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minute | here's an intel module, but would need a changed motherboard (with SMARC connector) https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/05/26/smarc-2-1-system-on-module-is-powered-by-an-intel-alder-lake-n-atom-x7000e-processor-or-core-i3-processor/ | 10:59 |
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josch | nice!! finally windows 11 on my reform!!!111 ;) | 11:05 |
minute | lmao | 11:19 |
minute | but only in "restricted mode" whatever that is | 11:20 |
josch | i've never heard of it but it sounds bad :) | 11:25 |
josch | hrm... 15 W TDP sounds a bit rough for the passive cooler, no? | 11:26 |
vkoskiv | It's a lot, but if the heat is conducted to the chassis, that's a big block of aluminium right there. | 11:28 |
vkoskiv | And TDP should be peak power use, right? | 11:28 |
vkoskiv | I'm no thermal engineer, but it sounds doable to me. Though I've owned hot intel macs for many years, so I might just be used to hot running systems :D | 11:29 |
josch | the acrylic backplate is certainly not idea for heat dissipation | 11:34 |
josch | *ideal | 11:34 |
sknebel | both replacing that (partially) with a larger cooling surface and adding a fan seem possible if you wanted more cooling capacity | 11:41 |
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vkoskiv | MNT liquid cooling kit wen | 12:35 |
sevan | :) | 12:35 |
vkoskiv | Or a little reservoir of liquid nitrogen next to the trackball with a little valve that squirts the CPU with a bit when the temperature exceeds a threshold | 12:36 |
sevan | and wipers for the perspex | 12:36 |
sevan | like an a car I think | 12:37 |
sknebel | reminds me of people building these watercooled raspberry pi setups for fun | 12:38 |
sevan | saw the photo of the olimex stmp1 and wondered if hubris would run on it. looks like some of the stm32 family is supported, but not the stm32mp specifically. Not sure the significance. https://github.com/oxidecomputer/hubris | 12:41 |
sevan | woah, this thing has a gpu? https://www.olimex.com/Products/SOM/STMP1/ | 12:43 |
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sknebel | the STM32MP branding is annoying | 12:44 |
sknebel | because they really are a different thing than the STM32 microcontrollers | 12:45 |
sknebel | even the fast ones | 12:45 |
linx | minute: about when will we be able to order the pocket from the website? | 12:45 |
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sevan | sknebel: ah | 12:47 |
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minute | linx: maybe in like 6-9 months? | 14:41 |
minute | linx: right now you can preorder from crowd supply | 14:41 |
minute | we haven't gotten the money yet so we couldn't start producing | 14:41 |
Boostisbetter | that is crazy that crowd supply STILL hasn't given you the money from the campaign. I mean what is the reasoning for this kind of delay? | 14:45 |
Boostisbetter | how many times does crowd supply need to mull over their cut before they've figured it out? | 14:45 |
minute | it is some mouser internal delay | 14:47 |
minute | to be honest i've been sleeping badly this week because of this uncertainty and no concrete date given | 14:47 |
josch | ugh... anybody would have bad sleep over that... this really sucks for you :( | 14:51 |
minute | i've asked now for a status update. | 14:51 |
josch | ...and for all the customers as well of course | 14:51 |
minute | yeah | 14:51 |
minute | new heatsink just dropped https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/110435045618463059 | 14:52 |
minute | 32.5 degrees with a311d idle :3 | 14:52 |
minute | can it software decode 1080p @ 60fps youtube? yep | 14:54 |
josch | people will still complain about the 4 gigs of ram ;) | 14:57 |
minute | sure thing :D | 14:57 |
minute | there's a a311d2 cm4 thing in the making though... that one doesn't have the 4gb limit. but it's of course not yet mainlined. | 14:58 |
AbortRetryFail | What do you use to edit these SVG files for things like the case port cover? I have a small modification that might be useful to others. | 15:03 |
josch | AbortRetryFail: I used inkscape | 15:04 |
AbortRetryFail | thanks i'll try that. | 15:04 |
josch | minute: I just saw your mastodon post about the new heatsink -- what is sitting in the mpcie slot and what is that flat wide cable and where does it go? | 15:15 |
minute | AbortRetryFail: we also use inkscape here! and freecad for extruding | 15:32 |
minute | josch: ok so that's a clunky mpcie to m.2 adapter | 15:32 |
minute | josch: ideally i want one without a cable | 15:32 |
josch | ah :D | 15:32 |
minute | i can of course design one if i don't find any... | 15:32 |
