2023-03-19.log

- MajorBiscuit (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.6) (~MajorBisc@2001:1c00:2408:a400:67e:5371:52a7:9b9a)00:32
sevanvagrantc: the guix thread on the mnt.re community forum got bumped recently and pointed to an old email post regarding support for the reform. Is it such an issue that hdmi port is non compliant (could it just be left unsupported?)00:55
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 276 seconds) (~wielaard@gnu.wildebeest.org)00:59
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)01:04
vagrantcsevan: sure it could be left unsupported01:07
vagrantcsevan: the HDMI isn't the issue, it is the ddr training binaries01:09
vagrantci mean, the HDMI can be left unsupported ... but ... you need your ram :)01:09
sevan:D01:09
+ mjw (~wielaard@gnu.wildebeest.org)01:09
sevannonsense! we just need to mod the hardware to erm... shit01:10
vagrantcbut ... you can "bring your own" boot firmware and use guix with it that way, probably01:10
vkoskivWell, technically ARM cortex-A53 can have up to 2MB of L2 cache, and as we all know, nobody *needs* more than 640KB01:10
vkoskivSo you could do just fine with just the CPU cache memory.01:11
sevanhmm, I wonder if freedos is supported on arm :)01:11
vagrantcmight limit what you can run a bit :)01:11
sevanheh01:12
vkoskivI don't know if you can even directly address cache memory in an operating system01:12
vkoskivSince it's more of a CPU internal thing01:12
sevanI have no idea, would a hammer help?01:13
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+ mjw (~wielaard@gnu.wildebeest.org)12:09
mjwnice, up to 154 backers and 120% funded for the pocket reform12:40
rahdid the reform 2 DIY kit include the WiFi antenna holder?13:03
- mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)13:04
Boostisbetteryes it should have. But I got the assembled version13:28
rahOK thanks13:29
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joschrah: i bought a reform 2 diy kit and yes, the transparent acrylic antenna holder was included14:07
joschrah: yes, it's definitely included (see point 18): https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/mnt-reform2-diy-manual-r1.pdf14:09
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sevanis it possible to play steam games on debian arm64?20:32
sevanspecifically interested in Return to Monkey Island and Thimbleweed Park20:33
sigridi think it is, with https://github.com/ptitSeb/box64 maybe20:33
sevanthanks :)20:34
sevanthere's a sale on btw https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@grumpygamer/11005157776405300020:34
- mlarkin (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~mlarkin@047-036-074-225.res.spectrum.com)21:01
gsoraDoes reform ships with mainline Linux?21:24
joschgsora: the default OS on the reform is Debian with the Debian linux kernel plus a few patches on top21:27
joschgsora: these are the patches: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/tree/main/linux/patches21:28
gsoraOh I see. I wonder if we’ll ever see those patches upstream!21:32
joschgsora: anybody can help with achieving that :)21:34
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sevanSteam needs to install these additional packages:21:48
sevanlibc6:arm64 libc6:i386 libegl1:arm64 libgbm1:arm64 libgl1-mesa-dri:arm64 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1:arm64 libgl1:i386 steam-libs-amd64:amd64 steam-libs-i386:i38621:48
sevanbails21:49
sevanPackage libc6:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.21:49
sevanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or21:49
sevanis only available from another source21:49
sevanHowever the following packages replace it: libc6-dev libnss-nis libnss-nisplus libcrypt121:49
sevanmissing some env variables21:51
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gsorajosch: most definitely! My message wasn’t a complain of any kind. I wish I could help with that!21:56
gsoraRegardless, it’s a lean patch set, I hope keeping it up to date with mainline isn’t a great issue21:57
joschit's alright ;)21:57
sevancurrent status: apt installing libdrm for amdgpu, nouveau, and radeon armhf builds on my reform :)22:31
sevanI installed box64-generic-arm package and used the install_steam.sh script from the box86 repo https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ptitSeb/box86/master/install_steam.sh22:43
sevanseems I'm stuck because I have box64 installed and steam is a 32bit binary?22:44
sevan.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error22:44
sevanseparate things, separate repos, separate packages22:48
sevancurrent status: steam is updating itself :)22:49
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sevanbleh, issues with wireless on router dropped me off.23:17
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)23:18
sevangot steam installed, it's updated, now just waiting for it to do its thing.23:18
+ S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin)23:22
sevan"Failed to load steamui.so - dlerror(): Cannot dlopen("steamui.so"/0x6abb43c0, 2)23:22
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sevanneed to play wackamole with missing armhf build of deps :/23:42
sevanneeded to install libgl1:armhf to address that failure23:43
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