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| violet | my printer is some old thing that barely does anything, id probably be asking someone else to print for me | 00:11 |
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| violet | idk how to use 3d printers myself anyway | 00:11 |
| violet | well i guess i sort of do, its more that i dont know how to do the modeling / deal with file formats | 00:12 |
| minute | spent some time today fixing up the firedecor plugin for wayfire | 00:13 |
| minute | it builds again but is not yet stable for use | 00:13 |
| sevan | I've been down memory lane, watched a crow supply video of reform from 2018. Motherboard is labelled v0.4, thing is a completely different machine :) | 00:34 |
| sevan | s/crow/crowd | 00:35 |
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| minute | sevan: haha. yeah. we have 2 of those | 01:22 |
| sevan | nice :) | 01:42 |
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| chaseadam | flowy chartreuse I saw your old conversation about a spare set of JGNE (nearly a year), but do you happen to have a spare JGNE cell, I had one of mine reverse voltage. | 15:22 |
| chaseadam | anyone else have a spare JGNE or two (or a decent source for them)? All the linkes I have found are either dead or sold out (or only has qty 1 in stock with $20 shipping...). | 15:23 |
| minute | chaseadam: you can also use a different brand, as long as it is lifepo4 18650 | 15:25 |
| chaseadam | minute: Thanks for the tip! I haven't had success finding 1800mAh lifepo4 18650s in stock other than a surprisingly small amount of aliexpress sellers. Anyone have a reputable seller to recommend? | 15:28 |
| josch | chaseadam: or, if you live around france: https://community.mnt.re/t/jgne-18650-1800mah-original-mnt-reform-battery-giveaway/1075/6 | 15:29 |
| Boostisbetter | there are 2000 mAh lifepo4 from eremit. I have those. Gives you about 2 hours longer runtime. | 15:31 |
| Boostisbetter | finding them though is proving difficult. | 15:33 |
| chaseadam | josch: very generous! alas, I am on east of US | 15:33 |
| chaseadam | Boostisbetter: I share your difficulty... | 15:34 |
| minute | chaseadam: aliexpress should be fine | 15:35 |
| Boostisbetter | good old east coast. That is where I've lived most of my life. In Germany now. | 15:35 |
| chaseadam | was hoping to find someone in similar situation as josch found (who hasn't shipped them (back?) across the pond yet), but even just a reliable source would be nice | 15:35 |
| chaseadam | minute: sounds good! I may purchase a bundle and help out as people run into a similar situation (though I hope it is decreasing in frequency as people switch to the new protection boards) | 15:37 |
| minute | great | 15:38 |
| gsora | do lifepo4 batteries give a substantial advantage over standard li-ion? | 15:40 |
| sknebel | they are a lot safer | 15:41 |
| minute | more charging cycles / less aging effect, easier to charge | 15:44 |
| minute | downside: less capacity to begin with | 15:44 |
| minute | (less energy density) | 15:44 |
| minute | also, no cobalt | 15:44 |
| gsora | oh i like the no cobalt part! | 15:45 |
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| chaseadam | ordered a set of 10 2000mAh from https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805139165305.html for ~$2.80 each shipped/taxed | 17:39 |
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| chaseadam | looks like the battery link in the documentation (very bottom of https://mntre.com/reform2-handbook/system.html) does have them in stock for ~$4 each plus $13 shipping: https://www.batteryspace.com/LiFePO4-18650-Rechargeable-Cell-3.2V-1500-mAh-4.8Wh-5A-Rate.aspx?variation=10889 | 18:33 |
| josch | i guess https://www.eremit.de/p/18650-3-2v-2-000mah-lifepo4 doesn't ship to the US? | 18:40 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: interesting, although the ones I got from eremit are brown and not purple. | 19:37 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: yes, mine are brown too, but i replaced the sleeves with rainbow colored ones :) | 19:41 |
| josch | *were | 19:41 |
| Boostisbetter | Nice! | 19:41 |
| Boostisbetter | I left my brown. Kind of gave it a nice industrial look. | 19:41 |
| Boostisbetter | Although I liked the original blue ones better. | 19:42 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: https://community.mnt.re/t/finally-rainbow-battery-sleeves-and-another-3d-printed-side-panel/1254 | 19:42 |
| josch | yes, all blue also looked nice :) | 19:42 |
| Boostisbetter | Ah yes I remember now. | 19:44 |
