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| kws | hi all. does the mnt reform have kvm support under linux? | 04:33 |
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| Asmadeus | kws: didn't check but I'd think so (at least its imx8mp cousin does and I don't see why that'd be different) | 05:38 |
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| josch | kws: yes, i can run a qemu guest with native speed | 07:06 |
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| Booster[m] | josch: with the 5.12 kernel you were not able to use suspend? | 09:24 |
| josch | Booster[m]: correct, my nvme disk dies during resume | 09:29 |
| Booster[m] | josch: are you using a transcend ssd from MNT? | 09:31 |
| josch | Booster[m]: i tried that and two others, yes | 09:38 |
| josch | see the forum thread about suspend | 09:38 |
| josch | Booster[m]: https://community.mnt.re/t/standby-suspend-to-ram-mnt-reform/538/99 | 09:44 |
| Booster[m] | josch: like you suspect I think something else is wrong with your Reform because I have the Transcend 1tb nvme as well and I am suspending all the time. | 09:50 |
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| josch | minute: if you liked https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/merge_requests/39 would you appreciate i do the same for the LPC and trackball flashing scripts? | 16:17 |
| * brennen|afk -> brennen | 16:38 | |
| minute | josch: yes! | 16:41 |
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| Booster[m] | if the Reform had stable standby, I think the Reform would be perfect. So close. I know standby is possible. | 18:57 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 18:58 | |
| minute | in other news, i managed to repair the imx8mq module on my personal reform and thus it is healthy again. | 19:00 |
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| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a1f:b500:f431:9979:9130:4486) | 19:08 | |
| Booster[m] | Wonderful to hear minute | 19:08 |
| c-keen[m] | <minute> "in other news, i managed to..." <- What's been the problem with it? | 19:09 |
| Booster[m] | <Booster[m]> "if the Reform had stable standby..." <- Hibernation would also be great. One or the other, if stable would be amazing. | 19:11 |
| eery | Suspend is a lot less appealing to me since it only drops power consumption to half of "normal" powered-on current | 19:18 |
| Booster[m] | Yes, but half consumption means it can last around 12 hours on battery | 19:19 |
| Booster[m] | If you are taking the Reform to work and using it, this means you can get through a work day without needing to charge. | 19:19 |
| pandora[m] | why just "half" the power? what is eating so much in suspend? | 19:20 |
| Booster[m] | If hibernation were an option this would of course be better for power consumption, but I think suspend is lower hanging fruit in that regard. It works about 75% of the time under kernel 6.1 with the display work-a-round that minute mentioned in on the forms. | 19:20 |
| Booster[m] | pandora: this is just the way the SoC operates. Same kind of issue on the Librem 5 as well. | 19:21 |
| eery | I'm not sure I follow -- if you're using it for work, how does suspend help? | 19:21 |
| Booster[m] | because I only use it for about an hour or 2 on my breaks and lunch. | 19:21 |
| eery | ah, I see :) | 19:22 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:35 | |
| minute | c-keen[m]: short on 5V rail, which was a failed capacitor on the imx8mq module | 19:45 |
| minute | now i just diagnosed another motherboard from a customer. it was also a 5V rail short, but totally different problem. it was failed diode D20 (SK54A-LTP) at the switch node of U7 | 19:45 |
| Booster[m] | awesome, thanks for sharing the details minute ! | 19:51 |
| Booster[m] | minute: You know I was thinking about the suspend thing, and one thing that occured to me is the amount of the system memory (RAM) I am using. I have a lot of things open and my swap is getting used. I wonder if this is what contributes to the suspend issues. Becuase if there is a problem re-initilizing the NVME drive then the swap is gone, and that means part of the OS that are in real time can't be accessed. Seems like a likely | 19:52 |
| Booster[m] | culprit for a crash. | 19:52 |
| Booster[m] | That makes sense to you? | 19:52 |
| c-keen[m] | <minute> "c-keen: short on 5V rail..." <- Which one was that? | 20:12 |
| minute | hmm, the main issue on that customer reform is also the imx8mq module. with it, the system draws around 20W unbooted, with an OK module the system draws only 3W. | 20:45 |
| minute | so i guess that's what killed the diode on the 5V buck | 20:45 |
| + ajr (~ajr@user/ajr) | 20:51 | |
| Boostisbetter | minute: one thing that has been happening a lot for me, is the LPC is glitching and freezing, and the only way to get it to reset is to unplug the battery boards. Is this what I'm supposed to be doing or is there another way to reset the thing when it glitches? | 20:55 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: did you try the LPC reset button? | 20:57 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: also, at some point i added brownout reset to the LPC, it might help you | 20:57 |
