2023-05-12.log

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Boostisbetterwell we are on wake number 21 on the Reform using the 5.12 kernel. 14:18
+ qbit (~qbit@2602:ff16:3:0:1:3a0:0:1)14:29
eerySo I've been thinking about hibernation support on linux -- how has this been supported in the past? It seems like whatever hibernates from userland also has to modify the kernel cmdline each time, then change it back upon resume15:03
BoostisbetterYeah I don't really understand why Linux as a whole has kind of forgotten about hibernation, and they don't really seem to give it much attention, but it works and is a great tool. 15:08
minuteeery: do you really need to change the cmdline back?15:13
eerywouldn't you have to remove it to prevent the kernel from trying to resume again? It's not clear from the kernel's documentation15:15
eeryit kind of makes it sound like you're supposed to change it every time you trigger hibernation15:16
eeryBoostisbetter: probably because of how it's implemented, it looks ... treacherous when you use an initrd15:22
eeryif you accidentally touch the filesystem before resuming, bad things happen lol15:23
BoostisbetterSystemd 4 life yo. 15:32
BoostisbetterHaha just kidding. 15:32
eerynot actually relevant here, since systemd is loaded after the initrd does its thing15:33
eeryI'm always amused at how configurable linux is -- the fact you can disable support for unix domain sockets is pretty crazy, for instance15:43
eerymakes me wonder how small you could make a toy kernel15:44
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minuteeery: i thought that as it is a swapfile, it would just not resume if it doesn't have some hibernation info in it, but ignore it (?)17:17
eeryIt might -- I'll test it later, I'm curious17:18
eerygotta make full backups first though :P17:18
bkeysminute: How is the prototype cm4 adapter working? I saw it on mastodon17:23
minutebkeys: i'm just finishing the layout of rev3!17:23
bkeysAny loose estimate of when it will be available for preorder?17:24
bkeysI saw you had the banana pi, does the soquarts or raspberry pi work?17:30
minutebkeys: it worked pretty well with bpi cm4! just waiting for a patch from neil armstrong 17:32
minutebkeys: rpi works, too, soquartz was too boring for me to investigate further17:32
bkeysWhat about the Raxda SoM?17:32
minutebkeys: it does not exist17:33
minute(you probably mean the cm5?)17:33
minutebut i will start with t-firefly rk3588 adapter also today17:33
bkeyshttps://www.okdo.com/p/okdo-rock-3-compute-module-cm3-4gb-32gb-with-wifi-bluetooth/17:33
bkeyst-firefly rk3588 will be OP17:33
minuterk3566... not very interesting i think17:34
minutethe a311d in bpi is much more powerful17:34
minute(hexacore, 4 of which are a73)17:34
bkeysYeah having good CPU isn't as nice when there isn't RAM to back it up17:34
bkeysOn the current imx8 in this Reform I'm swapping all the time17:35
minutewell, for my personal usecases it's good for now17:35
minuteyou running gnome?17:35
bkeysNo, KDE17:36
bkeysBut Eclipse is also my programming environment of choice and it's RAM hungry too17:36
minuteah well, understandable17:39
minutehow well does kde work atm on reform?17:39
bkeysIt works just fine, I usually don't have any performance issues unless I have a memory issue17:40
bkeysA graphical display manager would be nice to have. Are you able to boot mainline kernels on cm4?17:42
bkeysFedora is my distro of choice and it has official support for the cm4 now; so I'd love to have that17:42
minuteyes, there is only little customization necessary, like an overlay for audio and rtc, and toggling usb hub reset17:58
minutehaha i started rcm4 originally in 2021-11-2218:16
minutevery slow moving project18:16
bkeysminute: What requires little customization?18:24
minuterunning cm4 in reform18:26
minutevs the stock pi image, you would need to load an overlay for the above mentioned things18:27
minutedevice tree overlay18:27
Boostisbetterminute: so with the cm4 you can run piOS?18:28
minuteisn't it armbian nowadays? not sure18:32
minuteone could run any OS supported by the rpi 418:32
Boostisbetterthat's cool. I would run Ubuntu I think18:56
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blueriseminute: how's the rcm4? :P22:03
blueriseah, finishing layout of rev322:03
blueriseok ok, more waiting22:03
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minutei worked with neil armstrong today and with his help i managed to get the famed sn65dsi86 colorbars on a311d22:43
minuteif this worked i would totally switch to that chip in my personal reform for a while22:45
blueriseminute: that's already pretty awesome22:56
minutewithout colorbars there's just flicker though... so something off with the mipi frames22:56
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