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| bluerise | minute: so you're back on the cm4? :P (if you're asking for a kernel) | 00:35 |
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| josch | seems the LS1028A has no hardware video decoder... that's a bummer :( | 01:27 |
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| minute | bluerise: yes | 02:20 |
| minute | josch: yup | 02:20 |
| bluerise | time for zzz my friend | 02:21 |
| bluerise | I was already in bed but... got up to check something | 02:22 |
| minute | n8n8! | 02:22 |
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| josch | minute: did you maybe happen to have tried software-decoded h264 video playback with the LS1028A last time you had it? I got so used to the hardware decoder of the imx8mq. XD | 07:25 |
| josch | note to self: do not try software encoding vp9 on the imx8mq... i'm at 0.6 fps or 0.0182 speed for a 1080p@30 video with default ffmpeg settings... | 07:50 |
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| josch | just did a successful video call between dino on the reform and conversations on android | 18:21 |
| josch | cpu was at around 50-80% on the reform | 18:21 |
| josch | no visible frame drops or audio issues | 18:22 |
| c-keen[m] | Cool! | 18:28 |
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| Boostisbetter | using the mnt camera? | 18:41 |
| Boostisbetter | kind of sucks but using the mnt camera on the Librem 5 also resulted in a successful video call in Dino. | 18:50 |
| Boostisbetter | Sucky because the Librem 5 already has 2 cameras built in. | 18:50 |
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| minute | i just tried the cm4 in reform for the first time with kind of up-to-date kernel + open 3d drivers, quite interesting | 19:00 |
| minute | the gpu seems somewhat weaker than the imx8m's though?!? | 19:00 |
| minute | i have it at 600mhz, lets maybe try 750 | 19:00 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: just a random logitec usb camera -- i don't own the reform camera | 19:28 |
| Boostisbetter | I haven't really had luck getting logitech cameras to work with Linux. | 19:29 |
| josch | huh? they just use the standard usb video interface | 19:29 |
| vkoskiv | I've been studying the Reform schematics a lot recently. It's so much fun to find out what a given chip does and how it connects to everything else! | 20:05 |
| Boostisbetter | josch, never had any luck. Tried a c309 and one other. they just didn't work. | 20:09 |
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| minute | i made some progress with ls1028a rev 2. rbz made an error and all the level shifters have the wrong pinout. but i removed them all and made a few bridges and the thing boots. and i could see that pcie linked up. | 20:51 |
| minute | and the 8gb ddr4 work on our reproduced board. | 20:51 |
| josch | oh no, another revision needed then? did it manage to boot all the way already? | 20:58 |
| minute | yes, one more rev needed, but i am positive it will be the final one | 21:09 |
| minute | i booted linux, but it was set up to boot from emmc which was empty :3 | 21:09 |
| minute | (new board) | 21:09 |
| minute | next week i will test all the things | 21:09 |
| minute | also, it's a relief that we can actually manufacture this thing from rbz' data | 21:10 |
| minute | open hardware! | 21:10 |
| josch | nice :) | 21:17 |
| minute | trying to use "alien" to convert an aarch64 rpm to deb | 21:38 |
| vkoskiv | Damn. I stored a m.2 ssd from my old hackintosh installation for ~2y, now the drive is throwing a bunch of i/o errors when I'm trying to copy files off of it | 21:40 |
| vkoskiv | I guess they aren't built to last. Kinda nervous about how much data is lost! | 21:40 |
| sigrid | "back up your data TODAY" is one motto to live by :) | 21:50 |
| vkoskiv | Yeah, I've been putting this off ever since I migrated to linux | 21:58 |
| vkoskiv | Which was uhhh. About 1.5 years ago now? | 21:58 |
| vkoskiv | I'm really bad with data. I'm too impatient to sort stuff out, so I always just copy giant directories of random stuff over, so I have multiples of some things | 21:58 |
| vkoskiv | And for random physical cards/drives, I don't want to wipe them in case they have something, so I dd+gzip them so I have loads of giant gzipped drive images also :D | 21:59 |
| vkoskiv | I'm now migrating the home directory from my old hackintosh volume over to some drives on the linux side, so I have access to it again. Since linux can't handle HFS+ | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | Seems like it's just this one crucial m.2 drive that's having issues so far | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | And that's only 270GB big. Nothing much critical on there. | 22:00 |
| vkoskiv | I mean, I had it stored for ages and didn't miss anything on there :D | 22:02 |
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| vkoskiv | What I really need is two massive NAS drives in two different locations that I can replicate and just throw stuff on | 22:09 |
| josch | i keep all the really important stuff (personal things like photos) in git annex so that i get distributed and checksummed archives independent on the filesystem or OS below | 22:12 |
| josch | the other important stuff is distributed by people cloning my git repos for free ;) | 22:12 |
| vkoskiv | git annex? | 22:16 |
