because there was always a crash related to scrambling. not sure if it's required anymore. you could ask in #linux-amlogic02:27
+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)02:28
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)02:43
vkoskivI wonder what the errors on the sn65 were before these returns were slapped in here03:03
- nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~nicolas@84-97-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:05
+ nsc (~nicolas@13-49-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)03:07
eeryminute: all 4k? The 30Hz mode was working fine03:08
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+ nsc (~nicolas@201-98-142-46.pool.kielnet.net)04:04
+ mtm (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)04:09
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- ec0 (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~ec0@vps-446f4f39.vps.ovh.ca)06:54
minutevkoskiv: after any mode change or exiting sway, display would be lost (dp pll lock failed or sth)12:31
+ aliosablack (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a24:b000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)12:35
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)12:44
- Boostisbetter (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)13:09
vkoskivAh, so without this current patch to the module, even exiting sway would make it go oopsie14:01
vkoskivGot it14:01
vkoskivThe -110 errors are just timeouts, meaning the device is asleep/dead at that point14:03
vkoskivSo something still gets turned off that shouldn't14:03
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)14:04
vkoskivI guess there are several issues, since the serial console also freezes after it comes up from suspend14:05
+ Boostisbetter (4a410829d7@irc.cheogram.com)14:21
vkoskivOpinions on this:15:14
vkoskivvkoskiv@reform:~$ cat /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-mnt-reform2-hidraw.rules 15:14
vkoskivSUBSYSTEM=="hidraw", ATTRS{idVendor}=="03eb", ATTRS{manufacturer}=="MNT", MODE="0666"15:14
vkoskivI guess this makes it so any process could send PWR0 to the keyboard, which may not be ideal15:16
vkoskivI'm trying to think of how to daemonize my project, so far I just run it as root, and the code drops root right after it opens the hidraw device. But I don't know how to do that with systemd15:17
vkoskivI just don't want my code running with root privileges, it doesn't need to after it has that file open.15:22
- stites (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (~stites@130.44.147.204)15:38
+ stites (~stites@2607:fb91:dc9:9458:e307:804f:f7f3:4cb1)15:38
Boostisbetterminute: is it possible to have the trackball LEDs turn on when the keyboard backlight is turned on?15:42
vkoskivThe lights can be controlled via hidraw commands, I wrote a thing to control them15:43
Boostisbettercould you share the command here, I'll put it in a script, and make a keyboard shortcut in sway for it. 15:43
vkoskivecho -n "xLEDS11111" > /dev/hidraw215:44
vkoskivI actually wrote a C program to do it, but simple echo does it15:45
vkoskivChange 1s to zeroes to select the light15:45
vkoskivor rather, select on/off15:45
BoostisbetterI'm getting permission denied even with sudo15:45
vkoskivOh, maybe that's why I wrote the program...15:45
vkoskivI just started messing with udev rules to fix that issue15:46
vkoskivI guess then sudo bash -c 'echo -n "xLEDS11111" > /dev/hidraw2'15:46
Boostisbetteryeah doesn't turn on the leds for the trackball though. hmmm, weird. 15:47
vkoskivHm, the /dev/hidraw* file might be wrong15:48
vkoskivI have a script that finds the right one15:48
Boostisbettervkoskiv: your Reform must be awesome with all of the custamizations you have going on with it. 15:49
vkoskivHoping to share The Big One soon-ish :D15:49
vkoskivHmm. looks like mister-muffin.de/paste stopped working15:50
vkoskivIt just gives me an empty file back15:50
vkoskivhttps://pastebin.com/EhG6tw8k15:51
vkoskivThat prints out a nice list of hidraw->device pairs15:51
vkoskivI don't know why the keyboard shows up twice15:51
vkoskivBoth hidraw devices for the kbd seem to work equally fine15:52
+ mtm (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)16:10
- ggoes (QUIT: Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)16:23
+ ggoes (~gregf@fsf/staff/ggoes)16:23
BoostisbetterBingo in my case, the trackball leds are hidraw017:07
+ jacobk (~quassel@64.189.201.150)17:08
+ mogglefrungle (~user@156.146.98.3)17:09
erlewow what trackball LEDs control?17:10
- stites (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~stites@2607:fb91:dc9:9458:e307:804f:f7f3:4cb1)17:15
BoostisbetterI want to turn the trackball LEDs on when I turn on the keyboard backlight. 17:15
+ stites (~stites@130.44.147.204)17:16
BoostisbetterNow just need to figure out brightness controll, because when they are on, they are blindingly bright. Hahahaha17:18
joschvkoskiv: did you find a bug in mister-muffin.de/paste?17:23
vkoskivjosch: https://mister-muffin.de/p/YUke17:25
vkoskivEmpty file17:25
joschvkoskiv: what did you try to upload?17:26
joschis it reproducible?17:26
vkoskivI just cat a bash script in the usual way, I then put the same content to that pastebin above17:26
vkoskivUnrelated, I think the wifi errors in dmesg need investigating, I sometimes get a dropped connection, but networkmanager still thinks the connection is there17:26
joschvkoskiv: i can reproduce it, thank you!17:27
vkoskivCool!17:27
