2023-08-30.log

sevannew_user: yes, you can run the laptop without batteries installed.00:00
sevanyou are trying to boot the laptop from an SD card, correct?00:00
new_userNo00:00
new_userThere is a nvme installed00:00
new_userI got the laptop from a friend. He told me it worked before he put it to rest.00:01
sevanif you're trying to boot off nvme, I would guess that you haven't get u-boot installed correctly and that's why you're not getting anything.00:01
sevanjust to rule things out, I would write a copy of the system image to an SD card & try to boot from that00:02
new_userThanks00:02
sevanhttps://reform.debian.net/images/00:03
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joschnew_user: what sevan linked are the unofficial images based on Debian stable. The official images by MNT can be downloaded here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/releases00:04
sevannew_user: sevan doesn't know the urls :)00:05
new_userI'm gonna use the rescue image linked on the official web page00:05
joschnew_user: which link are you following?00:05
new_userhttps://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/1241/artifacts/browse00:05
new_userGot it from here https://mntre.com/docs-reform.html00:06
joschgreat -- that's the right link00:06
new_userDoes somebody know why the MX8MPLUS option disappeared from the shop?00:10
joschmaybe sold out? the pocket reform is currently waiting for those and they have many weeks of lead time00:11
sevannew_user: this? https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform-i-mx8mplus-upgrade00:12
new_userYeah this one. But there was an option to buy it with the MNT Reform00:13
new_userNot standalone00:14
sevanah, no idea. I thought you were hitting the same issue as me a couple of days ago by not browsing shop.mntre.com/products.00:14
sevan"Currently in production. Ships in April 2024.00:15
sevan"00:15
sevanwhereas the reforms are available from September (guess, I have no insight)00:17
new_userSome days/weeks ago I was able to select a MNT Reform with the PLUS module with a lead time of J6 months.00:18
new_userSome days/weeks ago I was able to select a MNT Reform with the PLUS module with a lead time of ~6 months.00:18
joschnew_user: the only one here who can give you a definitive answer is minute 00:19
new_userDoesn't matter now because I have one to play around00:19
new_userHa! It worked with the sd card. Thanks for the hint00:20
joschnew_user: maybe as the first step, connect that system to some wifi and flash the latest u-boot to your emmc00:20
joschnew_user: your current u-boot does not seem to have support for the display panel00:21
sevanjosch: worth running reform-check?00:21
joschsevan: that will just check the vanilla system from the sd-card00:22
joschnew_user: you can easily flash u-boot using: sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc00:22
new_userOk, I'm going to do this00:26
joschnew_user: after having flashed that up-to-date u-boot and you reboot *without* the sd-card and you still get a black screen, it's a sign that the DIP switch on your SoM is configured to load u-boot from your sd-card and not from emmc00:26
new_userLittle problem: The hashes doesn't match00:26
joschah... the system image didn't get rebuilt...00:27
new_userSo I have to check the repo out and build it?00:27
joschnew_user: in that case you could go with the suggestion by sevan and download an image from https://reform.debian.net/images/00:27
joschnew_user: you could do that too, yes00:28
new_userhihi, will do00:28
joschor you wait for minute to do the following:00:28
joschminute: we had to rebuild the u-boot flash.bin after you moved source.mnt.re to a different hoster and thus the hashes differ. Current reform-tools carries the correct hashes but the latest system image built by the reform-system-images CI has not been building a new image within the past 2 months00:29
joschminute: could you re-trigger the pipeline for reform-system-images to create a new image with up-to-date packages? Thanks!00:30
minutejosch: sure00:30
minutei just have an issue with a311d being quite slow now with kernel 6.5... i wonder if a cpufreq module is not loaded now00:30
minutecore freqs are now shown as N/A in htop00:30
joschwhoops :(00:30
new_userI'm going to continue tomorrow, no stress. The DIP switch on the SoM is the one beneath the heatsink?00:31
+ jacobk (~quassel@utdpat241106.utdallas.edu)00:31
joschnew_user: yes, i took some photos and wrote down instructions here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/-/issues/200:32
new_userThanks00:33
new_userOfftopic: Are bouncers are still a thing to not miss something?... I use IRC a long time ago haha00:36
new_user*used00:36
minutejosch: cpufreq driver seems to be missing for meson00:37
joschnew_user: this channel is publicly logged00:37
joschnew_user: (you can find that link in the topic of this channel)00:37
minutehmm, also there's no /proc/config.gz00:38
joschwhat is /proc/config.gz?00:38
minutejosch: it allows you to see the running kernel's config00:40
joschminute: try /boot/config-$(uname -r)00:40
minuteah yeah, thx00:40
new_userbye and good luck00:40
sevannew_user: cya00:40
joschthe internet says that /proc/config.gz exists if CONFIG_IKCONFIG and CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC are set -- 5.12.0 still had those enabled but 6.1.0 doesn't anymore00:44
minuteah ok00:44
minutehmm 00:44
minute-CONFIG_CPUFREQ_DT_PLATDEV=y00:44
minute+CONFIG_CPUFREQ_DT_PLATDEV=m00:44
minutedoesn't seem to be it00:46
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minuteah no, it was really cpufreq_dt_platdev00:51
minuteok suddenly i can watch h265 again :D00:52
minutejosch: for some reason debian decided to build cpufreq_dt_platdev as a module now?00:52
minutejosch: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg133563.html00:55
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ex-parrothmm, trying out Xorg w/ Debian and HDMI enabled there is an annoying bug with bringing up multiple modesetting drivers03:18
ex-parrotI can either have internal + HDMI enabled using the AutoAddGPU probing, but it only works maybe 1 out of 3 boots03:18
ex-parrotor I can have either explicitly configured with AutoAddGPU disabled and kmsdev pointing at lcd-controller or display-controller03:18
ex-parrotbut configuring both with kmsdev isn't currently supported03:19
ex-parrotI'm wondering if there's a way to restrcit what it probes as an alternative strategy... will have to look at the code when I'm less busy :(03:19
ex-parrotmeanwhile I'll switch to Wayland Gnome for this presentation03:20
ex-parrotit seems like maybe xorg wants you to specify BusID for each driver but afaict that's only applicable to PCI03:20
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joschminute: could you leave a "same on the bananapi" comment on https://bugs.debian.org/1050587 and until it's fixed we just manually add CONFIG_CPUFREQ_DT_PLATDEV=y to our config?06:33
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minutejosch: sent the reply, and ack @ config addition16:00
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+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)17:48
minutejosch: i think we should slim down the reform-system-image to reduce build time and maintenance burden. i.e. ship less software by default17:52
- jacobk (QUIT: Ping timeout: 258 seconds) (~quassel@64.189.201.150)18:05
vagrantcthe OS no longer sees the battery after updating linux to 6.1.38-4+reform230725...18:06
vagrantcor just coincidence with the reboot into that kernel18:07
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+ jacobk (~quassel@129.110.242.224)18:23
minute6.1?18:24
vagrantcthat's the one from josch maintained at reform.debian.net following the debian bookworm/stable kernel, more-or-less18:27
minuteah, sorry18:28
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vagrantcat least, i think so ... :)18:36
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unixpoetsmaller images are strictly better, IMO: users can always install what they want, but removing what they don't is a hassle19:27
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vagrantc+1 on smaller images :)19:32
+ jacobk (~quassel@129.110.242.224)19:37
minutehuh https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/1773#L458619:45
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joschminute: sure, but you make the choice of what you want to ship and what not22:05
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joschvagrantc: what happens when you try to modprobe /usr/lib/modules/6.1.38-4-reform2-arm64/updates/dkms/reform2_lpc.ko23:58

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