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| Boostisbetter | minute: have you ever looked at Hyprland as another possibility to sway? | 09:53 |
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| Boostisbetter | Seems pretty compelling. | 09:53 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm not sold on it because it is dependent on wlroots and that is something sway authored. Meaning I feel like Sway is probably better written to use wlroots. All a bunch of assumptions though. | 10:11 |
| + MajorBiscuit (~MajorBisc@145.94.40.195) | 13:23 | |
| vkoskiv | Aren't most/all wayland compositors built on wlroots? | 13:35 |
| vkoskiv | It's like the basic building block to build a compositor on | 13:36 |
| vkoskiv | hyprland looks cool, but also really resource-hungry. Haven't tried it yet though | 13:36 |
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| - qbit (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.8) (~qbit@h.suah.dev) | 15:30 | |
| + qbit (~qbit@h.suah.dev) | 15:47 | |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 16:08 | |
| + ndufresne9 (~ndufresne@apple.collaboradmins.com) | 16:27 | |
| + reform3128 (~keydelk@c-67-176-15-10.hsd1.co.comcast.net) | 16:28 | |
| * reform3128 -> KeithK | 16:33 | |
| Boostisbetter | yeah that was my thoughts as well. I REALLY like Sway. | 16:33 |
| KeithK | Hello! | 16:45 |
| sevan | hi KeithK | 16:46 |
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| + ndufresne9 (~ndufresne@apple.collaboradmins.com) | 16:55 | |
| abortretryfail | vkoskiv: all the good ones are built on wlroots ;) | 17:02 |
| abortretryfail | Sway originally used a different library, wlc i think. They wrote wlroots to solve problems with wlc early on | 17:02 |
| Boostisbetter | Yeah, Sway really is one of the best. | 17:06 |
| - KeithK (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~keydelk@c-67-176-15-10.hsd1.co.comcast.net) | 17:09 | |
| - ndufresne9 (QUIT: Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) (~ndufresne@apple.collaboradmins.com) | 17:14 | |
| + ndufresne9 (~ndufresne@apple.collaboradmins.com) | 17:15 | |
| abortretryfail | I'd love to see something like XFCE or LXDE but written for Wayland on wlroots instead. Seems like all we have these days is big bloated DEs and tiling stuff for nerds. | 17:16 |
| abortretryfail | but i use sway just fine and can't code well enough to solve that problem. | 17:16 |
| vkoskiv | On my desktop I have to use i3 for the time being, because nvidia still doesn't support wayland | 17:31 |
| vkoskiv | Or, at least when I was last setting things up it didn't | 17:31 |
| [tj] | minute: if you wanted to arrange a meetup at camp I think the scottish consulate would be happy to host - but I also know that arranging these things can be annoying | 17:40 |
| - MajorBiscuit (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.6) (~MajorBisc@145.94.40.195) | 17:53 | |
| minute | abortretryfail: i am working on turning wayfire into something like that | 17:54 |
| minute | but wayfire recently had a major re-architecting, need to port my decoration stuff forward, probably during camp | 17:55 |
| minute | i am already using it as daily driver though | 17:55 |
| abortretryfail | minute: that's very cool. I have a friend who will be excited. :D | 18:00 |
| minute | abortretryfail: nice | 18:05 |
| minute | not sure yet how to package the thing yet because it's multiple custom builds of things that are also in debian. | 18:05 |
| minute | i guess one can mark packages as conflicting with others | 18:06 |
| abortretryfail | that would probably work. | 18:08 |
| abortretryfail | Oh, i ran into a situation this morning that might be worth sharing... Adding blue loctite or a dab of paint to the screws on the inside of the machine like the motherboard and trackball would probably be a good idea. | 18:09 |
| abortretryfail | One of mine rattled loose and was rolling around in the chassis. Could have easily caused a short if it was in my bag or left upside-down. | 18:09 |
| abortretryfail | (mine was a DIY kit, so this is my fault, but anyone who uses their Reform portable like I do regularly might run into the same situation) | 18:10 |
| minute | abortretryfail: yes, we're using loctite now(ish) | 18:39 |
| minute | also learning from this for pocket and future batches | 18:40 |
| + wiedi (~wiedi@2a01:138:a015:15:74c4:4631:3dc6:6ed9) | 18:56 | |
| vkoskiv | I'm pretty sure just random vibrations/small bumps are enough to loosen screws over time. | 18:57 |
| vkoskiv | I'm not a mechanical engineer, but that's why they put safety wire on aircraft bolts. Simple friction is not enough to hold a fastener over time. | 18:58 |
| - wiedi (QUIT: Client Quit) (~wiedi@2a01:138:a015:15:74c4:4631:3dc6:6ed9) | 18:58 | |