| vkoskiv | Huh, haven't heard of it. Is it like git lfs? | 22:16 |
| vkoskiv | Might do the same. The main *really* important files I have are high-rez scans of my film photography. Those were expensive to scan! | 22:17 |
| vkoskiv | I already had several copies of that stuff, so I should be good | 22:17 |
| josch | yes, it allows you to store very large files (think multiple gb) -- the real kicker though is, that it's really easy to combine git annex remotes that are either online or on a usb stick or harddrive | 22:17 |
| vkoskiv | Kinda funny how I'm similarly disorganized both digitally and in real life :D | 22:17 |
| vkoskiv | My office is always cluttered | 22:17 |
| josch | none of those remotes has to contain all files and git annext knows which file is on which remote | 22:17 |
| vkoskiv | Cool! I'll look into it | 22:18 |
| vkoskiv | Ugh, pretty much all large files are failing now with i/o errors. And macOS disk utility is just like "this is fine." | 22:29 |
| vkoskiv | Well, I think this SSD is just dying. It's not even transferring much anymore, and the system is freezing up :D | 22:34 |
| vkoskiv | I've never had an SSD die before. First time for everything, I guess. | 22:35 |
| pandora[m] | <vkoskiv> "I've never had an SSD die before..." <- If u don’t need this anyone can I have it? I want a dying ssd for reference | 22:43 |
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| pandora[m] | s/anyone/anymore/ | 22:43 |
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| vkoskiv | pandora[m]: I haven't *verified* at this stage if it's actual hardware failure. If you know a way I could check that, I could perhaps send it over. | 22:50 |
| sevan | point smartctl at the drive and see if counters are being incremented. | 22:54 |
| vkoskiv | pandora[m]: What sort of work are you doing? | 22:54 |
| vkoskiv | Oh wow, smartctl tells an entirely different story from disk utility | 22:56 |
| vkoskiv | (This particular system is running old macOS from ~2016, so using whatever macOS ships) | 22:56 |
| vkoskiv | All the smart attributes show either Old_age or Pre-fail | 22:56 |
| vkoskiv | And a bunch of errors are shown as well | 22:57 |
| sevan | I'm not an expert on smartctl but Old_age or Pre-fail are the type of indication | 22:57 |
| sevan | (it says that even on a brand new disk) | 22:58 |
| pandora[m] | I am working on some software that cycles ssd / usb stick or in general block devices and keeps track of the read-writes. Goal is to create some statistics of what r good devices/manufacturers and how well they keep up to their promise | 22:58 |
| sevan | joke: but pandora[m], they all lie! ;) | 22:59 |
| pandora[m] | I wanna quantify their lies :P | 22:59 |
| sevan | :) | 22:59 |
| vkoskiv | pandora[m]: I'm down if I can verify the hardware is failing, but I def. want to properly wipe the disk first, it used to be my daily driver, so it has password archives and such | 23:00 |
| vkoskiv | ssh keys, etc. | 23:00 |
| pandora[m] | Understandable | 23:01 |
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| minute | tbh so far i like the imx8mplus more than the cm4, but the cm4 still has some cortex-a72 grunt | 23:25 |
| sevan | managed to play MI4 on cm4? | 23:28 |
| sevan | :) | 23:28 |
| bluerise | The i.MX8MP is definitely a better SoC, apart from the A53s | 23:28 |
| bluerise | While the RK35xx are not as ... long term available as the i.MX8Ms, I think those are solid as well. | 23:29 |
| bluerise | OpenBSD seems to be gaining some further RK35xx from some developers | 23:29 |
| bluerise | So my plan is to put in RK35xx CM4 modules :P | 23:29 |
| sevan | what does it mean in terms of support SoC and the hardware which the reform provides. so you have the adapter, some SoC. The motherboard just provides different connectors and interfaces to that SoC? | 23:36 |
| sevan | or is there further work to marry up cm4 in a reform chassis? | 23:38 |
| sevan | (a new hardware combination) | 23:38 |
| vkoskiv | minute: The imx8mplus with the more RAM and 20% faster CPU? | 23:38 |
| vkoskiv | I'm very excited about that upgrade, I'll absolutely get it. | 23:38 |
| minute | bluerise: i wonder what happened to radxa cm5? | 23:39 |
| minute | vkoskiv: yep! the only downside is that the gpu is somewhat weaker than in the imx8mq, a bit of a weird choice @ nxp | 23:39 |
| minute | so you'll get less fps in 3d games | 23:39 |
| vkoskiv | I don't do much gaming here, the only limitation I'd like to eventually improve is the minimum OpenGL version, so I could run stuff like OBS and Blender unpatched | 23:40 |
| minute | (on pocket i play them at 2x scale, which doesn't matter much on the hidpi display) | 23:40 |
| vkoskiv | But I'm willing to wait for a better SoC/SoM to come out to fix that eventually. | 23:40 |
| minute | rk3588 most probably | 23:41 |
| minute | but still needs gl driver work | 23:41 |
| mjw | wow, pocket-reform funded at 194% with more than 200 backers. nice! | 23:43 |
| mjw | and still a month to go :) | 23:43 |
| vkoskiv | When I've been at events, I've noticed that people tend to compare/confuse my Reform with the Framework laptop | 23:46 |
| vkoskiv | i.e. they are confusing open hardware with repairable hardware. | 23:47 |
| vkoskiv | The reform is both, of course, but it seems like a bunch of people don't fully know the difference between the two | 23:47 |
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