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| josch | minute: what do you think about simplifying the reform keyboard firmware variants by eliminating KBD_VARIANT_QWERTY_US and KBD_VARIANT_NEO2 -- the default for the reform is KBD_VARIANT_QWERTY_US, no? The only difference of KBD_VARIANT_QWERTY_US seems to be the DELELTE key (fifth row second key) and this can also be achieved by shipping a file by the reform-tools package as /lib/udev/hwdb.d/99-reform.hwdb | 07:47 |
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| josch | users of neo2 (like myself) can overwrite this setting by placing a file in /etc/udev/hwdb.d/99-reform.hwdb | 07:48 |
| josch | files for non-default layouts could be shipped as /lib/udev/hwdb.d/XX-reform-neo2.disabled (files without the .hwdb extension are ignored) and then users could just use a symlink to enable it | 07:51 |
| josch | this would reduce the number of different firmwares that have to be reduced, thus simplifying the firmware packaging and flashing procedure | 07:51 |
| Boostisbetter | Woah! The pocket campaign had a last minute surge! Awesome! | 08:45 |
| Boostisbetter | MNT is going to be busy! | 08:46 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: do you know if the MNT store will be celling cellular modems and antennas for the pocket later? | 09:01 |
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| josch | hrm... my xbox360 usb gamepad doesn't work with the reform | 09:54 |
| josch | on my partner's intel laptop, the dmesg output looks identical to mine on the reform except that on thge reform i'm not getting this line at the end: | 09:54 |
| josch | input: Microsoft X-Box 360 pad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:04:00.3/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/input/input20 | 09:54 |
| josch | and the controller lights itself are blinking instead of being steady-on | 09:55 |
| josch | any ideas of what could be missing? | 09:55 |
| chartreuse | Is there perhaps a firmware file that the controller is needing? Though I wouldn't have expected issues there | 10:03 |
| josch | chartreuse: my partner's computer is just vanilla debian without anything else installed other than the default gnome desktop (and no non-free or some such) | 10:04 |
| chartreuse | IIRC debian just recently did something with allowing firmware-nonfree in a default install now, but yeah I didn't think the 360 pad required that | 10:05 |
| chartreuse | Once I get mine working again I can try my own 360 pad on it | 10:05 |
| josch | chartreuse: yes, the next debian release will have non-free firmware enabled by default on the installation medium | 10:06 |
| josch | oh interesting: | 10:10 |
| josch | modprobe: FATAL: Module xpad not found in directory /lib/modules/6.1.0-7-reform2-arm64 | 10:10 |
| chartreuse | Did you perhaps update the kernel and not reboot? | 10:11 |
| chartreuse | I get that a lot on an arch desktop where that happens more often | 10:11 |
| chartreuse | That or the module just wasn't selected in the kernel config | 10:13 |
| josch | funny, the Debian arm64 kernel (the official one as well, not just the one we build) doesn't even have a kernel/drivers/input/joystick directory: https://packages.debian.org/sid/arm64/linux-image-6.1.0-8-arm64-unsigned/filelist | 10:15 |
| josch | now lets find out why... | 10:15 |
| chartreuse | Weird that it'd just be straight up missing the directory, rather than just having them all disabled | 10:16 |
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| Booster[m] | BTW josch and minute, I do not have any wifi problems anymore. Not sure what happened in my old install but it was clearly borked. | 10:17 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: okay weird but good to hear!! :D | 10:17 |
| Boostisbetter | Yeah one confession I have to make is that I was told in the beginning to always use full-upgrade instead of upgrade. I think that is what got me into a lot of trouble. | 10:19 |
| + chartreuse (~chartreus@S0106f0f249dfd9c3.cg.shawcable.net) | 10:19 | |
| josch | Boostisbetter: you should not necessarily always use dist-upgrade | 10:20 |
| josch | The probleme here again is, that our system image is following debian unstable and not stable | 10:20 |
| josch | usually you only need to run apt dist-upgrade to go from one stable release to the next | 10:20 |
| Boostisbetter | True but this was when I was just doing apt update | 10:21 |
| josch | but as an unstable user one has to sometimes mix it in manually | 10:21 |
| Boostisbetter | If there were updates I always used apt full-upgrade | 10:21 |
