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| abortretryfail | Can anyone think of any serious drawback to just setting MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.0 at login? Missing GL 3 support seems to break more apps for me than whatever missing extensions etnaviv might have | 16:41 |
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| minute | abortretryfail: should be ok | 16:58 |
| minute | abortretryfail: which apps are problematic for you? | 16:58 |
| abortretryfail | SDR++ is the one I use te most | 17:06 |
| abortretryfail | which seems to be fine with the override and just works | 17:06 |
| minute | neat | 17:17 |
| minute | abortretryfail: which sdr hardware are you using with reform? | 17:17 |
| abortretryfail | RTL-SDR Blog v3 dongle | 17:23 |
| minute | cool | 17:37 |
| sigrid | sdr software requiring a specific gl version is... I just find it weird | 17:49 |
| minute | probably they do some fancy stuff in the display code? | 17:49 |
| sigrid | that's what I thought, maybe some neat way to draw waterfall? | 17:50 |
| abortretryfail | yeah, it uses OpenGL to draw the waterfall and fft quickly | 17:50 |
| abortretryfail | I think the UI framework actually is what uses it. | 17:50 |
| sigrid | is it qt? | 17:50 |
| abortretryfail | nope | 17:51 |
| sigrid | oh, imgui | 17:51 |
| minute | i'm writing a software with imgui currently but using the gles2 codepath | 18:01 |
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| abortretryfail | gles2 would have worked and tbh i think this app even does that for the Android port. When I suggested adding the ability to build that for straight up linux the dev got kinda mean with me about running "old" hardware. | 18:05 |
| minute | meh | 18:05 |
| abortretryfail | Brand new laptop, still smells like antistatic bags, folks callin it old. :) | 18:06 |
| minute | mean! | 18:07 |
| unixpoet | also ableist | 18:11 |
| unixpoet | not everyone can afford a Ryzen 9 7950 | 18:11 |
| minute | true | 18:14 |
| abortretryfail | ehh... i don't think ability extends to economic class. There's a case to be made about keeping working hardware in use as long as possible to not waste resources though. :) | 18:20 |
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| Boostisbetter | 7955 in the house over here, BUT I fully agree, and what the Reform shows is that the power from these chips is not really necessary for most people. | 19:30 |
| sigrid | abortretryfail: another way is to fork and keep it working with older hardware | 19:32 |
| sigrid | whether the author of the original repo wants it or not | 19:32 |
| abortretryfail | I am not good enough of a C++ programmer to even make it work with GLES let alone maintain my own fork of the thing. | 19:34 |
| vkoskiv | What build system does the thing use | 19:36 |
| abortretryfail | cmake | 19:36 |
| vkoskiv | I do SDR stuff occasionally, I could give it a go | 19:36 |
| vkoskiv | Not the maintaining bit, but building with gles2 :D | 19:36 |
| sigrid | even if it's just "apply this patch on that version" it's way better than nothing imo | 19:37 |
| abortretryfail | or just do the override because it works fine the way it is | 19:37 |
| sigrid | in nixos it would probably be just a wrapper | 19:37 |
| abortretryfail | but what if i want "that version" to be "the latest one with the cool toys"? :) | 19:37 |
| sigrid | it could suddenly break. it might work right now by pure chance | 19:38 |
| sigrid | then in the middle of some ham contest some random shader breaks and program crashes, idk :) | 19:38 |
| abortretryfail | it could break for totally unrelated reasons too, like it did on my desktop thanks to Pipewire-JACK | 19:39 |
| abortretryfail | anything truly important shouldn't involve software :) | 19:40 |
| abortretryfail | ACTION uses paper logs for parks on the air. | 19:41 |
| josch | the more i work with software the more i dream of just taking care of some goats in the mountains... | 19:41 |
| abortretryfail | big mood | 19:41 |
| sigrid | when I did rtty on zx-spectrum there was little of anything to break | 19:42 |
| sigrid | it's just too bad. | 19:42 |
| abortretryfail | yeah, I have a project to make a simple FSK modem for the Tandy model 102 and write a rtty terminal for it. | 19:42 |
| abortretryfail | The serial port on it can be run at the necessary 5-bit 45.45 baud, just need the tone decoder chip, filters, etc. | 19:43 |
| abortretryfail | My hf radio has a FSK keying input for transmit. | 19:43 |
| abortretryfail | simple, straightforward, no bs | 19:43 |
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