| eery | I haven't flown out of EU airports as much but I remember needing to show my passport | 00:07 |
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| chartreuse | I've done Canada to Amsterdam a couple years back, honestly the border at the EU side was so so much quicker and painless compared to coming back into Canada (gotta fill out your paper customs pre-decarlation, then go to a machine to scan it, then wait to go to the desk to talk to the agent before going | 03:55 |
| chartreuse | EU was a quick line with a couple desks you walked right up to, asked a couple questions did a biometric scan with you passport and off you are | 03:55 |
| chartreuse | Flying inside canada is quite different though, I think now a photo id was required, but I did fly back in 2008 IIRC with the least secure method ID, birth certificate and my alberta health care card. Two peices of non-secure paper (at that time) | 03:57 |
| chartreuse | Presumably why this came out, how many people have flown with their reform laptops so far | 03:57 |
| chartreuse | I do find it interesting how the clear bottom showing that there's nothing to hide can make it sometimes appear more "suspicious" | 03:57 |
| eery | I've been stopped by the TSA and had it run through a machine in the back, they didn't make a scene out of it though | 04:15 |
| eery | Although they didn't actually see the clear bottom, just the x-ray of the presumably scary lithium cells | 04:16 |
| klardotsh | I hadn't even considered TSA bullshit with this device. For the past few years I've had pre-check and mostly forget the TSA exists; that expires in May (via another program I'm likely not bothering to renew) and I don't look forward to the old days of electronics being religiously screened | 04:17 |
| klardotsh | the one time pre-precheck I left a laptop in my bag by accident they acted like it was the end of days. got my hands, bag, and laptop all screened for explosives residue and they were extremely perplexed at a laptop booting up to a TTY and not, say, Windows login screen... | 04:18 |
| chartreuse | Swabbing laptops is fairly normal even without the reform, my toughbook was swabbed on an intra-Canada flight a number of years back | 04:18 |
| eery | Depends on the country I think -- I've never seen swabbing in the US, but in some places it's routine to swab everything electronic, down to electric razors | 04:19 |
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| pandora[m] | the swapping is just for explosives and the selection is random (as long as you are not flagged 'SSSS'). Regarding the laptop they just want to see it turns on/boots. Same with big cameras and potential other electronics | 07:18 |
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| sevan | on the mnt reform motherboard, the headphone jack could do with being slightly closer to the edge. With the bezel screwed on to the side of the case, it's not possible to use L shaped jacks on the headphone socket because the bezel prevents the jack from going all the way in. | 19:12 |
| Boostisbetter | minute, functionality with the MNT Camera is that when it is plugged in the led is always red? | 19:13 |
| Boostisbetter | Just making sure. | 19:13 |
| sevan | everything is good on straight jack headphone | 19:13 |
| sevan | apple headphone ok, senheisser hd 25 headphone not | 19:13 |
| sevan | just a heads up since new things are being designed and built :) | 19:15 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: | 19:17 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: yes, when the camera sensor itself is powered | 19:17 |
| Boostisbetter | ok, just making sure. The irony? With this camera Dino video calls on Windows finally worked!!! | 19:18 |
| minute | sevan: oh, sorry for that, and thanks for the insight | 19:18 |
| Boostisbetter | Hahahaha | 19:18 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: lol!! | 19:18 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: you made a videocall using the camera? that's cool | 19:18 |
| sevan | minute: <3 | 19:21 |
| sevan | sevan@reform:~$ sudo dmesg -T|grep nvme | 19:24 |
| sevan | [Tue Jan 24 18:02:48 2023] nvme nvme0: pci function 0001:01:00.0 | 19:24 |
| sevan | [Tue Jan 24 18:02:48 2023] nvme nvme0: Removing after probe failure status: -19 | 19:24 |
| sevan | hmm, gotta reboot, brb | 19:25 |
| sevan | all good now :) | 19:27 |
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| Ar|stote|is | I booted up my reform after quite some time since I had an injury, most cells show 2.9v while one is at 2.4 and one shows 0. If I leave it charging overnight will it try to trickle charge the cells and hopefully bring it back to life? or I have to remove it and try it with an external charger? While one is at 0v the rest won't charge at all right ? | 19:54 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: do you have the protected battery boards? | 19:59 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: 0V is def. unsafe! | 19:59 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: but it could be that it is not measured correctly. do you have a multimeter? | 19:59 |
| Ar|stote|is | i don't have the protected battery boards yet | 20:01 |
| Ar|stote|is | I have now started opening the laptop to measure the cells and try to revive the one that seems to be dead | 20:02 |
| Ar|stote|is | i still have my old 8 batteries so I will find one to replace that one with | 20:02 |
| minute | ah, very good | 20:03 |
| minute | highly recommend the protected battery boards btw | 20:04 |
| Ar|stote|is | i was going to get them but I was waiting to buy a bunch of things altogether to combine shipping | 20:06 |
| minute | oh ok! which country are you in? | 20:06 |
| Ar|stote|is | greece | 20:06 |
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| minute | Ar|stote|is: i see! shipping is 20 eur to eu countries yeah. | 20:09 |