| Boostisbetter | Never really had a problem doing that but I think a lot of the sudden instability I have noticed with Linux is because of that. | 10:26 |
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| mjw | nice. 291 backers 480% funded. congrats | 10:46 |
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| Boostisbetter | I have a long weekend ahead and I'm looking forward to getting my Reform completely back to where it was. | 12:11 |
| Boostisbetter | josch: the way you have the Reform as your only computer is inspiring. | 12:11 |
| josch | if suspend would be working, it would just be a normal laptop :) | 12:12 |
| minute | josch: we are waiting for an imx8mq plus module delivery, should finally come in may, then we can check if swapping your som would help with the suspend issue | 12:29 |
| josch | lets see -- no rush :) | 12:30 |
| josch | not having suspend would be bad if i would still travel a lot but these days my laptop is more like a mobile desktop for me, so it's fine to leave it plugged in for most of the day :) | 12:31 |
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| josch | minute: do you have any thoughts about my keyboard-fw proposal above? | 13:05 |
| Boostisbetter | ok, so suspend is very important to me, is it possible to move back to the 5.12.0 kernel while still being on the v3 image? | 13:11 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: in theory, yes -- but it would be a bit tricky | 13:33 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: essentially, you would obtain the old kernel sources from snapshot.d.o, retrieve all patches that were needed for 5.12 (more patches were needed back then), build the thing and install it and add an apt preference entry preventing upgrades from removing that | 13:34 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, that sounds far beyond my ability. Is it something i could pay you to prepare for me, such that I install the kernel apt, and add the apt preference? | 13:36 |
| Boostisbetter | Also it would be possible for me to jump back to the current kernel should a suspend fix be found for it? | 13:36 |
| Boostisbetter | *kernel deb | 13:36 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: if you are running sysimage-v3 with the most recent u-boot then you should see u-boot very early on your screen -- if you combine that with the u-boot-menu package, then you get a boot menu where you can select your kernel version very early on | 13:37 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: if you don't mind waiting a little bit i can prepare a kernel for you | 13:38 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, I absolutely can wait, and I would be very grateful for your help | 13:38 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: just ping me in case i should forget :) | 13:39 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, well I don't want to pester you, so how long shoudl I wait before I 'ping' you? | 13:39 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: 24 hours :) | 13:40 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, echt vielen Dank! I will totally ping ya when the time is right, if you haven't already mentioned something. Thanks again! | 13:43 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch, do you think that hibernation could work on the latest kernel? I think hibernation would be a much better solution to suspend for the purposes of the Reform. | 15:14 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: last time i tried it didn't work and i lack the skill to debug this | 15:15 |
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| minute | Boostisbetter: does purism have a solution for hibernation on the imx8mq? | 15:18 |
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| Boostisbetter | minute, no, not that I know of, but I have never tried. They do however have suspend working on their 6.1.* kernel all the time. | 15:19 |
| Boostisbetter | 100% reliable. | 15:19 |
| Boostisbetter | this takes into account that the modem is still on, and able to receive SMS and phone calls. | 15:19 |
| Boostisbetter | so not a direct fit for what we need here on the Reform. | 15:20 |
| Boostisbetter | But I am curious how the Reform would run under a L5 kernel | 15:20 |
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| + Booster[m] (~boosterbo@2001:470:69fc:105::3:3d99) | 16:09 | |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:11 | |
| minute | we sold 699 pocket reforms incl. crowd supply house order | 16:16 |
| sigrid | very nice | 16:17 |
| sknebel | congrats! | 16:18 |
