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| vagrantc | josch: i unfortunately removed imx8mq from arm-trusted-firmware uploaded to debian unstable ... as i don't see a viable way forward ... and the issues around the ddr timing blobs kind of make it of limited utility anyways :/ | 19:44 |
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| vagrantc | josch: oops, i meant experimental, not unstable ... although probably by u-boot 2023.07 release will also upload to unstable | 19:45 |
| vagrantc | josch: in the past we did have a vendor fork of arm-trusted-firmware ... generally to be avoided, but if the vendor forks are maintained, it is an option | 19:46 |
| josch | vagrantc: your reasoning makes sense. Such a sad state that not only are binary blobs needed, the blobs are also un-distributable and/or unmaintained vendor forks :( | 20:16 |
| josch | i'd like to investigate whether the situation is better with the ls1028a or with the a311d | 20:17 |
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| vagrantc | yeah, even heard there were problems with rk35xx ... the earlier rockchip seem actualyl pretty good about this stuff | 20:25 |
| vagrantc | sunxi/allwinner also pretty good in general | 20:25 |
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| vagrantc | though, the design of the mnt reform does actually give some options to shop around :) | 20:27 |
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| vagrantc | josch: actually, another angle is to take the work in u-boot to drop the need for arm-trusted-firmware on imx8 and port it to imx8mq | 20:46 |
| vagrantc | still have the ddr blob problem :( | 20:46 |
| vagrantc | ah, it was imx8m | 20:47 |
| vagrantc | https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot/-/commit/ed50f82ceb678309eb350eff061fffcacf9c878c | 20:49 |
| vagrantc | though that was just one of many commits ... no idea how huge a task that might be | 20:56 |
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| josch | vagrantc: unless somebody feels motivated to do the work.... | 21:27 |
| vagrantc | well, sure. :) | 21:37 |
| vagrantc | we'll always have our binary blobs :) :/ :( | 21:38 |
| josch | i'm wondering about the eDP blob of the ls1028a and what its terms of redistributions are | 21:39 |
| josch | vagrantc: do you happen to know which blob that would be? | 21:39 |
| vagrantc | not i | 21:50 |
| vagrantc | it is a bit painful to have gone through all that stuff about non-free-firmware in debian only to still be block on ... non-free-firmware | 21:50 |
| josch | minute: could you point me to the eDP blob for the ls1028a? i'd like to check its license | 21:51 |
| josch | vagrantc: true :/ | 21:51 |
| vagrantc | although, who knows ... maybe debian's decision might give a tiny bit of leverage to get better license terms on the blobs? | 21:53 |
| vagrantc | not high hopes ... but ... | 21:53 |
| josch | i highly doubt it | 21:53 |
| josch | when has that ever happened in the past? | 21:53 |
| vagrantc | the past is only a useful model to determine the future ... :) | 21:54 |
| vagrantc | but yeah, i do not have ... much hope or personal energy for that sort of thing | 21:55 |
| josch | it's annoying having to wget these things from some random location instead of being able to apt-get insatll | 21:57 |
| josch | but since it's just annoying and not a blocker i doubt there will be much change :/ | 21:57 |
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