2023-03-17.log

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violetminute: i have some thoughts/questions about the CM4 compat module and whether it can actually be made to also work with the Pine SOQUARTZ, is the discourse page a good place for that kinda thing03:10
violet(tho i need to like do some datasheet digging first to make sure i actually know what im talking about)03:12
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chartreuseRelated to the headphone script stuff there, I forgot to post here that I had that same issue and fixed it by changing to pactl and having to modify the script a bit. Forgot to post the fix on the forums04:34
chartreuseThis is my new .local/bin/toggle-speakers script https://gist.github.com/ChartreuseK/6102cec2b92b6d2ae3e876bff78d038804:36
chartreuseBasically changed the ACTIVE line to get the active port from pactl instead of pacmd04:36
chartreuseIt's kinda a lazy AWK command I used, but works fine on that output so far at least04:37
chartreusevkoskiv, seems like you got it working, but this is how I did it too04:37
chartreuseviolet, you can use "ntpdate" to do a clean ntp refresh when the clock is really far off, or you're on a system with no RTC04:38
joschi just realized that in contrast to pacmd, pactl can be told to output json -- then no grep or awk is needed anymore05:22
chartreuseStill would need some way to parse the JSON in a bash script, and AWK would still be the easiest way to do that05:40
joschjq05:41
joschor i just convert that shell script to python to make it even more legible05:41
chartreusejq isn't part of a standard *nix install, but is an option there yeah. I just like quickly doing an awk like that because it's always going to be on a *nix system05:42
joschwhat i dislike about the awk/grep solution is, that it can break at any point. it's just a heuristic05:43
joschbest fix would of course be if there was a --format for pactl that was easily parsable in shell only :)05:46
joschbut --format=text just seems unstructured output intended for human consumption05:46
violetchartreuse: you can't run ntpdate if you don't have network :)05:49
violetand you can't connect to wifi if your time is too incorrect05:50
violethence my script i'd have to run before i could connect to wifi and get ntp to work05:50
joschvkoskiv: thank you! i'm now using this: 06:10
joschhttps://community.mnt.re/t/should-headphones-be-detected-automatically/828/706:10
joschvkoskiv: thank you! i'm now using this: https://community.mnt.re/t/should-headphones-be-detected-automatically/828/706:10
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Boostisbetterso I was talking about reform not being able boot and I ashamedly must admit that my SD card was not properly inserted (it had been accidentally ejected).10:12
BoostisbetterIt is working again. 10:12
Boostisbetterwoot10:12
BoostisbetterREALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE POCKET REFORM. 10:12
Boostisbettersorry just pumped. 10:12
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minuteBoostisbetter: haha great @ sd10:15
c-keen[m]reminds me that I need to patch u-boot to be able to use the display..10:16
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bonfire__due to news of a potential alien mothership I was reminded of this 90s Powerbook commercial https://youtu.be/T1mdWkW5NPY10:58
bonfire__so I made a Reform meme https://imgflip.com/i/7etixt10:58
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blueriseminute: any updates on CM4 + HDMI board? :)11:11
blueriseLove the Pocket Reform, but I don't know if I want to spend another 1000 USD on it :D11:12
bluerisePocket Reform would definitely be more handy to debug/travel with :P11:12
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minutebluerise: the hdmi stuff works now11:57
minutebluerise: now all that's left is more proper mechanical integration11:58
minutei also already tried an rk3588 sbc with the reform display. worked fine11:58
minute(via that adapter)11:58
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rahis it OK to use 3.7v 18650 IMR batteries in the Reform 2?12:24
rahor must they be 3.2v LiFePO4?12:25
minuterah: must be lifepo412:28
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rah:-/12:44
pandora[m]Is there a reform 2? Did I. It’s something? :D12:47
joschc-keen[m]: this reminds me that i wanted to write a script that automates updating u-boot to the latest version -- would you like to be my guinea pig? :)12:59
c-keen[m]josch: my pleasure!13:00
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joschc-keen[m]: the reform-check utility (if run as root) should already give you a few commands to run manually13:02
