2023-09-06.log

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baconforfeetHi! Back in 07:48
baconforfeetJuly I upgraded via apt and broke something...my Reform has been in a drawer since and I am trying to recover it now but have forgotten what the heck to do! https://imgur.com/a/8yL8Tco07:49
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baconforfeetfirst image is booting from internal MMC, second is from latest system image on an SD card07:50
baconforfeetis some lovely person able to help me out please? :)07:50
baconforfeetI would quite like to recover the files on the NVME but if that's no good I'd also be happy with completely reseting it to "factory" defaults across the board07:52
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joschbaconforfeet: "card did not respond to voltage select" sounds like a problem with your sd-card? did you try another?08:01
joschyeah, the second looks even more strongly like an sd-card the reform does not like08:02
baconforfeetjosch: that's from the first image without an SD card inserted as I was previously booting from NVME08:02
baconforfeetI have tried a few SD cards with latest system image and SoM DIP set to boot off external MMC yeah08:04
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joschbaconforfeet: you are right, that error in the first image points to mmc0 which is your emmc08:06
joschbaconforfeet: i think your best way forward will be to boot a rescue system from sd-card08:06
joschso we should find a way to make this work08:06
joschusing the rescue system on sd-card you can then rescue the data on your nvme08:07
joschand you can reset your emmc to factory defaults08:07
baconforfeetso, SoM dip toggled to to sd-card, write rescue image to SD card and just boot off that? Can do! :)08:07
joschbaconforfeet: the SoM switch only decides where u-boot comes from -- it does not influence whether u-boot then loads a system from sd-card or emmc08:08
baconforfeetah, silly me08:08
joschno worries, this *is* confusing08:08
joschbaconforfeet: in case it helps i wrote up a small text on this with photos: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/-/issues/208:08
joschmaybe this helps to make sure your SoM switch is in the right position08:08
joschbut the position of the SoM swtich only should matter if your u-boot on emmc is very old08:09
joschif you have a recent u-boot on your emmc, then the u-boot on your sd-card will be identical and hence the dip switch position will have no effect08:09
baconforfeetah! thankyou! I went looking for that page as you've linked me to it before (last time I broken my Reform doing apt upgrade!) didn't look at the issue tracker08:09
joschif you don't know what u-boot you have on emmc, then the safer option is to set it to load u-boot from sd-card08:09
baconforfeetthanks mate, I'll give it a go shortly and get back to you08:10
joschtake your time, i'm afk for ~1 hour08:10
baconforfeetyou're a star :)08:10
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HamSolojosch: I'm a little stumped by this! I've tried with several SD cards and get same result shown by the images here. SoM DIP set to ON, so uboot coming from SD card. It seems to boot just fine, loads a kernel etc then...drops me in the busybox shell after a bunch of kernel errors about mmc1. https://imgur.com/a/mmbhAFU09:25
HamSolowait why am I HamSolo now09:25
joschno worries, i was able to make the ham<->bacon connection :D09:25
HamSoloanyway, every attempt so far has used the latest images at https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1769/artifacts/browse09:26
joschhrm... if you have this problem with multple sd-cards then that's indeed odd09:26
joschlet me download that and try myself09:26
HamSolojosch: I even tried plugging the SD card writer into a different computer09:26
HamSolothanks :)09:26
HamSoloI've got to get started making dinner, will be around though09:27
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joschHamSolo: the image behind that link boots fine for me09:43
HamSolonooooo09:43
HamSoloI could try a different SD card writer09:43
HamSoloit's weird...if the SD card reader in the Reform was broken I wouldn't expect it to get even as far as it is09:44
joschHamSolo: the first one reading the sd-card is the SoM itself to load u-boot. Then u-boot reads the sd-card again to read boot.src, kernel and initrd09:45
joschand then linux again reads the sd-card to mount the second partition on it for the rootfs09:46
joschthe first two seem to work but then linux fails09:46
joschthough i'm also puzzled by your other error messages in your first photo: "card did not respond to voltage select", "timeout.. irqstat=108001, do you need ESDHCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_TIMEOUT_VALUE", "device 0: unknown device"09:48
joschwait... do you have anything plugged in via usb?09:48
josch"usb device not accepting new address (error=80000000)"09:49
HamSolonothing plugged in via USB, no09:49
josch"device not responding to set address"09:49
HamSolojust the built in keyboard and mouse09:50
joschi think maybe minute should have a look: https://imgur.com/a/mmbhAFU https://imgur.com/a/8yL8Tco09:51
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HamSolojosch: when I remove the NVME the Reform's screen doesn't even turn on?!10:14
HamSolohmmm, is there something wrong with the dtbs on the SoM partition? or is that not even a factor here10:15
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joschHamSolo: in your screenshots you can see an older (but new-enough) u-boot from 2023-01-25 -- that is from your emmc10:21
joschand the most recent u-boot 2023-07-04 which comes from your sd-card10:21
joschthis means that neither nvme nor emmc should influence your boot because you successfully load a newer u-boot from your sd-card10:22
joschand as you can see in the u-boot log, it's using mmc1, which is the sd-card for booting10:22
HamSologremlins10:23
joschlater on in your linux log it again talks about mmcblk1 which is your sd-card10:23