| Boostisbetter | So have you had many issues with your cellular radio? Does it work reliably? | 19:45 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: no issues at all. I never lost signal. | 19:49 |
| Boostisbetter | Cellular on the Librem 5 is just terrible. It disappears all the time. Anything but stable. | 19:49 |
| josch | well, the librem5 modem is a totally different model, totally different antenna and it's 5g. mine is just a cheap 4g lte modem :) | 19:50 |
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| Boostisbetter | that is true but at the end of the day just beign to have a reliable connection is all I are about. I would love a reliable cheap 4g lte solution with it as well. | 19:58 |
| kop316[m] | <Boostisbetter> "Cellular on the Librem 5 is just..." <- To be fair, that isn't the modem itself that is the issue. The L5 tries to power down things to save battery, and USB hub it is attached to does a bunch of funky things when it is powered down. If you turn off the power saving module for that hub, the disappearences go away (but at the cost of battery life, of course). | 20:03 |
| kop316[m] | However, they have pretty recently been able to fix that issue | 20:03 |
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| kop316[m] | if you don't care about it being a portable cell phone, it's a lot simpler as well. The L5 wants to keep the modem on for e.g. Calls, SMS/MMS, but if you have the modem on, you are likely actively using it | 20:05 |
| sevan | not reform specific, but saw this mention of NXP i.MX8 at Embedded World earlier and thought it was interesting (I don't keep up with the world of arm) https://society.oftrolls.com/@arnd/110033839844290947 | 20:08 |
| sknebel | iMX family is close to the default answer for anything industrial | 20:10 |
| sknebel | (that needs something of that class, so running linux, often high-ish res screens) | 20:12 |
| sevan | understood | 20:14 |
| sknebel | (I.e. at work I've seen it in cars, lifts, food processing machines, test equipment of various kinds, ... - still lots of imx6 because older designs, but imx8 now for anything new from the past 2-3 years) | 20:16 |
| minute | josch: do you use an external antenna on the module? | 20:16 |
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| sevan | sknebel: when you say food processing machine, do you mean a blender? :) | 20:18 |
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| josch | minute: no, i'm using the mini antenna that came with the usb dongle and is internal to the dongle -- i only removed the plastic casing to save space | 20:33 |
| Boostisbetter | kop316[m], could you tell me how to disable the power savings on the modem/hub | 20:35 |
| Boostisbetter | I just want a stable connection. | 20:35 |
| kop316[m] | Boostisbetter: I would ask in the #community-librem-5:talk.puri.sm room. Personally, I just installed Mobian, but pmOS is also a good choice for it | 20:36 |
| minute | josch: ok, gotcha | 20:41 |
| Boostisbetter | kop316[m] yeah that makes sense. Ugg, I need to find my matrix account credentials. I hate dealing with matrix. | 20:42 |
| kop316[m] | Boostisbetter: Mobian and pmOS are bridged to IRC FYI | 20:43 |
| Boostisbetter | I saw that the maintainer of Mobian posted the power savings fix for Mobian there. I don't know why Purism hasn't just made the option available. | 20:43 |
| Boostisbetter | Hmm getting 403errorswhen trying to join the matrix chennle | 20:49 |
| Boostisbetter | Hmm getting 403errorswhen trying to join the matrix channel | 20:49 |
| Boostisbetter | I guess they were delaing with a lot of bots or trolls and now it is invite only. | 20:49 |
| kop316[m] | Boostisbetter: tell he your handle and I will invite you | 20:51 |
| kop316[m] | me* | 20:52 |
| kop316[m] | <Boostisbetter> "I saw that the maintainer of..." <- ther eis an explanaiton, but we are pretty far OT at this point here | 20:52 |
| Boostisbetter | kop316[m], 2disbetter:matrix.or | 20:52 |
| Boostisbetter | kop316[m], 2disbetter:matrix.org | 20:52 |
| Boostisbetter | and agreed about the OT. Thanks MNT and crew for the patience. | 20:53 |
| sevan | josch: where is the addition of the mnt apt repo to /etc/apt/sources.list handled during the os image build? | 21:02 |
| sevan | s/os/system | 21:03 |
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| josch | sevan: here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/reform2-imx8mq/mkuserland.sh#L60 | 21:26 |
| sevan | awesome, thank you :) | 21:27 |
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| sknebel | sevan: whops,missed the highlight earlier. no, beer brewing machine actually :D | 23:07 |
| sknebel | and an oven, now that I think of it | 23:07 |
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