| minute | thank you! it will be quite interesting to pull off this production | 16:21 |
| mark_ | minute, wow! really nice. crowd supply must really believe in you. | 16:22 |
| gsora | assembling almost 700 pocket reform by hand... it'll take time haha | 16:23 |
| mark_ | ACTION also believes in minute, but cannot order 400 units :) | 16:23 |
| minute | yeah we will need to hire some more people at least temporarily for the assembly process | 16:27 |
| pandora[m] | <minute> "we sold 699 pocket reforms incl...." <- Congrats to this massive success story | 16:29 |
| gsora | can't wait to make every coworker jelly on the next company retreat | 16:30 |
| gsora | "you should've backed it!" | 16:30 |
| jfred | I love that something like this can happen while still being pretty small in the grand scheme of things. The internet is so cool haha | 16:32 |
| jfred | There's a place for all the wacky little gadgets we love | 16:33 |
| minute | totally | 16:35 |
| sevan | as with other folks here, congratulations. :) | 17:09 |
| minute | thaaanks | 17:12 |
| amospalla | Congratulations, I hope you keep succeeding and innovating. | 17:33 |
| Boostisbetter | minute, do you feel like there will ever be a x86 SoC we can possibly upgrade our Reforms with? | 17:35 |
| Boostisbetter | well x86-64 I mean | 17:36 |
| Boostisbetter | don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with the performance of the Reform right now. | 17:49 |
| sigrid | what do you need x86-64 for? | 17:53 |
| Boostisbetter | development. Plus most software in the world runs on it. | 17:54 |
| josch | probably to run some proprietary software that is intel-only? | 17:56 |
| Boostisbetter | yeah basically | 17:56 |
| Boostisbetter | I realize that wont appeal to everyone, but if we are dreaming right? | 17:56 |
| sknebel | open and x86 doesnt mesh well, but if thats not a requirement it could be possible to adapt some SBC | 17:56 |
| Boostisbetter | yeah for sure. There is a small form factor pi 4 size intel boards you can get. | 17:59 |
| Boostisbetter | They run off of 12-20V so I think it wouldn't be too difficult to get in the Reform. | 17:59 |
| Boostisbetter | Also I'm not really drooling for it or anything. Part of the thing that makes the Reform so appealing to me is the arm architecture. | 17:59 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: currently emulating x86 on rk3588 is more interesting for me | 18:20 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: otherwise, waiting till there are small+energy efficient enough ryzen embedded SOMs with mezzanine connectors | 18:20 |
| Booster[m] | heck yeah, if ARM chips get more powerful and doing that is better performance wise, I'm all for that path. | 18:21 |
| Booster[m] | Heck dosbox runs great on the Reform. | 18:21 |
| minute | Booster[m]: tried box64 yet? | 18:21 |
| minute | you can even run some intel windows apps with wine | 18:21 |
| Booster[m] | Yes, before I wiped my system I was using it to run Putty and something else as well. | 18:21 |
| Booster[m] | I'm well versed in the wine/proton universe. | 18:22 |
| Booster[m] | That is a viable solution for sure. | 18:22 |
| minute | imagine if you had 10x more powerful arm cores | 18:22 |
| Booster[m] | yeah, approaching apple m silicon | 18:22 |
| Booster[m] | it would be glorious, but also with teh power savings they afford. | 18:23 |
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| + vkoskiv-m68k (~wallops@83-245-179-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi) | 18:40 | |
| vkoskiv-m68k | minute: Congrats on a successful campaign, and best of luck with sourcing components! | 18:41 |
| vkoskiv-m68k | (I'm typing this on my 1986 Macintosh Plus, I just got networking set up) | 18:41 |
| - vkoskiv-m68k (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~wallops@83-245-179-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi) | 18:48 | |
| sigrid | speaking of 68k, kintex-7 68k multi-core reform when | 18:49 |
| vkoskiv | quad-68k | 18:49 |
| vkoskiv | (The mac crashed :D) | 18:50 |
| sigrid | http://www.apollo-core.com/ on the reform | 18:52 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 18:56 | |
| jfred | Fast but still power efficient ARM cores in the Reform would be glorious | 19:00 |
| Booster[m] | yep, I would like to finally dump Windows on my desktop, but the nvidia GPU is holding me back. I didn't spend all the money on it to get a fraction of what it is capable out it. | 19:05 |
| Booster[m] | So I'm looking at getting an AMD based GPU which I have heard have far better drivers on Linux | 19:05 |