joschbut then fails with an i/o error10:23
joschHamSolo: did this work in the past?10:23
minuteHamSolo: i just wanted to ask the same, is this a reform you recently got?10:24
minuteah, you said it broke in july if i interpret correctly?10:25
HamSoloI was booting it from SD card for about 6 months after I first got it, before switching to NVME & encryption. I've had it for quite some time now, this is DIY #00012010:26
HamSolominute: yeah, July after an `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade`, didn't have time to investigate further then10:27
HamSoloI think I've had this for at least 18 months, don't really remember10:28
HamSolonew battery boards installed at start of year10:28
minuteHamSolo: maybe there is something up with the som, or 1.8v rail on the motherboard. if it's less than 24 months old we can also make a warranty repair10:29
minuteHamSolo: if you want to send it in, you can write to support@mntre.com10:31
HamSolominute: looks like CrowdSupply sent it in April 2022 so that's an option. Do you think there's no way for me to debug further?10:31
HamSoloI was going to order the CM4 adapter next month maybe that could be combined :) *nervous laughter*10:32
minuteHamSolo: you can try the ol' disassemble, clean som contacts, put back together, also measure if all voltages on the board look good (esp 1.8v, 3.3v)10:44
HamSolominute: OK thanks, I'll do as you suggest and if nothing changes I'll reach out to support@mntre.com in the next day or two10:46
HamSolowill my stickers be safe?10:47
minuteHamSolo: i will personally do the repair and ensure the safety of your stickers10:53
HamSolominute: <310:55
joschminute: i built myself a system image using the latest wayfire pipeline results of reform-debian-packages and it boots fine. I think there might be some fonts missing because the battery icon in waybar only shows up as a unicode placeholder and maybe the wofi config is somehow not picked up because it shows up light-gray while it should be black, right?11:05
joschminute: maybe we could also start installing u-boot-menu by default so that extlinux.conf is used instead of boot.src?11:06
josch*boot.scr11:06
joschmaybe it makes sense to have grim installed (14k install size) so that users can take screenshots11:07
minutejosch: oh cool, thanks for your testing. grim and slurp must be installed, those are missing in the list then11:13
minutejosch: about u-boot-menu, how can i test that?11:14
minutealso, no graphical uboot yet with a311d *sobs*11:14
minutejosch: does wayfire work for you on imx8mq?11:14
joschminute: yes, wayfire worked11:15
joschi didn't test sway11:15
joschi thought you had already tested wayfire on imx! :D11:15
minutelast night at home i found another cosmetic bug in wayfire (title bar damage areas have some bug)11:15
minutejosch: yes, but not my latest builds!11:15
joschminute: to enable u-boot-menu, just install it11:15
joschminute: reform-tools ships with the config that it needs to pick up the right arguments11:16
joschBUT11:16
joschi just saw that the kernel cmdline is different between imx8mq and a311d11:16
minutejosch: yes11:16
joschconsole=ttyAML0,115200 vs console=ttymxc0,11520011:16
minutewe could try to unite it, but that's more fiddly testing11:16
minutejosch: not only that. there's a bunch more stuff for a311d11:16
joschthen don't enable u-boot-menu11:17
minutejosch: did you use some kind of automation for building the image with the results of a branch of reform-debian-packages?11:17
joschbecause reform-tools installs /usr/share/u-boot-menu/conf.d/reform.conf11:17
joschand that is specific to imx8mq right now11:18
minuteok, so we will update that a bit later11:18
joschminute: i just used the scripts of reform-system-image but used the repo created by CI instead of the one on mntre11:18
minutejosch: do you have a paste/diff that i could use to replicate that? (would save me some time)11:19
joschminute: https://paste.debian.net/1291111/11:19
minutejosch: perfect, thanks!!11:19
joschyou're welcome :)11:19
joschit's a bother that to get the artifacts from the latest pipeline instead of a specific job, a ?job=XXX needs to be appended to the url11:19
joschthat's why this trick only works if you know the job number11:20
joschso it's enough for testing things11:20
joschi like how simple mkimage.sh became now -- very nice!11:24
joschminute: if you add https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-a311d-uboot then i would move the bits from the a311d mkimage.sh over to a CI job so that u-boot gets built there and can be downloaded like we do from reform-boundary-uboot11:27
minutejosch: ok cool, will do that later11:28
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joschthanks! this will not only be useful for reform-system-image but also for reform-flash-uboot which should do the right thing on a311d11:34
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grimmwaremorning12:33
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joschminute: in the reform2-a311d directory you committed flash.bin to git but not the files in the boot directoy -- could you share those so that i can replicate the u-boot build? thanks!12:49
minutegrimmware: mornin'!13:17
minutejosch: let me see13:17
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grimmwareminute: how's it going? I see Berlin is, much like London, stupid hot today.13:20
minutegrimmware: very hot, but the office is always nicely cool (old building with thick walls and high ceilings)13:20
minutejosch: i see that i also didn't commit changes to mkuserland and userland-common.sh yet!13:21
minutei'll push it all together in a few mins13:21
grimmwareminute: yeah I'm working from my living room today which is cool but The Grimmloft where the magic happens is too hot :<13:21
minute:/13:22
grimmwaredoesn't help that I keep trying to boot up 5 desktop PCs running 9front in the form of a pentagram13:22
minutejosch: i believe missing adwaita dark theme was causing your wofi to look light. did it look like gtk default?13:22
