2023-08-10.log

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abortretryfailCan anyone think of any serious drawback to just setting MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.0 at login? Missing GL 3 support seems to break more apps for me than whatever missing extensions etnaviv might have16:41
minuteabortretryfail: should be ok16:58
minuteabortretryfail: which apps are problematic for you?16:58
abortretryfailSDR++ is the one I use te most 17:06
abortretryfailwhich seems to be fine with the override and just works17:06
minuteneat17:17
minuteabortretryfail: which sdr hardware are you using with reform?17:17
abortretryfailRTL-SDR Blog v3 dongle17:23
minutecool17:37
sigridsdr software requiring a specific gl version is... I just find it weird17:49
minuteprobably they do some fancy stuff in the display code?17:49
sigridthat's what I thought, maybe some neat way to draw waterfall?17:50
abortretryfailyeah, it uses OpenGL to draw the waterfall and fft quickly17:50
abortretryfailI think the UI framework actually is what uses it.17:50
sigridis it qt?17:50
abortretryfailnope17:51
sigridoh, imgui17:51
minutei'm writing a software with imgui currently but using the gles2 codepath18:01
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abortretryfailgles2 would have worked and tbh i think this app even does that for the Android port. When I suggested adding the ability to build that for straight up linux the dev got kinda mean with me about running "old" hardware.18:05
minutemeh18:05
abortretryfailBrand new laptop, still smells like antistatic bags, folks callin it old. :)18:06
minutemean!18:07
unixpoetalso ableist18:11
unixpoetnot everyone can afford a Ryzen 9 795018:11
minutetrue18:14
abortretryfailehh... i don't think ability extends to economic class. There's a case to be made about keeping working hardware in use as long as possible to not waste resources though. :)18:20
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Boostisbetter7955 in the house over here, BUT I fully agree, and what the Reform shows is that the power from these chips is not really necessary for most people. 19:30
sigridabortretryfail: another way is to fork and keep it working with older hardware19:32
sigridwhether the author of the original repo wants it or not19:32
abortretryfailI am not good enough of a C++ programmer to even make it work with GLES let alone maintain my own fork of the thing.19:34
vkoskivWhat build system does the thing use19:36
abortretryfailcmake19:36
vkoskivI do SDR stuff occasionally, I could give it a go19:36
vkoskivNot the maintaining bit, but building with gles2 :D19:36
sigrideven if it's just "apply this patch on that version" it's way better than nothing imo19:37
abortretryfailor just do the override because it works fine the way it is19:37
sigridin nixos it would probably be just a wrapper19:37
abortretryfailbut what if i want "that version" to be "the latest one with the cool toys"? :)19:37
sigridit could suddenly break. it might work right now by pure chance19:38
sigridthen in the middle of some ham contest some random shader breaks and program crashes, idk :)19:38
abortretryfailit could break for totally unrelated reasons too, like it did on my desktop thanks to Pipewire-JACK19:39
abortretryfailanything truly important shouldn't involve software :)19:40
abortretryfailACTION uses paper logs for parks on the air.19:41
joschthe more i work with software the more i dream of just taking care of some goats in the mountains...19:41
abortretryfailbig mood19:41
sigridwhen I did rtty on zx-spectrum there was little of anything to break19:42
sigridit's just too bad.19:42
abortretryfailyeah, I have a project to make a simple FSK modem for the Tandy model 102 and write a rtty terminal for it.19:42
abortretryfailThe serial port on it can be run at the necessary 5-bit 45.45 baud, just need the tone decoder chip, filters, etc. 19:43
abortretryfailMy hf radio has a FSK keying input for transmit.19:43
abortretryfailsimple, straightforward, no bs 19:43
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