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| sevan | is it safe to use the new u-boot with display support for running debian as-is or does it need extra steps beyond flashing flash.bin? | 20:15 |
| Ar|stote|is | i remember asking Lukas if I could come by their office in Berlin to get stuff but if i remember correctly that is not possible. i was wanting to ask if i could get different keycaps and the laird antenna from the shop along with the rest of the updates. I am now using some wifi antennas gutted from an old laptop | 20:15 |
| vkoskiv | sevan: I just flashed the flash.bin and nothing really changed beyond the fact that I can see u-boot doing its thing now | 20:16 |
| sevan | vkoskiv: cool. That's what I was hoping for too | 20:16 |
| sevan | now just need the animated Nikon logo, just like in the laptop scene in hackers :) | 20:17 |
| Ar|stote|is | it's charging now | 20:39 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: after exchanging the 0v cell? | 20:47 |
| Ar|stote|is | yeah with a 3.3v one from my previous 8 cells | 20:50 |
| josch | minute: can we have a git tag for u-boot? then we could ship the latest u-boot with reform-system-image and also update reform-tools to download the latest u-boot instead of the current tag. | 20:51 |
| minute | josch: could i make you a maintainer of the repo and you would add such a tag? | 20:53 |
| minute | i think it could just be iso date tagged, for example | 20:53 |
| minute | i.e. 2023-01-24 | 20:53 |
| Ar|stote|is | hm minute is Lukas ? | 20:53 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: yes | 20:53 |
| Ar|stote|is | I remember hearing you say you may stock on those Laird antennas in the shop? Can we get different keycaps to exchange the legends on the reform? | 20:54 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: forgot about the laird, i'll write it in my todo list to stock these | 20:55 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: you can totally order keycap sets! | 20:55 |
| josch | minute: sure, i can take care of it | 20:56 |
| minute | josch: awesome | 20:56 |
| minute | josch: added you as a maintainer! | 20:56 |
| josch | cool, thanks! | 20:56 |
| josch | minute: you agree that the current state is good to release? | 20:57 |
| minute | josch: yes | 20:57 |
| minute | i personally have a problem that hdmi doesn't work for me but i think i just messed up my dtb | 20:58 |
| josch | probably -- hdmi works fine for me with the new u-boot | 20:59 |
| Ar|stote|is | but where do i find them in the store ? i can only find the homing keycaps and the pocket reform keycap set. The only place there is to choose keycap sets with different legends is when buying a usb keyboard... | 21:01 |
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| Ar|stote|is | has anyone tried the intel ax wifi cards? | 21:05 |
| josch | vagrantc: i'm about to add a new tag to reform-boundary-uboot. I wanted to talk to you because you said you are packaging it for Debian? One issue is, that there currently exists a tag called "v3" which is ordered as later than any iso8601 date based tag unfortunately :/ | 21:08 |
| josch | vagrantc: can i make your life as uboot downstream somehow easier? | 21:08 |
| Ar|stote|is | As of right now one of the acrylic port covers broke and it allows me to route through the broken piece the antennas from a toshiba satellite i chopped off. I have them taped on the monitor like where they used to be. But when I can order the Laird one I will get the steel port covers. | 21:09 |
| Ar|stote|is | Now i only need to wait for the antennas to come in stock and find the option to just buy keycaps for the reform individually. | 21:09 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: let me check @ keycaps | 21:12 |
| Ar|stote|is | maybe i'll order 10 of these 2000mah batteries too. Never can have enough replacements | 21:14 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: sorry, now they're visible here https://shop.mntre.com/t/hardware/input-devices-usb | 21:15 |
| Ar|stote|is | minute: you could consider adding Greek locale too. Not that I really care about it, I mostly want legends for aesthetic reasons. | 21:19 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: oh hmm! | 21:22 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: i was in athens semi-recently btw | 21:22 |
| minute | tried to learn the alphabet before :D | 21:22 |
| Ar|stote|is | My cart is ready. I just need to wait for the antenna and maybe a wifi card. | 21:23 |
| Ar|stote|is | wish I'd known i would treat you to some beer or whatever floats your boat | 21:24 |
| Ar|stote|is | Alphabet is not that hard. Pronunciation is though because of all the diphthongs | 21:25 |
| vagrantc | josch: oh, well, i package u-boot for Debian, but have not yet packaged any vendor forks ... though i might just package the stuff for the mnt/reform in .deb and maybe a guix package too | 21:32 |
| vagrantc | josch: just probably not uploading to debian ... hard enough keeping track of a "single" u-boot version at this point | 21:33 |
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| minute | RISC OS working https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/109746328754106685 | 22:47 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: yep, I used Dino to have a video call. I made 2 calls and they both worked. This was using Dino on windows. | 22:58 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: great! | 22:58 |
| sigrid | minute: what was the issue? | 23:05 |
| minute | sigrid: i'm not sure, i'm only trying (many many) binary versions that are thrown over the fence to me | 23:06 |
| minute | i guess there is some legacy code in risc os that had to be tamed | 23:07 |
| minute | and it is mostly written in assembly | 23:07 |
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