joschminute: it did look gtk-ish, yes13:22
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joschi wanted to make a screenshot but then more was missing :)13:23
minutewoops13:23
minutejosch: "boot" is now pushed https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/7513:34
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joschah that's where non-free-firmware was hiding :)13:38
minutejosch: i will update reform-flash-rescue to download: URL="https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/artifacts/main/raw/reform2-imx8mq/reform-system.img.gz?job=build"13:41
minutejosch: ok?13:41
joschminute: or you wait a few minutes for the build of this to succceed: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/-/commit/23010bc8339d5c325ac9644a7add4e587da2a3b713:43
joschminute: i pushed this .gitlab-ci.yml into a new empty branch but once this works, you can directly put it into a new project like https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-a311d-uboot13:43
minutejosch: i think that pipeline will only start in like 2 hours13:44
joschoh13:44
joschhowever you like13:44
minutebecause of https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines/119113:44
joschthe disadvantage of a temporary solution is, that the scripts keep a list of all hashes13:44
minutei guess we'll need a beefier build server with a lot of disk space and the ability to run some concurrent jobs13:44
joschand those will differ once you rebuild as we've seen when the ci server moved13:44
minutejosch: which scripts do you mean? reform-flash-rescue doesn't check any hashes13:46
joschoh this was already merged13:46
joschnevermind, i misunderstood13:46
joschgo ahead!13:46
minuteok cool! i mainly need this for provisioning of new reforms13:47
joschsure :)13:47
minutewe download the system image to SD card, boot it on a new reform, perform tests and run reform-flash-rescue13:47
minuteand today my colleague is coming over to test 28 reforms13:47
minute:D13:47
minute(final shipment to crowd supply)13:47
joschnice :)13:48
minutebtw i have a tracking code now for ls1028a modules :013:48
josch\o/13:48
joschyes, i completely misread earlier -- the url in reform-flash-rescue absolutely needs to be fixed asap13:49
joschand then rebuild of reform-debian-packages13:49
joschand then rebuild of the system image to have the new reform-tools13:50
joschminute: potentially, fixes are needed in the reform-check utility as well with all these changes...13:57
joschbut i guess that has lower priority as that is mostly important for people who have something breaking13:58
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joschminute: about needing a beefier machine, i also see a few different ways forward:14:22
joscha) stop caring about hardware accelerated video output with gstreamer14:22
joschb) solve the gobject-introspection cross-build problem14:23
joschc) add a arm64 machine and only use it for the build_patched job to build natively14:23
joschd) add a caching mechanism which avoids rebuilds if there was no change in the gstreamer binaries14:23
joschi think d) could be done by seeding the existing repository with what is downloadable on https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo/14:24
joschbut downloading multiple things recursively via http is no fun14:24
joschmaybe the content there could be exposed via rsync or ftp?14:25
joschor a mechanism could be added to download the latest successful pipeline result14:25
minutejosch: i see, thanks for all the options14:28
joschthere is also f) make either upstream or debian gstreamer maintainers apply those patches14:29
minutejosch: f) would be the most beneficial i think14:30
joschoh absolutely!14:30
joschthe clapper people are the drivers behind that14:31
joschrafostar used to hang around in this channel14:31
josch(they are the one who wrote those patches)14:31
joschit's all submitted upstream as issues and merge requests and just has to get merged14:32
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joschminute: this is a POC for the caching idea d) https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/1514:55
joschhrm... i guess i should better put this code into .gitlab-ci.yml14:57
minutejosch: i will stop your pipelines for later resume, ok? just to get on system-image built15:06
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minute> Package 'firmware-realtek' has no installation candidate15:07
minutehmm, it wants to install firmware-realtek on imx8mq15:07
minuteah, somehow i added it to pkgsmisc be mistake15:08
joschminute: oh absolutely -- there is nothing urgent in my MR15:10
joschi just pushed it now to not forget :D15:10
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unixpoetminute: are you able to tell me which batch my LS1028A Reform is in, given the order number?15:50
unixpoetOr did the amount you were able to order cover all pending orders?15:50
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minuteunixpoet: support@mntre.com can tell you ^^ but also we are getting more chips from NXP soon so i think all orders will be shippable soonish16:13
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unixpoetminute: fantastic, thank you!17:17
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joschminute: thank you for merging https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/15 but the pipeline was just cancelled and never succeeded, so maybe what you merged will not even work XD20:02
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joschminute: i can now build a311d u-boot in a CI pipeline: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1965/artifacts/browse22:51
joschminute: could you test if that works and if yes, create a new project in the reform namespace so that i can push this pipeline there?22:52
joschthat way, doesn't need to be built anymore by reform-system-image where it does not belong22:52
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