Boostisbetternetworkmanager has a way of thinking a connection is good on the Librem 5 as well when it is, in fact, no longer present or disconnected. So interesting to see something here on wifi as well. 17:28
vkoskivAlso unrelated, I'm preparing for when I'll package my program into a debian package. So many questions :D17:28
vkoskivWhere to put my binaries? Do I just make an install target in my makefile and use checkinstall or make the package manually? Can I install a user-local systemd service without the user having to copy it from /etc/skel?17:29
vkoskivSo far I've settled on an install target that installs a service under /etc for all users, and the udev rule I showed earlier17:31
vkoskivBut then what user to use for the systemd service? daemon? nobody? Create a new user and deal with all that?17:32
joschvkoskiv: as the upstream developer of a piece of software, it is often best not to think of distro X because they mostly all end up doing something different anyways17:33
joschfor example installing systemd services is usually done by the dh_installsystemd helper of debhelper. Some distros will install those to /usr some will install those to /lib. You cannot know this in advance.17:34
vkoskivI am exclusively focusing on SysV4 here17:34
vkoskivThis package has largely no use elsewhere17:34
vkoskivCould be ported, but this is a reform-specific tool for now.17:35
joschsysv4.... hrm... this naming will become confusing once we are at sysv5 :)17:35
joschvkoskiv: if it is reform-specific, does it make sense to let reform-tools build it?17:36
- mogglefrungle (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~user@156.146.98.3)17:38
+ mogglefrungle (~user@156.146.98.3)17:40
vkoskivIt might, yeah.17:44
joschminute: the recent reform-debian-packages pipeline failed because of a build failure in wayfire: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/2289/raw17:47
- mogglefrungle (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~user@156.146.98.3)17:52
+ mogglefrungle (~user@156.146.98.3)17:56
vkoskivudev is quite something18:15
+ IchikaZou (~IchikaZou@36-231-76-229.dynamic-ip.hinet.net)18:25
- IchikaZou (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~IchikaZou@36-231-76-229.dynamic-ip.hinet.net)18:37
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+ IchikaZou (~IchikaZou@36-231-76-229.dynamic-ip.hinet.net)18:49
IchikaZouRaspberry pi 5 really has some amazing performance, maybe I could replace my amd64 laptop with arm64 in future.18:51
BoostisbetterI am continually impressed with the Reform's performance on the stock IMX8 chip. I think there is a performance bump on the Pocket, but in general, I haven't really found myself wanting really. The NVME makes all the difference though. Fast swap is crucial. 18:55
+ mogglefrungle (~user@156.146.98.3)19:00
IchikaZouI haven’t had a chance to experience IMX8 series chip, I do hope pocket reform with IMX8P has enough performance can replace my current laptop. My back start really feels the weight of my laptop as my age passed 40.19:01
+ eery (~eery@139.55.3.210)19:11
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- eery (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~eery@139.55.3.210)19:17
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+ mogglefrungle (~user@156.146.98.3)19:56
Boostisbetterout of curiosity what is your current laptop? 19:58
- mogglefrungle (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~user@156.146.98.3)20:18
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+ Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.32.204)20:28
+ mogglebundr (~user@156.146.98.3)20:58
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)21:01
minutejosch: ah, we should pin wayfire to a previous commit21:07
+ reform19838 (~josch@ip1f12fe3b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)21:17
- reform19838 (QUIT: Client Quit) (~josch@ip1f12fe3b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)21:17
joschminute: you are using xhost in reform-synaptic -- should reform-tools depend on x11-xserver-utils even though everything else is wayland?21:21
minutejosch: i guess so, because there's no other way to use synaptic21:21
joschkk21:21
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- mogglebundr (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~user@156.146.98.3)22:01
+ mogglebundr (~user@156.146.98.3)22:01
joschwhat happens when you visit this website with firefox and javascript enabled on the imx8mq: https://service.berlin.de/standort/317869/22:03
joschthe graphical glitches are trippy and worrisome22:04
joscha blind ctrl+w closes the tab and restores graphics22:04
pandoraI found a link about the "MNT Reform Next" . Is this someones personal hack or is this a genuine MNT product?22:43
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~quassel@64.189.201.150)23:00
- mogglebundr (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~user@156.146.98.3)23:04
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat241106.utdallas.edu)23:15
erlejosch have a screenshot … and any idea what happen?23:20
+ mogglebundr (~user@156.146.98.3)23:29
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+ ephase (~ephase@2a01:e0a:2a:5300:f8d4:1fb6:b769:4362)23:41
ephaseHi!23:42
ephaseHello josch, my Reform work withg reform-tools 1.31! thanks a lot.23:43
- aliosablack (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a24:b000:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)23:43
ephasejosch: and iwd seems to work23:43

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