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| eery | I didn't mean box86/64 needed a chroot, just that I've had applications that only worked properly in a chroot, because of differences in newer glibc IIRC, but it depended on the exact application | 00:58 |
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| eery | uh, is there a way to load an alternate u-boot script file from the monitor? | 01:05 |
| sevan | is there a source command? | 01:10 |
| eery | oh, yeah, right at the bottom of the help printout, oops | 01:13 |
| eery | thanks, hopefully I won't need it since I just figured out my first mistake and got the incantation to load a kernel and initramfs to work | 01:14 |
| eery | I was trying to load the kernel, initrd, and dtd in that order, which won't work since booti requires the size of the ram disk, and the $filesize variable is set by the most recent load command... | 01:16 |
| sevan | fun :) | 01:17 |
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| * mtm_ -> mtm | 02:04 | |
| eery | oh nice, booting off usb with extlinux.conf works | 02:09 |
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| josch | eery: you can automatially have extlinux.conf generated for you by installing the u-boot-menu packag | 05:49 |
| josch | *package | 05:49 |
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| + klardotsh (~klardotsh@172.56.168.84) | 07:28 | |
| Booster[m] | josch: I apologize if this is to public for a relatively private question but are you still in Würzburg? My brother used to live close by there and I have been there several times. Beautiful place. | 07:55 |
| Booster[m] | josch: one other thing I wanted to ask you about is why suspend doesn't work for you on the Reform? Do you know why or is it still a mystery? | 07:55 |
| Booster[m] | sevan: is there any chance you could make a post on the MNT forums detailing your Steam setup on the Reform? | 07:59 |
| - v4rke_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 08:02 | |
| josch | Booster[m]: no worries, the information that i'm based in würzburg is quite public, i'd say https://www.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/robotics/team/schauer-marin-rodrigues/ yes, it's a nice place and me and my family will stay here for a few more years to come :) | 08:02 |
| Booster[m] | Excellent! Glad to have you with us here! | 08:05 |
| josch | Booster[m]: about suspend: for me there are two problems. The first one is, that after resume, all SSDs I tried (from 3 different manufacturers) show me this error: https://community.mnt.re/t/standby-suspend-to-ram-mnt-reform/538/99 | 08:11 |
| josch | Others do not have this problem, so it's likely a problem with my SoM or the like | 08:11 |
| josch | The other problem is a regression in the linux kernel that somebody has to bisect to figure out what introduced it. | 08:12 |
| josch | I think it used to work with 5.12 but doesn't anymore with 6.1 | 08:13 |
| Booster[m] | Ahh, as my system is stuck on 5.12 suspend has been working for me. So everyone using the current kernel has no suspend? | 08:18 |
| josch | Booster[m]: do you and Boostisbetter happen to be the same person? :D | 08:23 |
| Boostisbetter | Why yes we are. The bridge I was using through cheogram on xmpp has been temperamental lately and so I am using the matrix bridge to make sure I don't miss anything. | 08:25 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: well, my information that suspend works in 5.12 comes entirely from you then :) | 08:25 |
| Booster[m] | I'm also 2disbetter on the MNT forums. | 08:25 |
| Boostisbetter | Oh. Hmm I had no idea that I was the only one with working suspend. | 08:27 |
| Boostisbetter | Granted suspend in this case just means the systems consumed half the amount of power that it usually does. | 08:28 |
| Boostisbetter | This is good for me when I have the Reform out and about and need it to last me the day. | 08:28 |
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| GNUmoon2 | Was the mnt reform side metal plates available for purchase previously and I missed it or only available for new laptops? | 10:33 |
| + andreas-e (~Andreas@147.210.21.1) | 10:34 | |
| josch | GNUmoon2: i have some spare metal plates that i can send you if you want (i'm in germany) | 10:35 |
| josch | i replaced my side-panels with ones that i 3d printed | 10:35 |
| GNUmoon2 | Thanks josch | 10:47 |
| GNUmoon2 | I'm in Australia | 10:47 |
| GNUmoon2 | How are the 3d printed ones going? | 10:48 |
| josch | GNUmoon2: no issues -- they do exactly what i want. OpenSCAD sources here: https://source.mnt.re/-/snippets/1 | 11:03 |
| josch | photos here https://community.mnt.re/t/finally-rainbow-battery-sleeves-and-another-3d-printed-side-panel/1254 and here https://community.mnt.re/t/adding-lte-modem-and-other-usb-devices/1215 | 11:04 |
