| josch | flowy: once the motherboard upgrade arrives, i can use the old motherboard and som as a HTPC -- that is of course given that KODI can work with it, which i yet have to try out | 00:02 |
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| flowy | oh right, i forgot about the motherboard upgrade. hmmm then i'm very tempted to design a custom case, for something headless | 00:08 |
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| + nsc (~nicolas@96-96-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) | 04:00 | |
| * nsc -> Guest7287 | 04:01 | |
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| * nsc -> Guest3923 | 06:42 | |
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| + bgs (~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net) | 07:10 | |
| sknebel | flowy: there also was talk of maybe making a dedicated motherboard for "PC" use (i.e. without battery circuits and such, in a more practical format) | 07:40 |
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| josch | linux 6.1.4 is now finally in Debian unstable. I rebased our imx8mq patches onto it and i'm now building. | 10:13 |
| vkoskiv | \o/ | 10:14 |
| josch | minute: once i've tested the result, should i just push it to reform-debian-packages so that it ends up in the mirror or do you want to temporarily pause the updating cron job again? | 10:14 |
| josch | since gstreamer 1.22 still didn't release, we will not see it in the next Debian stable because the freeze period already started | 10:15 |
| josch | minute: do we want to build gstreamer 1.22 as part of reform-debian-packages? | 10:16 |
| minute | josch: you can push it, and gstreamer sounds good to have, too! | 10:17 |
| + jjbliss (~jjbliss@1464766-static.elnsmiaa.metronetinc.net) | 10:18 | |
| josch | reading the mntmn mastodon... seems i should also take a photo of my reform with my copy of neuromancer asap ;) | 10:21 |
| - jjbliss (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~jjbliss@1464766-static.elnsmiaa.metronetinc.net) | 10:22 | |
| minute | josch: oh yeah :D | 10:48 |
| ex-parrot | Very important! | 11:02 |
| ex-parrot | the MNT aesthetic is a very impressive intersection of both cyberpunk but also human | 11:04 |
| ex-parrot | “cyberpunk but nice” | 11:04 |
| josch | minute: the shop.mntre.com checkout process does not have a textbox for additional comments as far as i can see? How would I order the homing keycaps with custom engraving? | 11:05 |
| minute | josch: after ordering, please write to support@mntre.com with your order number. | 11:10 |
| josch | okay, thanks! | 11:11 |
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| c-keen[m] | does freecad currently work on the reform? | 11:43 |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 11:55 | |
| minute | c-keen[m]: should, maybe you need to do `export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb` to avoid a crash | 12:06 |
| c-keen[m] | thanks! | 12:06 |
| minute | i recently designed a piece of furniture using reform and freecad | 12:07 |
| c-keen[m] | I need to design a terrace entry | 12:08 |
| minute | nice | 12:09 |
| josch | QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb was also needed for openscad -- i wonder whether it would be a good idea to publish this somewhere more public? I guess unconditionally setting QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb in ~/.profile is a bad idea for some reason? | 12:09 |
| josch | oh no wait | 12:10 |
| josch | i am re-reading the irc log now... | 12:11 |
| josch | c-keen[m]: do you have the qtwayland5 package installed? | 12:11 |
| minute | josch: yeah, it is not perfect because that will disable wayland for qt apps | 12:11 |
| minute | my guess is that openscad and freecad both use a library that has problems with wayland | 12:12 |
| c-keen[m] | I have to check later | 12:39 |
| minute | i tested it on my intel desktop and i can't use freecad without QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb | 12:50 |
| minute | this is a bug that just doesn't get fixed in debian i guess | 12:50 |
| minute | (or, in a library that freecad uses) | 12:50 |
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| * wielaard -> mjw | 14:53 | |
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| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 15:25 | |
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| josch | Linux reform 6.1.0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.1.4-1+reform20230116T084633Z1 (2023-01-16) aarch64 GNU/Linux | 16:35 |
