2023-06-07.log

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joschvagrantc: reproducible builds for the win! By printing the md5 sums of the firmwares, I found a bug where setting a preprocessor option didn't have any effect and resulted in the same firmware without that option being set.00:32
vagrantcjosch: yay!00:34
joschokay, this looks good: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform/-/jobs/1258/artifacts/browse/reform2-keyboard-fw/00:36
minutejosch: very good indeed!00:38
joschminute: you can now read the diff and find problems in it :)00:39
joschit's still possible to set the old preprocessor variables like V or NEO2 but they are not built and there are aliases so that it's easier to build all of it with a shell loop00:40
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joschwait...02:01
sevan...02:02
sevan:)02:02
joschreform2-keyboard-fw/matrix_3.h -- why are there *four* entries for KEY_SPACE?02:02
joschkeyboard 3.0 has three spacebar buttons not four02:02
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sevanguess: something acts as space with modifier?02:03
joschno, this looks like even though there is a single keycap, there are two switches below?02:03
joschand row four has KEY_ENTER twice at the end?02:04
joschCould not use OpenGL, falling back to software rendering -- Cannot create more framebuffers. OpenGL rendering backend requires at least 3 framebuffers. You may try to update/change your graphics drivers.02:15
joschis this normal for kicad on the reform?02:16
joschalso, from the pcb rendering it seems that there is indeed only a single switch below the middle space bar :(02:16
joschi was getting excited for a moment XD02:17
joschso there seem to be just some dead keys that can never be pressed02:21
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bkeysThe CIA has been stopped03:24
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joschminute: if i didn't miss anything, your last motherboard 2.5 update was in March https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/110034674844147065 -- did the new motherboards arrive? are they already out in the wild?11:59
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BoostisbetterIf I understand it correctly the new motherboards are not so much upgrades as they are a rework due to parts shortages. Right?12:38
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minutejosch: they are not yet in the wild. 12:45
minuteBoostisbetter: yep but also some smaller bugfixes12:45
minutea change that affects the firmware is that the current monitor chip had to be changed to a different one12:46
minuteand so the formulas will be a bit different12:47
Boostisbetterminute: so you don't really see a reason for me, for example, to change the Mainboard? 12:48
joschminute: I saw you added REFORM_KBD_OPTIONS to the CFLAGS of the keyboard firmware as there was not yet any existing way to supply CFLAGS from the outside. I think I need to do the same with the lpc firmware as I do not see a way to otherwise supply anything without changing header files.13:03
joschWhy do these projects not respect CFLAGS being set when running make?13:03
minuteBoostisbetter: no13:13
minutejosch: you're very welcome to modify it! both are based on third-party makefiles13:14
minuteinput devices were based on LUFA and the lpc fw on something called lpc builder or sth like that13:14
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joschi think i'm just generally confused how these makefiles prevent anything from being overridden from the outside as they set variables like FILENAME=firmware instead of using FILENAME?=firmware14:44
joschto change anything you have to edit files -- this is odd14:44
joschminute: i'm now building two lpc firmwares as well: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform/-/jobs/1266/artifacts/browse/reform2-lpc-fw/14:55
joschminute: maybe the naming is a bit confusing? should REFORM_MBREV_R3 be renamed to REFORM_MBREV_20_R3 or similar?14:55
minutejosch: yes, i agree14:57
joschgreat, thanks!15:04
joschi'm about to flash the things produced by the CI15:04
joschis it possible to brick my keyboard or mainboard by flashing something broken or can i just flash a working image to make things work again?15:05
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