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| sevan | Booster[m]: let me know if anything is missing from https://community.mnt.re/t/steam-on-the-mnt-reform/684/8 | 12:35 |
| Booster[m] | Thanks, can't believe I missed this. | 12:41 |
| + v4rke_ (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 12:42 | |
| sevan | :) | 12:42 |
| Booster[m] | <josch> "photos here https://community...." <- The modding and addition of components is very very cool, josch! | 12:42 |
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| vkoskiv | minute: gratz on >400% 8) | 13:50 |
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| minute | vkoskiv: thank you!! | 14:39 |
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| Booster[m] | josch: have you ever had any additional problems due to heat because of your additions and the fact that you leave it on all the time? | 15:21 |
| josch | Booster[m]: problems like what? | 15:23 |
| Booster[m] | josch: heat issues. Hardware acting funny or failing. Do you know what your average CPU temp is? | 15:24 |
| josch | yes, it's around 50°C | 15:24 |
| + v4rke_ (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 15:24 | |
| Booster[m] | That is the same for me. | 15:27 |
| Booster[m] | Have toy noticed a drop in battery life as a result of the hub and modem? | 15:28 |
| - v4rke_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 15:32 | |
| Booster[m] | s/toy/you/ | 15:38 |
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| - v4rke_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 15:51 | |
| Boostisbetter | v4rke_: do you know your connection keeps timing out ever ~240 seconds? You keep quitting and connecting. Not a big deal just curious. | 15:58 |
| + mtm- (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 16:10 | |
| josch | Boostisbetter: nope | 16:12 |
| + v4rke_ (~v4rke@88.135.20.160) | 16:22 | |
| Boostisbetter | OK, that is nice. So do you use your Reform as your main computer? | 16:22 |
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| minute | we launched some new merch https://shop.mntre.com/t/hardware/merch | 16:28 |
| sevan | <3 | 16:30 |
| sevan | would it be possible to have conventional post for shipping on the merch? | 16:30 |
| minute | sevan: we'll discuss it internally | 16:32 |
| sevan | ack | 16:33 |
| minute | i'm also not happy that we don't have a cheaper snail mail option, but it's caused us headaches in the past | 16:33 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: this is my only personal computer, yes (since june last year) | 16:33 |
| minute | especially to other continents it can sometimes take months for these to arrive | 16:33 |
| sevan | is it worth offering but stating the problem of lost/delayed shipping items are of the customers acceptance? | 16:35 |
| minute | yeah, we'll have to do that | 16:37 |
| sevan | I have my eye on the Open Computing Autonomy t-shirt | 16:43 |
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| sevan | this is interesting https://sovereigntechfund.de/en/ got me wondering if there's anything like that in England. | 16:55 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch, impressive. I think it would be cool if the Reform was my only computer. Is it your only computer because you are super FLOSS oriented or because you can't justify another computer? | 17:50 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: i wouldn't know what to do with two computers. I don't want to switch between different devices to do all my daily things. | 17:59 |
| josch | My old computer (thinkpad t440s) died so i got a new one: the reform | 17:59 |
| Boostisbetter | that is great. I wish I had that kind of control. I probably have 8 laptops. | 18:05 |
| josch | well, i also lack the cash for 8 laptops :D | 18:05 |
| pandora[m] | Now I feel good with only 4 laptops | 18:09 |
| Boostisbetter | But i would love to be able to drop down to one computer. | 18:12 |
| Boostisbetter | I guess one thing is that it has taken about 20 years to get to this point. So I don't really have the money for 8 either. \ | 18:12 |
| Boostisbetter | I guess one thing is that it has taken about 20 years to get to this point. So I don't really have the money for 8 either. | 18:12 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, does the pocket reform appeal to you? | 18:13 |
| jackhill | I'm not sure how I feel about the ortholiniar keyboard as I've never used one (not that I have money for a pocket anyway, or know that I have a use for such a device) | 18:20 |
| jackhill | but it is so cute! | 18:21 |
| jackhill | I would totally go for ranbow backlight on full-size reform. | 18:21 |
| jackhill | Also cool that it comes in a color. Green's my favorite though | 18:22 |
| Booster[m] | I LOVE ortholinear keyboards, they are superior in many ways. | 18:25 |
| + andreas-e (~Andreas@2001:861:c4:f2f0::c64) | 18:25 | |