joschbut i wanted to add a tool with some extra checks, for example to make sure that no partitions are overwritten13:02
c-keen[m]ok, will try that tonight13:02
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minutepandora[m]: reform 2 is the one that everyone has. reform 1 was more like a prototype13:25
minutejosch: i will also gladly test an u-boot updater ^^13:26
joschminute: cool! have you already thought about a good interface? i thought to just add a script called reform-flash-uboot which would then check the currently installed uboot, download the new version if necessary and copies it over, making sure to not overwrite partitions on the sd-card for example13:29
joschthe first argument to the script could be either sd or emmc or a direct /dev/... path similar to the interface of reform-boot-config13:31
rahis this the datasheet for the supplied batteries? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0481/9678/0183/files/HTCFR18650-1800-3.2V_Specification.pdf13:34
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blueriseminute: let me know once you have one ready that you can sell me :)14:31
bluerisehappy about prototypes, as you know :D14:31
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minutebluerise: yes, you'll be first :315:31
minutejosch: your proposal sounds very good15:34
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mjwOK, I know I am late to the party, but finally ready to pledge for the pocket reform. It is already at 111% funding, but there are still less than 150 backers that minute said were needed (142 at the moment). Lets increase that by one :)16:12
kunomjw: \o/16:13
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mjw112% Funded, 143 backers16:21
minutemjw: awesome, thank you so much!16:22
mjwACTION is so excited. Now see if I won't exploded from anticipation during the next 7 months :)16:31
kunomjw: purple or black?16:37
mjwclicky purple16:38
kunoACTION too17:09
Boostisbetterminute, a quick question about the pocket development: have you already tested suspend on it?17:41
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vkoskivWhat's the best FOSS CAD program to use?18:54
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JC[m]What's your use case? I like openscad for its programming-style interface and ease-of-use, and freecad for its large feature set.19:23
minuteBoostisbetter: yes, suspend doesn't work yet, but people are working on it, you can see that on the arm kernel mailing list for example 19:24
minuteit's supposed to work but there are some bugs19:25
ZabaWhat kind of usage is the 4 hour battery life figure of the pocket reform based on, by the way?19:47
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vkoskivJC[m]: I want to do some 3D models to try and make a keyboard brace bracket for the Reform20:04
joschvkoskiv: you mean this one? https://community.mnt.re/t/reform-mod-idea-internal-keyboard-brace/137320:19
vkoskivjosch: I saw that one, my idea would grab onto the slot where the trackpad goes and support from the main box itself20:22
vkoskivThen I wouldn't need to worry about stressing the acrylic back.20:22
vkoskivWith the downside that the brace would possibly only work with the trackball, which I mostly use anyway20:23
vkoskivI observed a latency with the trackpad that bothered me, but I haven't tracked down what causes it yet.20:23
joschvkoskiv: i do not see where it would grab onto the trackpad but i would use openscad to design this20:26
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joschah i misread -- you said trackpad in your first message not trackball :)20:30
vkoskivMy idea isn't fully fleshed out yet of course. I'll give openscad a try to see if I could come up with a rough model to work with.20:37
vkoskivI've been meaning to learn more CAD for ages now. I just find it hard to start, especially if I don't have a good excuse to do so :D20:38
vkoskivI have a 3D printer, so I can try out prototypes on the real thing20:38
joschi found openscad really easy to get into. This is nearly all one needs: https://openscad.org/cheatsheet/20:39
joschthe rest is just doing unions and intersections of basic geometrical objects20:39
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bluerisesigh, this pocket reform does catch my interest23:27
joschit's such a cool form factor -- i just have to keep reminding myself that i already spent 900 EUR on the LS1028A module which should be enough money spent on my toys for a while XD23:32
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