2023-03-28.log

- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~wielaard@gnu.wildebeest.org)01:00
minutepossibly relevant: h264 decoder vulns https://wrv.github.io/h26forge.pdf01:24
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Asmadeus"H26FORGE is available at https://github.com/h26forge/h26forge "... 404 :(03:48
AsmadeusBut yeah I'll bet there are some low hanging fruits if someone were to fuzz around the i.MX decoders, at least their proprietary vpudec has some memory leak I've been chasing for a few days...03:49
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Asmadeus(author just said they'll publish it by the conference date, whatever it is)05:50
joschwell, this is about finding decoder vulnerabilities, so only publishing it at the conference date and not before is understandable ;)07:08
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AsmadeusThe vulnerabilities they found are already published so I think it'd be ok regardless really, but I also just didn't realize it was a recent paper aimed at a future conference09:42
AsmadeusI'll just check again in another while and try on our software stack then :)09:42
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sknebelProceedings of USENIX Security 2023 ->thats mid-august09:59
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* mark_ -> mjw12:16
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vkoskivGeez, the battery cells I ordered at 1AM on sunday already arrived, ready for pick up13:41
vkoskivMy reform is getting a nice battery upgrade today then :D13:41
minutenice!13:41
vkoskivCheap too! I only paid 29,94€ for the 8 cells!13:41
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minutevkoskiv: great!14:30
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vkoskivDo I need to balance these cells before putting them in? I did see a "Balancing" state in the LPC code, but I've never seen that happen in the status display16:50
vagrantcif they are wildly out of balance you might want to use some other method to get them close to each other16:58
vkoskivI'm not convinced the cells I received are LiFePO417:05
vagrantcoh, that would be bad.17:06
vkoskivThe markings are different than in the pic, these are JGCFR18650-1800mAh-3.2V17:06
vkoskivWith a serial number under, J2A4Y000514 for instance17:06
vagrantc3.2V is almost certainly lifepo4, though17:06
vkoskivThe pic on the website has the same text as the cells that came with my reform17:07
vkoskivif I google the text on the cells I got, it just comes up as "lithium ion"17:07
vagrantclifepo4 is a type of lithium ion ... unless the voltage is mislabled, it is not necessarily wrong to call them lithium ion ... just unspecific17:08
vkoskivYeah17:09
vkoskivPacking slip is correct, labels them as LiFePO417:09
vkoskivI'll just stick 'em in17:09
c-keen[m]measure the voltage17:09
vkoskivThey all show 3.3V17:13
minutei have here assembled reform serial number #217:13
minute(from an ex-customer). it had old battery board and batteries still connected, probably for 6-12 months17:14
minuteonly 2 cells were dead, the rest could be revived in-device17:14
vkoskivNew cells are in, charging up. Looks like they were mostly full, the charging current is dropping gradually17:20
vkoskivWith the bad cell I observed the charge current dropping much more rapidly17:21
vkoskivI need to re-read the code that handles charging. I barely understand it, but it's fascinating to see how it works :D17:21
vkoskivNevermind, it's clearer than I remembered. Many comments too17:27
vkoskivStill won't pretend I understand enough to touch this code though :D17:27
vkoskivR25-R32 are discharge resistors? For balancing?17:28
vkoskivReform seems very happy with new cells 8)18:01
vkoskivThey are sitting happily at 3.2V, discharging them fully now18:01
minutegreat18:04
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vkoskivI should start sourcing an assortment of components I could use for random stuff19:10
vkoskivIf I had SMD resistors on hand, I would swap the power rail LED resistors for higher value ones19:11
vkoskivTo dim the LEDs a bit19:11
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vkoskiv 20:53:33 up  2:14,  1 user,  load average: 0.11, 0.69, 1.1519:53
vkoskivAnd all cells still happily at 3.2V! Fuel gauge estimates 51%19:53
vkoskivGoing to sauna, leaving the reform on to continue battery test19:54
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joschvkoskiv: the bottom LEDs are not a bug but a feature! How else am i supposed to not stumble over my babies toys on the floor in the middle of the night without switching on the big light to not wake anybody up??? ;)20:25
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vkoskivSpeaking of LEDs: I would pay good money for a RGB keyboard upgrade for the full-size Reform21:19
vkoskivI'm not even the biggest fan of RGB stuff in general, but the pocket looks soooo cool21:20
vkoskivEspecially the individually addressable element, that's really neat21:20
vkoskivBattery test update: up 3:41, cells are all at 3.1V, gauge estimates 21%21:20
vkoskivNot a huge load average, just doing random stuff and it sat idle for an hour while I was in the sauna.21:21
vkoskivI think my cells were in a poor condition for a while, I had forgotten how good the battery life is with good cells.21:21
vkoskivI think a full-size RGB-enabled keyboard would be a selling point for the standalone keyboard as well.21:22
vkoskivup: 4:04 !21:43
vkoskivStill 12% on the gauge, first 3 cells dropped to 3.0V21:44
vkoskivVery nice and predictable drain21:44
vkoskivCompiling spotifyd, slightly more mA draw now. Though I'm still surprised at how small the difference is between an idle CPU and 100% utilized on all cores21:45
vkoskivThe display brightness makes the biggest impact by far.21:45
+ shaunsingh[m] (~shaunsing@2001:470:69fc:105::2:6a9b)21:47
shaunsingh[m]Hi, was looking to build my own modified MNT reform in a server blade form factor. I saw the following on the README21:48
shaunsingh[m]> The "MNT" and "MNT REFORM" logos are trademarks of MNT Research GmbH. You may not use these in derived works. The reason for this is that we cannot be responsible for regulatory issues with derived boards and we cannot support them. If someone sees an MNT brand on a product, it has to be clear that it comes from MNT Research and not from a third party.21:48
shaunsingh[m]Would you prefer I removed all instances of the MNT logo or removed them? I saw in https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-07-01-july-update.html that jackqueline's mnt reform kept the logos21:48
vkoskivThat was right before the new policy was implemented, there is now a set of MNT Remixed logos you can use instead21:49
vkoskivshaunsingh[m]: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/tree/master/symbol-for-derived-works21:52
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chartreuseFor the leds I put some 3m ruby tape (rubylith type) over them to really cut it down and turn them all to a deep red too. Just because I had it for making a led darkroom safelite21:56
shaunsingh[m]vkoskiv: thank you!21:57
vkoskivDrained battery, it safely shutdown linux at 1 or 2%, which is nice. Final uptime 4h 26min, which is more than good enough for my use!22:09
vkoskivCharging back up now.22:09
joschvkoskiv: what mechanism do you use to shut down at low battery percentage?22:12
joschupowerd?22:12
vkoskivI don't know! It just did it, I didn't config anything22:14
vkoskivI assumed it was perhaps your doing :D22:14
vkoskivAt least I saw the command line flash briefly with some stuff before it shut down.22:14
joschno, nothing is configured to do that in the reform-system-image22:15
vkoskivHm, maybe a brownout was detected by the SoM or something?22:15
vkoskivI don't know much about linux power mgmt.22:15
vkoskivspotifyd is excellent on the reform, by the way. Playing music now, doesn't go above 2.6% CPU. And memory usage is 0.3%22:16
vkoskivhtop uses more CPU to tally up the running processes than spotfyd does streaming music :D22:17
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vkoskivTook about 57min to go from fully drained to 100%23:04
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sevanmine reckons about 40something minutes. Which is a few months old.23:27
sevanvkoskiv: which window manager are you using?23:28
sevanI noticed on Gnome it notifies that it's about to shutdown.23:28
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