| Booster[m] | once that happens I will have officially abadoned Windows, even though I develop software for it still. | 19:06 |
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| josch | vagrantc: did you see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1035055 -- that should make building upstream u-boot from Debian easier (for the resulting binary targetting non-free) | 19:39 |
| vagrantc | interesting! | 19:54 |
| minute | vkoskiv: thank you and how fitting @ 68k :D | 19:55 |
| minute | pics of LS1028A MNT Reform PC prototype https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/110277606681427198 | 19:56 |
| minute | (typing this on it) | 19:56 |
| Boostisbetter | nice! | 20:03 |
| vagrantc | josch: i will still wonder how to actually build u-boot, though ... do i need to build a u-boot-source package and then upload a package that depends on that and the imx-firmware package? hrm. | 20:06 |
| vagrantc | josch: i have not maintained packages before that have ... well ... *any* non-free components ... especially when some of it is free and some of it isn't ... not sure how to go about that | 20:12 |
| josch | vagrantc: i'm not sure either (i only have a single package in non-free because cc-by 2.0 is considered non-free...) -- but i don't think it's relevant right now anyways because upstream u-boot doesn't work yet, right bluerise? | 20:21 |
| vagrantc | the last patchset i tried was ... close ... but quirky, at least on linux | 20:28 |
| vagrantc | last patchset i saw was https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/Y+BAShxPsVtjdcUO@windev.fritz.box/ | 20:30 |
| vagrantc | this is a case where i wish upstream would merge it, even though there wre some issues | 20:31 |
| vagrantc | ACTION follows up to the last patch comments | 20:38 |
| vagrantc | basically pinged to ask about including it ... | 20:39 |
| vagrantc | patch still applies, at least :) | 20:39 |
| vagrantc | i should go the extra mile and actually try building with it | 20:40 |
| bluerise | vagrantc: you know, I'm sure they'll be like "oh we renamed the following defines, so you have to submit a new patchset and wait another half year" | 20:40 |
| vagrantc | plenty of sunshine, so may as well spend some cpu cycles | 20:40 |
| vagrantc | bluerise: yeah, that is the sort of thing i am worried about ... | 20:41 |
| vagrantc | `/8 | 20:54 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, one other surprise from the v3 image is that my audio is much louder and clearer. | 20:54 |
| vagrantc | heh. i keep forgetting there is a dkms module for the mnt/reform ... i think it was probably almost a decade since i last used anything with dkms :) | 20:57 |
| vagrantc | having the reform2 kernels correlate to the debian abi is nice, too :) | 20:58 |
| josch | uff... that was a big mistake of mine... | 20:58 |
| vagrantc | the way it was, or the way it is? :) | 20:59 |
| josch | the way it was | 21:00 |
| josch | the way it is is less of a mistake ;) | 21:00 |
| vagrantc | seems considerably better by my reckoning :) | 21:01 |
| josch | it was a classical silly mistake of the kind "regex gone wrong" | 21:02 |
| josch | at least it didn't thrash anybody's system | 21:03 |
| vagrantc | hah. i don't remember off the top of my head how to install u-boot anymore | 21:34 |
| vagrantc | at least, for this platform ... | 21:34 |
| josch | vagrantc: dd if=/boot/flash.bin of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1024 seek=33 | 21:35 |
| vagrantc | thanks :) | 21:35 |
| josch | vagrantc: there is also the reform-flash-uboot script that does this magic for you | 21:36 |
| josch | not that you need that script but you can use it to look up how it's done once you forget :) | 21:36 |
| vagrantc | yeah, i was about to look it up, but lazily asking in irc seemed to work :) | 21:36 |
| vagrantc | hah. i did not expect to find a grub prompt waiting for me on the serial console :) | 21:39 |
| vagrantc | think i had some leftover debian-installer media or something | 21:39 |
| josch | haha :D | 21:43 |
| vagrantc | ok, bluerise's patch still works on top of 2023.04 ... under linux still has quriks with wifi (wlp1s0 exists, sees APs, but does not successfully connect to them) and ... sway does not start successfully ... but built-in ethernet works, the lcd/edp panel seems to work from console fine, and serial console works ... | 21:45 |
| vagrantc | now to try on top of upstream u-boot git | 21:46 |
| vagrantc | nvme works, the SD card works .. | 21:46 |
| vagrantc | only 1105 patches since 2023.04... | 21:48 |
| bluerise | heh | 21:49 |
| vagrantc | oh yeah, keyboard works too ... that's important :) | 21:49 |