| minute | (firmware) | 20:57 |
| minute | ok so the issue on the imx8mq module is again one of those input MLCCs gone bad. | 20:58 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 20:58 | |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 21:03 | |
| minute | yep, after exchanging it the power draw is back to normal | 21:10 |
| minute | chartreuse: when you switched on your reform after the mosfet change, did you have the cpu module inserted or not? | 21:15 |
| Boostisbetter | > (firmware) | 21:17 |
| Boostisbetter | I just updated the firmware. Maybe it was just a glitch. I'll try the LPC reset in the future. I know I've tried that in the past and it didn't work. Do you just push the button quickly or do you have to hold it down a bit as well? | 21:17 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: normally just for a moment | 21:17 |
| minute | (quickly) | 21:17 |
| Boostisbetter | ok | 21:17 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: do you think you might make an update that would permit the Reform to charge from PD (USB C)? | 21:18 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: you mean a new motherboard? | 21:18 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: the easiest way is to use a usb-c pd to barrel jack adapter, did you consider this? | 21:18 |
| Boostisbetter | minute, nope, but I will get one. What sort of output does the battery pack need to provide in order to work as intended with the Reform? | 21:19 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: in community there is a thread with tests of those adapters, maybe someone there has experience with battery packs as well. | 21:20 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: regarding suspend, perhaps this calls for a bounty? maybe nanocodebug could be asked if they want to look into it? | 21:20 |
| Boostisbetter | 👍️ | 21:21 |
| Boostisbetter | sure, anything to kind of get the gauntlet out there. I'm sure someone can sort it out. | 21:21 |
| minute | you could start a thread about it on community | 21:23 |
| minute | i believe the error has to be tracked down again with kgdb or jtag | 21:23 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: ah, nevermind, there's already that active thread so that's probably the best place | 21:27 |
| Boostisbetter | ok, do you know of an organization we can appeal to with a bounty? | 21:32 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: you mean getting this sponsored by an organization? | 21:42 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: or do you mean an organization that manages code bountes? | 21:42 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: I guess both, whatever gets the folks working on it faster. | 21:42 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: did you know that Reaper has a aarch64 version and it runs on the Reform VERY well? | 21:43 |
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| minute | Boostisbetter: i didn't! for a while it didn't start, sounds like that was fixe | 21:52 |
| minute | fixed | 21:52 |
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| minute | i'm also working on my own little music tool in some of my spare time | 21:52 |
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| Boostisbetter | Bitwig is more normal jam, but Reaper is such an impressive DAW, and SUPER efficient | 22:36 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: i think the most popular bounty platform is https://bountysource.com/ | 22:37 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: if you set up the bounty i'd put money down for suspend support as well | 22:37 |
| JC[m] | Are any of you familiar with ardour? I've been watching unfa's videos on yt and have been trying to follow along. | 22:39 |
| JC[m] | +1 on a bounty. I don't have much spare cash right now but I can pitch in something. | 22:40 |
| Booster[m] | josch: ok, will do. I am going to bed now, but i'll looking into 'dropping' a bounty at bountysource tomorrow during breaks at work. | 22:42 |
| Booster[m] | josch: thanks again for your efforts to get me the 5.12 kernel. I am using it again now for some suspend stability. It is nice to be able to switch between the two. | 22:56 |
| minute | i have made several tracks with ardour but i do not like the midi editing at all. | 23:13 |
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| q66 | Boostisbetter: is reaper the one with tracker-like workflow | 23:21 |
| sigrid | I only know Renoise, which *is* tracker-like. it also has arm64 builds | 23:25 |
| q66 | oh nevermind, renoise was what i was actually thinking | 23:26 |
| q66 | ACTION hasn't looked into these things in a while | 23:26 |
| sigrid | https://github.com/8bitbubsy/ft2-clone/ is fine too | 23:26 |
| Boostisbetter | q66: I think it can be. | 23:30 |
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