| jfred | minute: Hmm! As someone who ordered a Reform keyboard a little while ago that hasn't shipped yet, I wonder if it's possible to switch that order to this one? But then, I also kinda like the Ctrl key by my thumb on the original keyboard... | 00:07 |
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| vkoskiv | Aren't the thumb keys alts by default? | 00:07 |
| jfred | There are two alt keys in the middle, but there's also one ctrl key just to the left of the spacebar on the original keyboard | 00:09 |
| jfred | It's not exactly under your thumb in a resting position I suppose but I use it that way haha | 00:09 |
| vkoskiv | True, I guess I just forgot. I use the pinky ctrl myself | 00:09 |
| jfred | Also, status report! My Reform is back in action after replacing F2 | 00:10 |
| jfred | All cells are visible and the laptop will charge them again | 00:11 |
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| minute | jfred: all unshipped orders will be the new one | 00:15 |
| minute | jfred: awesome, great success @ reform | 00:16 |
| jfred | Ah, okay! Well, don't mind that then :) | 00:17 |
| jfred | Suppose I can always remap one of the space keys to ctrl | 00:17 |
| jfred | Mourn the loss of the "hyper" key legend though :P | 00:19 |
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| jfred | Uh... hmm. The laptop is reporting one of the cells' voltages as 4.5V | 00:27 |
| jfred | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XL2dDf1J/IMG_20230519_182626_534.jpg | 00:27 |
| jfred | Maybe I should pull the batteries and charge them all up to the same level externally | 00:27 |
| vkoskiv | does the status show "balancing"? | 00:32 |
| vkoskiv | I think it should detect that and discharge the cell with a resistor to bring it back to a lower voltage | 00:32 |
| jfred | Oh, is there another battery status display besides that one? | 00:34 |
| vkoskiv | circle+s | 00:37 |
| vkoskiv | Shows system status | 00:37 |
| jfred | Ah - so, it was in balancing status briefly, but then it flips between "normal" and "cells missing" | 00:40 |
| vkoskiv | weird | 00:40 |
| vkoskiv | cells missing is when one or more cells is below a threshold voltage | 00:40 |
| vkoskiv | what does circle+b show when it's in that cells missing state | 00:40 |
| jfred | Difficult to tell exactly because the status reloads each time I navigate there, but it seems fairly consistent (the cell does show up but at a higher voltage) | 00:42 |
| jfred | ...also, this seems to happen only when the machine is plugged in, so I may need to investigate to make sure it's not actually applying 4.5 volts to that cell | 00:42 |
| jfred | (As an aside, I'm very happy these are LiFePO4 cells and not their explody brethren) | 00:45 |
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| minute | jfred: is this with protected battery boards? | 01:00 |
| minute | 4.5V can mean a measuring error (i.e. clipping) | 01:00 |
| jfred | minute: Yes, it is - I installed protected battery boards shortly before sending it off for repair (as I'd just gotten them in the mail at that point) | 01:02 |
| minute | if you add the voltages together, it is kind of consistent with the 27.9V total | 01:03 |
| minute | jfred: are your discharge resistors ok? i have seen some crack from overheat in reforms with shorts etc | 01:03 |
| minute | (this can be measured only when cells are disconnected | 01:04 |
| jfred | Which are those? | 01:04 |
| jfred | R25-R32? | 01:04 |
| minute | the 8 big ones near the bottom right edge | 01:04 |
| jfred | I'll check | 01:04 |
| minute | they are low ohm, high watt | 01:05 |
| jfred | Makes sense | 01:05 |
| minute | just thinking out loud: it's possible that protected bb has disconnected (protected) a cell | 01:05 |
| minute | ahd that it looks like 4.5 in the readout | 01:06 |
| minute | i wonder what a multimeter says about the cells (can be measured while they are in the laptop, at the clips) | 01:06 |
| minute | jfred: also check if F2 still conducts, maybe it blew again? | 01:08 |
| jfred | All but one cell read as 3.3V, the last around 3.6V | 01:09 |
| jfred | F2 still conducts | 01:10 |
| minute | ok, that sounds all good | 01:11 |
| minute | next stop: ohms of those 8 discharge Rs | 01:11 |
| jfred | Aha, R25 reads 153 ohms | 01:12 |
| minute | ha! | 01:12 |
| minute | jfred: if you looks closely it probably looks a bit toasty, and you can desolder its two halves (it'll crack) | 01:13 |
| jfred | Interestingly R25 does not look all that toasty, R26-R28 do but they measured much lower resistance | 01:14 |
| minute | hm! | 01:15 |
| jfred | What are the implications of this in the short term/should I leave the battery boards disconnected until I can replace that? | 01:15 |
| minute | jfred: you should probably remove the broken R or Rs | 01:19 |
| minute | jfred: if you wanna use the batteries | 01:19 |
| minute | jfred: alternatively, disconnecting the batteries is safe | 01:20 |
| minute | jfred: bur charging with broken discharge R can have weird effects as it can't balance the cell. the protected BB will then disconnect the cell if its voltage is too high | 01:20 |
| jfred | I'll leave them disconnected for now then and order a replacement. I have another machine I've been using as a daily driver in the meantime so no big deal | 01:21 |
| jfred | Also, glad the protected boards will do that! | 01:21 |
| minute | ok cool! sorry that this didn't turn up earlier in the investigation | 01:22 |
| jfred | No worries! | 01:22 |
| jfred | Thanks for all the help | 01:22 |
| minute | sure! i hope your reform will be healthy again soon | 01:23 |
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| Boostisbetter | minute: I am convinced that the problem with suspend is solved when using system image v3 and the 5.12 kernel. | 13:17 |
| Boostisbetter | I am over 100 in successful wakes from standby. | 13:18 |
| Boostisbetter | the only semi issue is that there are graphical anomolies under the 5.12 kernel that cause application the glitch. | 13:26 |
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| minute | Boostisbetter: good, now one needs to find the kernel version after 5.12 where things got worse | 14:10 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: you are suspending using "systemctl suspend"? | 15:04 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: yes, tied to a key combo through sway config | 15:05 |
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| jfred | minute: I don't know if there's space for it on the Pocket Reform (probably would be on the full sized one) but have you considered putting a Kensington security slot on the metal body? | 16:31 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: and just in case you are interested this is the total time the system has been up and running: | 19:21 |
| Boostisbetter | Uptime: 11 days, 23 hours, 52 mins | 19:21 |
| Boostisbetter | I assume that is taking sleep time into account as being on as well. | 19:21 |
| minute | jfred: haven't! | 19:59 |
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