2023-05-26.log

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minutehere's an intel module, but would need a changed motherboard (with SMARC connector) https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/05/26/smarc-2-1-system-on-module-is-powered-by-an-intel-alder-lake-n-atom-x7000e-processor-or-core-i3-processor/10:59
joschnice!! finally windows 11 on my reform!!!111 ;)11:05
minutelmao11:19
minutebut only in "restricted mode" whatever that is11:20
joschi've never heard of it but it sounds bad :)11:25
joschhrm... 15 W TDP sounds a bit rough for the passive cooler, no?11:26
vkoskivIt's a lot, but if the heat is conducted to the chassis, that's a big block of aluminium right there.11:28
vkoskivAnd TDP should be peak power use, right?11:28
vkoskivI'm no thermal engineer, but it sounds doable to me. Though I've owned hot intel macs for many years, so I might just be used to hot running systems :D11:29
joschthe acrylic backplate is certainly not idea for heat dissipation11:34
josch*ideal11:34
sknebelboth replacing that (partially) with a larger cooling surface and adding a fan seem possible if you wanted more cooling capacity11:41
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vkoskivMNT liquid cooling kit wen12:35
sevan:)12:35
vkoskivOr a little reservoir of liquid nitrogen next to the trackball with a little valve that squirts the CPU with a bit when the temperature exceeds a threshold12:36
sevanand wipers for the perspex12:36
sevanlike an a car I think12:37
sknebelreminds me of people building these watercooled raspberry pi setups for fun 12:38
sevansaw the photo of the olimex stmp1 and wondered if hubris would run on it. looks like some of the stm32 family is supported, but not the stm32mp specifically. Not sure the significance. https://github.com/oxidecomputer/hubris12:41
sevanwoah, this thing has a gpu? https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/STMP1/12:43
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sknebelthe STM32MP branding is annoying12:44
sknebelbecause they really are a different thing than the STM32 microcontrollers12:45
sknebeleven the fast ones12:45
linxminute: about when will we be able to order the pocket from the website? 12:45
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sevansknebel: ah12:47
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minutelinx: maybe in like 6-9 months?14:41
minutelinx: right now you can preorder from crowd supply14:41
minutewe haven't gotten the money yet so we couldn't start producing14:41
Boostisbetterthat is crazy that crowd supply STILL hasn't given you the money from the campaign. I mean what is the reasoning for this kind of delay? 14:45
Boostisbetterhow many times does crowd supply need to mull over their cut before they've figured it out? 14:45
minuteit is some mouser internal delay14:47
minuteto be honest i've been sleeping badly this week because of this uncertainty and no concrete date given14:47
joschugh... anybody would have bad sleep over that... this really sucks for you :(14:51
minutei've asked now for a status update.14:51
josch...and for all the customers as well of course14:51
minuteyeah14:51
minutenew heatsink just dropped https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/11043504561846305914:52
minute32.5 degrees with a311d idle :314:52
minutecan it software decode 1080p @ 60fps youtube? yep14:54
joschpeople will still complain about the 4 gigs of ram ;)14:57
minutesure thing :D14:57
minutethere's a a311d2 cm4 thing in the making though... that one doesn't have the 4gb limit. but it's of course not yet mainlined.14:58
AbortRetryFailWhat do you use to edit these SVG files for things like the case port cover? I have a small modification that might be useful to others.15:03
joschAbortRetryFail: I used inkscape15:04
AbortRetryFailthanks i'll try that.15:04
joschminute: I just saw your mastodon post about the new heatsink -- what is sitting in the mpcie slot and what is that flat wide cable and where does it go?15:15
minuteAbortRetryFail: we also use inkscape here! and freecad for extruding15:32
minutejosch: ok so that's a clunky mpcie to m.2 adapter15:32
minutejosch: ideally i want one without a cable15:32
joschah :D15:32
minutei can of course design one if i don't find any...15:32
minutedoes exist on aliexpress at least https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004641053693.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu15:37
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minutecurrent TODO of bpi cm4 integration https://gist.github.com/mntmn/4353abca64a479fc2c54e63904c6c33016:43
minuteisn't it funny how nothing ever just works!16:43
joschoh, you are using github.com instead of your gitlab?16:51
joschuff that's a long list16:52
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minutejosch: no, it's just a pastebin for me16:59
minute(laziness)16:59
minutejosch: well, the display panel stuff is all solved now except for the re-initilization16:59
minuteaudio and wifi are the biggest remaining issues (i think audio is just a matter of dts fiddling though)17:00
minuteand getting ethernet to 1gbps17:00
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joschis there an advantage of the github gists over gitlab snippets?17:15
minutejosch: probably not, i just used muscle memory and typed "gist" in the url bar :D17:17
minutei forgot how the gitlab feature was called17:17
joschyeah, "gist" is quite the catchy name :D17:18
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minutercm4+bpi upstreaming already happening https://github.com/superna9999/linux/commit/71d6a8cb8a078ff5ee18def17038e0b2c6d6137318:21
joschmy brain just read "suspend" in that url and i got excited for ~1s XD18:25
minutehaha18:29
linxhave you ordered any of those laird antennas for the shop?18:34
minutelinx: we actually did. we just didn't put them in the shop yet18:37
josch"Update 2023-05-17: Our trial run was successful, and we are preparing a production run of 16GB modules. The 8GB module version is discontinued in favor of streamlined production. If you bought the 8GB module, you will be upgraded to the 16GB module."18:39
joschoh wow i just read that18:39
minutejosch: ah yeah. sorry, we still plan to send an email about this18:39
minutejosch: it's not worth it for us to produce 2 different versions after all18:40
joschACTION should clearly stop hitting f5 on that page18:40
joschthat's interesting given the big difference in price of the final unit18:40
minuteyes, but less than 10 people ordered the 8gb version18:41
joschoh XD18:41
minutemaking an extra run for that is more expensive than upgrading these orders18:41
joschwell, i cannot say i'm surprised as i was totally in for the 16 gb of ram as well :D18:41
minuteha!18:42
minutethe ls1028a som design is polished now, i'm just waiting for CS campaign money to hit the bank to de-risk our cashflow18:43
joschsounds very sensible18:43
minuteand the rack reform adds another niche use for ls1028a.18:44
joschespecially because then you can add bigger SSDs and a full-size pcie card :)18:44
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minuteyep!19:30
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minuteok, i got more detailed info from CS on the ordering/payout process with mouser now19:43
minutehopefully it should be completed end of next week19:43
minute(pocket reform)19:43
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joschLinux reform 6.3.0-0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.3.4-1~exp1+reform20230526T100427Z1 (2023-05-26) aarch64 GNU/Linux22:12
joschagain lots of changes in the gpu/drm subsystem and lots of changes required to rebase our patches22:13
joschmaybe this time i messed something up because many parts the old code touched are gone now22:14
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joschbut it boots and i have the display up so maybe the things i broke are not too important?22:14
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minutejosch: oh? which patches for example?22:19
joschlet me make a diff...22:19
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joschhttps://paste.debian.net/hidden/59e9fc44/22:23
joschctrl+f for "componentized" to see the parts i removed22:23
joschthe parts that the old patch surrounded with an if() are just not there anymore22:24
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sigridlooks like some of the hdmi stuff got moved to its own subdir22:31
joschyes, i moved the cadence stuff into its own subdir as well22:33
joschi can push my rebased patches for 6.3.4 if anybody is interested22:35
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