| Booster[m] | They take a short amount of time to acclimate to, but once you do, they are just so much easier for the fingers, because their placement is just more logical. | 18:25 |
| Zaba | Well it ultimately depends on how deeply ingrained your typing habits are. Personally I find that the multilayeredness of most compact keyboards gives me way more trouble than the lack of row stagger, for example. | 18:31 |
| Boostisbetter | columar orthlinear is the ultimate but ortho is great by itself as well. | 18:32 |
| Zaba | Like the cognitive overhead from having to think of layers for keys that I could normally 'just type' is craaaazy high for me | 18:32 |
| Boostisbetter | It depends on how many keys you have. a 60 or 40% is certianly a challenge with layers. But on something like the Moonlander, I have layers, but I don't need them for normal typing or programming. I just have layers for special things like, a mouse layer, or media controls, etc. | 18:35 |
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| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:06 | |
| jfred | Ooh, yeah that merch looks nice, but I can't justify spending 40 EUR for shipping to the US 😅 I did order the supporter pack on Crowd Supply though so at least I can get a shirt that way | 19:12 |
| jfred | if there's ever something else I need to order from the shop though I'll probably throw some merch in with that order if it's still around | 19:13 |
| minute | maybe bnys can do another US group order | 19:14 |
| Booster[m] | logisitics are just plain expensive. Lets hope one day MNT is such a large company that they can demand a break on shippings cost like Amazon can. | 19:19 |
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| minute | we want to stay small. but perhaps we will have a US store/stock at some point | 19:32 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: the pocket reform does appeal to me (i did pre-order the dragonbox pyra) but again the cash problem :) | 19:42 |
| pandora[m] | Wanted to share the following article because it highlights why we need open hardware and companies like MNT | 19:46 |
| pandora[m] | https://www.nitrokey.com/news/2023/smartphones-popular-qualcomm-chip-secretly-share-private-information-us-chip-maker | 19:46 |
| eery | Oof, the Pyra | 19:46 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, with all you are doing for the Reform, I am pretty sure we could all contribute and gift you one. | 19:52 |
| jfred | pandora[m]: oooooof, wow | 20:19 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: thank you but i don't think i need it -- it would just be a luxery item :) | 20:20 |
| josch | *luxury | 20:20 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: if you want to gift somebody something, buy another (pocket) reform from MNT -- they are doing a hundred times more than me in my free-time :D | 20:23 |
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| jfred | Hm, the Reform Camera seems to have an aggressive fisheye distortion - is there a way to avoid that or is that just how the optics are? | 21:31 |
| jfred | If I set the webcam to 1080p in guvcview it seems to cut off the edges, but browser based videoconferencing tools don't seem to provide that as a supported resolution | 21:33 |
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| + rdg (~rdg@user/rdg) | 21:52 | |
| + XYZ (~XYZ@78-80-19-5.customers.tmcz.cz) | 21:55 | |
| anzu | pandora[m]: well, the pocket reform at least gets shipped with a qualcomm chip too | 22:03 |
| anzu | (which does not mean I disagree with you) | 22:10 |
| + kremlin (~kremlin@ip124.ip-167-114-218.net) | 22:28 | |
| minute | jfred: the fisheye is the lens. there should be alternatives you can mount | 22:32 |
| minute | anzu: pandora[m]: the qca9377 is an sdio device though, it can't access anything on the main soc. | 22:33 |
| minute | the article is unfortunately very light on technical details | 22:34 |
| ex-parrot | GNUmoon2: I just ordered a set | 22:43 |
| Boostisbetter | minute, josch, just to be clear but if I blank my system and start with a brand new image, I am potentially giving up the ability to suspend as well? | 22:49 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: this mod could be interesting for you https://tooting.ch/@vimja/110261387340686468 | 22:59 |
| - Kooda2 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~kooda@natsu.upyum.com) | 23:02 | |
| Boostisbetter | Interesting. So you think my wifi issues are reception based? I don't think so because before I updated things were good. I think I screwed something up with the system. I'm just glad it is still working. | 23:03 |
| Boostisbetter | Mainly glad about being able to suspend. 5.12.0+ for life yo! | 23:03 |
| + Kooda2 (~kooda@natsu.upyum.com) | 23:03 | |
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