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| josch | minute: will the reform next come with an acrylic bottom? | 08:18 |
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| ex-parrot | reform next eh | 08:39 |
| josch | ex-parrot: did you read the announcement? :) | 08:58 |
| ex-parrot | no? I couldn't find anything | 08:58 |
| ex-parrot | I'm not finished with my first Reform yet :P | 08:59 |
| ex-parrot | ok found it, exciting | 08:59 |
| ex-parrot | if there's one thing I need it's more laptops | 09:03 |
| ex-parrot | particularly if they're made by MNT :) | 09:03 |
| josch | ex-parrot: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/110474687165909950 | 10:16 |
| josch | ah, should've read *all* the backlog first XD | 10:16 |
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| minute | josch: i don't think so @ acrylic | 13:54 |
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| jfred | Unfortunately won't work with a single cable since I seem to recall the Pocket Reform won't have DP alt-mode, but I wonder if the Pocket Reform with some of those display glasses might be a good combo on the go if you occasionally need a bigger display | 14:04 |
| jfred | Like the Nreal Air | 14:04 |
| jfred | Pocket Reform does have a lot of input in a small space, which feels like it might be nice for that use case | 14:05 |
| josch | minute: then that will be another clear (pun intended) disadvantage of the reform next that should be explicitly listed when comparing them ;) | 14:08 |
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| jfred | On the other hand, I'd worry less when taking it through airports 😆 | 14:24 |
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| eery | It's not the acrylic that freaks out security, it's the 18650 LiFePO4 cells ;) | 14:47 |
| eery | I know this because my reform always gets manually inspected after passing through the x-ray scanner and they see that row of scary cells lol | 14:48 |
| jfred | That's interesting because don't a lot of laptops have 18650 cells inside their battery packs? | 15:01 |
| jfred | ...maybe not 8 of them | 15:01 |
| jfred | (Older laptops, I should say) | 15:02 |
| josch | many li-ion battery packags of normal laptops just have round cells in them (at least they did 10 years ago -- now most laptops are super flat...) but those were definitely not 18650 sized :) | 15:06 |
| eery | also, not usually in the same configuration as the reform, those packs were stacks of them lined pole to pole, right? | 15:34 |
| eery | so far though beyond the inconvenience of being held up, no-one's really given me trouble, they always seem more interested than concerned | 15:36 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: as the resident Debian expert, can you tell me if Raspbian is derived from Debian? | 17:46 |
| minute | > Raspbian is a free operating system based on Debian optimized for the Raspberry Pi hardware. | 18:06 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: thanks! So even though I bailed on Linux on the Framework (although not really, I'm running Debian through WSL right now using Dino) I am still rocking it hardcore on my Reform and Penkesu. | 18:08 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: the problem is/was that Debian's armhf is built for the armv7 isa with vfp3 hardfloat -- that is incompatible with the older 32bit raspi boards as those only had armv6 with vfp2 | 18:11 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: so if one wanted to run vanilla debian on those boards one would need to use armel and not armhf | 18:12 |
| josch | but the problem with armel is, that then you don't get hardfloat and other optimizations | 18:12 |
| josch | so certain things would be much slower on the raspi with armel than they could be | 18:12 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: well I got a Radxa zero and their distro is pure Debian with their kernel modifications. | 18:12 |
| josch | so the people behind raspian rebuilt all packages as armhf but for armv6 with vfp2 | 18:12 |
| josch | they called it armhf as well even though it's different from what Debian calls armhf | 18:13 |
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