| vagrantc | meh. upstream patches don't apply to 2023.04 ... wtf. | 21:52 |
| vagrantc | i guess i'll just build an upstream git snapshot ... | 21:52 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: linux 5.12 is building -- we'll see tomorrow whether it was successful :) | 22:43 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, thanks! So it takes that long to compile because it is the Reform crunching the numbers? | 22:44 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: compiling the linux kernel with all modules that Debian enables takes a few hours, yes | 22:45 |
| Boostisbetter | just cool that your Reform can do it. I hope I'm not keeping it from doing things you want at the moment | 22:45 |
| josch | and yes, i'm doing this on the reform -- there is no other computer here ;) | 22:45 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: that's why i'm doing it at night :D | 22:46 |
| Boostisbetter | do you have a smartphone? | 22:46 |
| josch | nope | 22:46 |
| vagrantc | linux 5.12? | 22:46 |
| josch | vagrantc: there is a regression somewhere between 5.12 and 6.1 that breaks resume from suspend | 22:47 |
| Boostisbetter | vagrantc, it works like 95% of the time on 5.12.0 | 22:47 |
| vagrantc | ACTION is too used to suspend (and of course, more importantly, resume) not working | 22:48 |
| Boostisbetter | for me, i've had suspend working since about 4 months after getting it. I've had it for about 2 years now I think. | 22:49 |
| Boostisbetter | Suspend is great for unplugging and getting through a day with it. | 22:49 |
| Boostisbetter | of course hibernation would be the best solution. One day that might be possible as well. | 22:49 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, thanks again! | 22:54 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: thank me once it actually works ;) | 22:55 |
| Boostisbetter | my compliments to the team for v3 as well. System is really running great. Only downside is suspend. | 23:07 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: you are welcome! My next plan is to provide a signed repository for the next Debian stable release. | 23:26 |
| Boostisbetter | very nice. | 23:32 |
| Boostisbetter | How long have you been working for Debian / on Debian? | 23:32 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, also your reform is still use-able while compiling? | 23:33 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: i'm watching a twitch live-stream while it compiles on all 4 cores | 23:34 |
| josch | thanks to hardware decoding i do not notice that my cpu is 100% utilized while watching the stream ;) | 23:34 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: I've been a DD since 2015 and working with Debian for about 19 years now | 23:36 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, most excellent! | 23:36 |
| Boostisbetter | Yeah the Reform is surprisingly powerful. | 23:37 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm working on an article about how the Reform offers a sort of computing that is not something you may consider before getting it. It will be along the lines of how the Reform offers a kind of more focused computing. The limitation actually act like a brake from all the things that computing enables, and helps you to focus on the thing you should be doing. | 23:40 |
| Boostisbetter | by virtue of not being able to do 5 million things at once. | 23:40 |
| josch | i actually have 11 workspaces in sway all full with applications XD | 23:41 |
| Boostisbetter | josch,I have 5 normally, with additional for other things. | 23:42 |
| vagrantc | bluerise: well, i've now tested your patch still applies and works on v2023.04, as well as current git master ... making some noise on #u-boot about it ... we'll see. :) | 23:42 |
| Boostisbetter | Browser across 2 windows and about 18 tabs, dino, signal, nheko, evolution, vscodium, lollypop, and a terminal. | 23:42 |
| Boostisbetter | Then usually libreoffice writer, dosbox, putty, vnc viewer, etc. | 23:43 |
| Boostisbetter | I find that the swap is pretty crucial to keeping everything chumming along. | 23:43 |
| Boostisbetter | having an NVME with a 10gb swap really helps. | 23:44 |
| Boostisbetter | also if we ever get hibernation going I'm set and ready for that. | 23:44 |
| vagrantc | guess the librem5, which uses a similar (same?) SoC also has some challenges with suspend/resume | 23:45 |
| Boostisbetter | vagrantc, nope. Suspend is working 100% now after a recent phosh update. | 23:50 |
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