| vkoskiv | I've had the same happen once or twice, a random loose screw in the case. I now check them occasionally, and haven't had any fall out. Should get loctite too at some point. | 18:58 |
| abortretryfail | Yeah i'm pretty sure it was vibration/chassis flex that loosened these. I remember torquing them down pretty good during assembly. | 18:59 |
| vkoskiv | Especially in this case where the chassis itself is really rigid, so it transfers vibrations to fasteners quite well, I'd imagine. | 18:59 |
| vkoskiv | Unrelated, but I did strip the threads in one of the battery board mounting points of the main box, so maybe those shouldn't be tightened that much. | 19:00 |
| vkoskiv | Aluminium is softer than steel, after all. | 19:00 |
| vkoskiv | I thought I was going finger tight, but it still slipped. The other mounting points are fine, though. | 19:00 |
| vkoskiv | I put a bit of teflon tape in there to help it stay put, has worked well. | 19:01 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:08 | |
| - gnou_liber (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~gnou_libe@223.pool85-50-3.static.orange.es) | 19:11 | |
| abortretryfail | might be able to find a local machine shop and have them drill it out and put in a threaded boss if it falls out again | 19:11 |
| + KeithK (~keydelk@c-67-176-15-10.hsd1.co.comcast.net) | 19:17 | |
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| - vkoskiv (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~vkoskiv@85-23-188-148.bb.dnainternet.fi) | 19:25 | |
| + vkoskiv (~vkoskiv@85-23-188-148.bb.dnainternet.fi) | 19:26 | |
| josch | last week for me the three screws over the display rattled loose -- one fell and the others were close to falling out | 19:28 |
| josch | that's after one year of usage and without having touched them | 19:28 |
| josch | (i think the diy kit came with the display already assembled) | 19:28 |
| abortretryfail | mine did | 19:29 |
| sevan | likewise | 19:38 |
| minute | yes, we do that as a convenience | 19:38 |
| minute | because it's kinda fragile stuff | 19:38 |
| josch | i can imagine that the risk of the display breaking causes more cost than the work involved of having it already assembled | 19:44 |
| - Asmadeus (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~asmadeus@240b:13:8c80:d300::42:13) | 19:53 | |
| - murphnj (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~murph@user/murphnj) | 20:24 | |
| sevan | all the exiting parts are in the other half of the reform anyway :) | 20:41 |
| sevan | (I haven't popped the lid on the dispaly panel but it's just the LCD + speakers and cabling, right?) | 20:50 |
| minute | sevan: mostly yep | 21:02 |
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| + mlarkin (~mlarkin@047-036-115-056.res.spectrum.com) | 21:20 | |
| vkoskiv | I wrote up a lil shell script that starts playing a sound when my battery goes <5% | 22:21 |
| vkoskiv | Still needs a bit work, I want it to change some audio settings if need be, and then restore them after. | 22:21 |
| vkoskiv | Like turning up the volume, switching to the internal speakers, and disabling mute if it's on | 22:22 |
| vkoskiv | s/bit/bit of/ | 22:22 |
| + Asmadeus (~asmadeus@240b:13:8c80:d300::42:13) | 22:34 | |
| - vagrantc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 22:43 | |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 22:43 | |
| vkoskiv | Very tempted to find a recording of the old nokia low battery beep and load that in here | 23:38 |
| sevan | we don't have any access to the keyboard's lcd display from the OS, right? | 23:40 |
| sevan | (burn that last 5% on a flashy animation to indicate the battery is about to run out) | 23:41 |
| minute | sevan: totally have that access | 23:42 |
| minute | sevan: check kbdgfx in keyboard fw folder | 23:43 |
| minute | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/tree/master/reform2-keyboard-fw/kbdgfx-demo | 23:43 |
| sevan | ah sweet :) | 23:44 |
| vkoskiv | Hah! I just set the threshold at 5% just as a guess, and the lpc experienced brownout the *moment* it reached that % | 23:51 |
| vkoskiv | Didn't shut down though, I plugged in the charger | 23:51 |
| vkoskiv | It will now play that sound clip every minute until it's above 5% again :D | 23:51 |
| sevan | there's a 30 second before it registers that the charger is plugged in & switches over. I've cought myself out with that by plugging it in & still getting caught out. | 23:56 |
| sevan | I was compiling something but I don't recall why I didn't realise battery was dangerously low. Might have been looking at another machine's screen | 23:58 |
| vkoskiv | I set the threshold to 10%. Script needs more work, my other headphone toggle script just stopped working for whatever reason. | 23:58 |
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