minute | does exist on aliexpress at least https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004641053693.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu | 15:37 |
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minute | current TODO of bpi cm4 integration https://gist.github.com/mntmn/4353abca64a479fc2c54e63904c6c330 | 16:43 |
minute | isn't it funny how nothing ever just works! | 16:43 |
josch | oh, you are using github.com instead of your gitlab? | 16:51 |
josch | uff that's a long list | 16:52 |
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minute | josch: no, it's just a pastebin for me | 16:59 |
minute | (laziness) | 16:59 |
minute | josch: well, the display panel stuff is all solved now except for the re-initilization | 16:59 |
minute | audio and wifi are the biggest remaining issues (i think audio is just a matter of dts fiddling though) | 17:00 |
minute | and getting ethernet to 1gbps | 17:00 |
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josch | is there an advantage of the github gists over gitlab snippets? | 17:15 |
minute | josch: probably not, i just used muscle memory and typed "gist" in the url bar :D | 17:17 |
minute | i forgot how the gitlab feature was called | 17:17 |
josch | yeah, "gist" is quite the catchy name :D | 17:18 |
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minute | rcm4+bpi upstreaming already happening https://github.com/superna9999/linux/commit/71d6a8cb8a078ff5ee18def17038e0b2c6d61373 | 18:21 |
josch | my brain just read "suspend" in that url and i got excited for ~1s XD | 18:25 |
minute | haha | 18:29 |
linx | have you ordered any of those laird antennas for the shop? | 18:34 |
minute | linx: we actually did. we just didn't put them in the shop yet | 18:37 |
josch | "Update 2023-05-17: Our trial run was successful, and we are preparing a production run of 16GB modules. The 8GB module version is discontinued in favor of streamlined production. If you bought the 8GB module, you will be upgraded to the 16GB module." | 18:39 |
josch | oh wow i just read that | 18:39 |
minute | josch: ah yeah. sorry, we still plan to send an email about this | 18:39 |
minute | josch: it's not worth it for us to produce 2 different versions after all | 18:40 |
josch | ACTION should clearly stop hitting f5 on that page | 18:40 |
josch | that's interesting given the big difference in price of the final unit | 18:40 |
minute | yes, but less than 10 people ordered the 8gb version | 18:41 |
josch | oh XD | 18:41 |
minute | making an extra run for that is more expensive than upgrading these orders | 18:41 |
josch | well, i cannot say i'm surprised as i was totally in for the 16 gb of ram as well :D | 18:41 |
minute | ha! | 18:42 |
minute | the ls1028a som design is polished now, i'm just waiting for CS campaign money to hit the bank to de-risk our cashflow | 18:43 |
josch | sounds very sensible | 18:43 |
minute | and the rack reform adds another niche use for ls1028a. | 18:44 |
josch | especially because then you can add bigger SSDs and a full-size pcie card :) | 18:44 |
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minute | yep! | 19:30 |
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minute | ok, i got more detailed info from CS on the ordering/payout process with mouser now | 19:43 |
minute | hopefully it should be completed end of next week | 19:43 |
minute | (pocket reform) | 19:43 |
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josch | Linux reform 6.3.0-0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.3.4-1~exp1+reform20230526T100427Z1 (2023-05-26) aarch64 GNU/Linux | 22:12 |
josch | again lots of changes in the gpu/drm subsystem and lots of changes required to rebase our patches | 22:13 |
josch | maybe this time i messed something up because many parts the old code touched are gone now | 22:14 |
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josch | but it boots and i have the display up so maybe the things i broke are not too important? | 22:14 |
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minute | josch: oh? which patches for example? | 22:19 |
josch | let me make a diff... | 22:19 |
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josch | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/59e9fc44/ | 22:23 |
josch | ctrl+f for "componentized" to see the parts i removed | 22:23 |
josch | the parts that the old patch surrounded with an if() are just not there anymore | 22:24 |
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sigrid | looks like some of the hdmi stuff got moved to its own subdir | 22:31 |
josch | yes, i moved the cadence stuff into its own subdir as well | 22:33 |
josch | i can push my rebased patches for 6.3.4 if anybody is interested | 22:35 |
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