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| minute | josch: hmmm ok, we need a better option to change the cmdline then | 00:20 |
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| josch | minute: theoretically, since boot.scr is shell-like, we could use /usr/share/flash-kernel/ubootenv.d/00reform2_ubootenv to append arbitrary stuff to ${bootargs} | 05:52 |
| josch | but i don't know how smart that is, so i'll ask vagrant next time they are online | 05:52 |
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| minute | josch: ok! | 10:05 |
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| eery | does the v3 keyboard layout have any key combos mapped to page up/down by default? | 13:27 |
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| minute | eery: unfortunately not, but we should really add that here https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/blob/master/reform2-keyboard-fw/matrix_3.h?ref_type=heads#L55 | 14:47 |
| minute | eery: i think hyper+cursors should yield home/pgup/pgdn/end | 14:47 |
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| eery | minute: ah, cool, seems easy enough | 14:51 |
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| abortretryfail | I think the only thing I'd miss from that would be the ability to pgup/pgdn with one hand. :) | 18:58 |
| abortretryfail | ACTION has no horse in this race however, my keyboard is v2 with the weirdo alts in the middle | 18:59 |
| josch | i find it hard to remember which key is page-up and which is page-down when they are next to each other | 19:07 |
| josch | the problem with a key combo for page-up/down are programs that require a combo with page-up/down | 19:07 |
| josch | then you'd have to hit three keys instead of two | 19:07 |
| josch | but i don't have a solution | 19:08 |
| josch | (for example terminal scrolling is often shift+pageup/down) | 19:08 |
| abortretryfail | Shift isn't so hard to reach with another finger. | 19:09 |
| minute | [ 69.617518] cdns-mhdp-imx f200000.display: firmware: direct-loading firmware mhdpfw.bin | 19:12 |
| minute | [ 69.626485] [drm] Requested MHDP firmware | 19:12 |
| minute | [ 69.644994] [drm] Loaded MHDP firmware | 19:12 |
| minute | [ 69.648784] [drm] Started MHDP firmware | 19:12 |
| minute | [ 69.653681] [drm] HDP FW Version - ver 23029 verlib 20560 | 19:12 |
| minute | ok, finally managed to load the mhdp firmware from linux instead of uboot (on ls1028a) | 19:12 |
| josch | minute: is there an advantage to loading it later during boot? | 19:18 |
| minute | josch: yes, being able to use mainline uboot | 19:19 |
| minute | josch: otherwise i would have to import a huge amount of vendor code into uboot | 19:19 |
| josch | ah okay | 19:19 |
| minute | and the loading code was already there in the patch for linux, it was just buggy | 19:19 |
| minute | debian mesa is missing this one https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/blob/main/src/gallium/targets/dri/meson.build#L82 | 19:39 |
| minute | i'll work around it in the driver, but strange | 19:39 |
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| josch | minute: i see that line here: https://sources.debian.org/src/mesa/23.2.0~rc3-1/src/gallium/targets/dri/meson.build/#L81 | 20:15 |
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| kws | does the US crowd supply stock have the new keyboard, protected battery board and steel port covers? | 20:25 |
| minute | josch: hmm, maybe it's in a separate package? | 20:29 |
| minute | [ 67.472514] mali-dp f080000.display: [drm] fb0: imx-drmdrmfb frame buffer device | 20:30 |
| minute | ok, i have a display with weston. but internal display cable needs a choke | 20:49 |
| - jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~quassel@utdpat242016.utdallas.edu) | 20:53 | |
| minute | it's funny that the display doesn't work when using its own EDID settings | 20:53 |
| minute | only issue left: it gets very hot. might need a bigger heatsink, but haven't tried inside the case and conducting to the aluminum case yet | 21:13 |
| minute | in worst case we need to add a little fan :0 | 21:14 |
| violet | is it doing processor frequency scaling? | 21:28 |
| minute | yes, even down to 300mhz | 21:28 |
| minute | maybe it's something else in the chip that's so hot | 21:28 |
| minute | in RCW (reset configuration word) one can hard-disable IP blocks, worth a look | 21:29 |
| minute | for example, it contains a ethernet switch engine and another 2.5gb PHY that we don't use | 21:29 |
| violet | yeah makes a lot of sense to try and turn that stuff off | 21:29 |
| minute | at the moment the full system can consume up to 18W | 21:30 |
| minute | (incl screen) | 21:30 |
| violet | how's that compare to the imx8q | 21:31 |
| minute | i think the imx8mq system is maxing out at maybe 12W, need to double check | 21:31 |
| minute | but it's fun how 16GB ram feels kind of immense vs 4GB | 21:33 |
| minute | feels like infinite lol | 21:33 |
| violet | yeah for real | 21:33 |
| minute | and the Cortex-A72 is definitely snappier than the A53 | 21:34 |
| minute | even with only 2 cores | 21:34 |
| violet | i never run out on my x220 with 16GB | 21:34 |
| minute | i don't know if there is any other oshw board with these kind of resources | 21:34 |
| minute | maybe the laptop board that system76 are trying to do, but it's not done | 21:35 |
| unixpoet | yeah, the system76 virgo is still pretty early | 21:36 |
| violet | aside from that the closest might be whenever pine gets around to doing their rk3388 board. but i also dont really consider that fully open source since iirc they release the schematic pdf but not the actual pcb files | 21:38 |
| minute | violet: hmm, pine hasn't released any OSHW as far as i know | 21:40 |
| minute | i mean, you can get the schematics for apple hardware... :D | 21:40 |
| minute | (if you look closely) | 21:40 |
| violet | hahahahahahha | 21:40 |
| violet | yeah i had to go double check. they're so borderline to being fully open source but never go all the way with it, its weird | 21:41 |
| violet | just upload the files!!! | 21:41 |
| violet | haha | 21:41 |
| minute | probably they also use an uncommon PCB EDA software like orcad or sth | 21:41 |
| minute | i mean uncommon for open source | 21:41 |
| minute | maybe even altium | 21:41 |
| violet | gods i cant imagine pine having budget for altium given how razor thin to the margins they seem to price things | 21:42 |
| violet | but maybe! | 21:42 |
| violet | altium just seems so ludicrously expensive | 21:42 |
| minute | yeah, rbz made the ls1028a module in altium but i can open it in kicad | 21:43 |
| minute | i did that ~a lot~ to debug things | 21:43 |
| violet | i bet that a72 could actually handle google meet -.- | 21:46 |
| violet | i tried using google meet today but it couldn't handle transmitting without breaking up. which is like. come on we've had voip on computers working since pentiums that were slower than this!! | 21:46 |
| violet | (and Discord manages to work just fine so, google skill issue i guess) | 21:47 |
| violet | i kind of wonder if its related to i think debian doesnt build chromium with their "hangouts" plugin the way some other distros do. and i know meet uses that. so maybe they just lean on that for anything working at a reasonable speed, idk what all it does | 21:49 |
| minute | weird @ voice | 21:50 |
| minute | maybe it falls back to encoding it with javascript or something... | 21:51 |
| violet | yeah thats what im wondering... which would be really weird because webrtc like, does this. but google definitely has a precedent for inventing a web standard and then not actually using it to its most in their own stuff | 21:52 |
| violet | some time later ill grab a build that has the hangouts plugin built in and see if it runs any different | 21:53 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 21:58 | |
| unixpoet | violet: did you mean pine64's rk3588 board? afaik they don't have an rk3388 board under development | 23:07 |
| unixpoet | also I don't think there even is an rk3388 | 23:08 |
| - kws (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (3596bb3a9b@2604:bf00:561:2000::43f) | 23:11 | |
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