| josch | coming to a reform in your area real soon as well :) | 16:35 |
| cinap_lenrek | aarsch64 | 16:37 |
| minute | *_* | 16:51 |
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| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 17:49 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 17:49 | |
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| josch | seems my "soon" was rather a "soon[tm]" as linux cannot currentl be cross-built due to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028184 | 18:15 |
| + jjbliss (~jjbliss@1464766-static.elnsmiaa.metronetinc.net) | 18:16 | |
| cinap_lenrek | wtf | 18:17 |
| cinap_lenrek | linux needs python now to compile? | 18:17 |
| sigrid | josch: would it be possible to not depend on /dev/mmc* paths in system image? ie use UUID=... in fstab by default? | 18:17 |
| cinap_lenrek | sigrid: why? | 18:19 |
| cinap_lenrek | isnt this the boot parameter? | 18:19 |
| sigrid | because if you write the same image to a usb flash drive it drops into initramfs rescue mode | 18:19 |
| cinap_lenrek | like you tell the kenrel what your root fs is? | 18:19 |
| sigrid | it expects root fs to be at a specific path | 18:19 |
| cinap_lenrek | ah! | 18:19 |
| josch | sigrid: yes, absolutely | 18:21 |
| sigrid | I also don't understand where does rootfs parameter gets passed | 18:22 |
| sigrid | I updated fstab and ran update-initramfs via chroot, but it still tries to boot off mmcblahblah | 18:22 |
| cinap_lenrek | sigrid: somewhere from the boot.scr | 18:23 |
| sigrid | that's the thing, it's not there | 18:23 |
| cinap_lenrek | D: | 18:24 |
| cinap_lenrek | maybe they hacked the kernel! | 18:24 |
| josch | sigrid: please ping me in a few hours -- baby time right now :) | 18:24 |
| josch | sigrid: if you do not have a boot.scr then the contents of your initrd do not matter because u-boot will not consider a partition without a boot.scr | 18:58 |
| sigrid | I have it | 18:58 |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 18:58 | |
| sigrid | it's in the first partition of the debian image | 18:58 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~Thunderbi@205.185.110.104) | 18:59 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 18:59 | |
| josch | yes | 18:59 |
| josch | the rootfs parameter com | 18:59 |
| josch | the rootfs is decided by the initrmfs which in turn gets its information from /etc/fstab | 18:59 |
| josch | so running "update-initramfs -u" afterwards is correct and should've work | 18:59 |
| josch | *ed | 19:00 |
| sigrid | it did not :( | 19:00 |
| josch | you can look into reform-boot-config for the necessary steps | 19:00 |
| sigrid | ie it ended successfully, but that's about it | 19:00 |
| josch | sigrid: and you ran it with -u? | 19:00 |
| sigrid | yes | 19:00 |
| josch | hrm... | 19:00 |
| sigrid | what's reform-boot-config? | 19:00 |
| josch | it's a small script to make it easier to let the initramfs choose whether to | 19:00 |
| sigrid | ah, it's in /sbin | 19:01 |
| josch | boot from sd, nvme, usb or emmc | 19:01 |
| sigrid | this let's-not-show-all-executables thing debian comes with, I keep forgetting | 19:01 |
| josch | you mean for tab-completion? | 19:01 |
| sigrid | yeah | 19:02 |
| josch | that default is annoying, yes | 19:02 |
| sigrid | anyway, I booted it with "setenv bootargs root=/dev/sda2" for now | 19:02 |
| josch | personally i have /sbin in my PATH and done | 19:02 |
| sigrid | what I *actually* want is to rebuild a device tree | 19:02 |
| sigrid | is there any way to do it fast in debian? | 19:02 |
| josch | what do you mean by "device tree"? a linux dtb? | 19:02 |
| sigrid | yep | 19:03 |
| sigrid | I have a small patch for it, want to try it out | 19:03 |
| josch | hrm... i don't know how to do it reliably without a full rebuild i'm afraid :/ | 19:03 |
| sigrid | that's fine, I can just do a make dtbs I guess | 19:04 |
| sigrid | is there a known deb-src to use? | 19:04 |
| sigrid | or should I clone reform-debian-packages? | 19:04 |
| josch | building from reform-debian-packages would be one way, yes | 19:04 |
| josch | you could edit the dtb there and then just run the script to build a kernel but that will take a long time | 19:05 |
| josch | we currently do not publish the Debian source to the binary package in the reform re | 19:05 |
| josch | *repo | 19:05 |
| josch | so the source is the git repo | 19:05 |
| sigrid | ... build.sh complains about deb-src too | 19:10 |
| josch | sigrid: do you have a log? | 19:11 |
| sigrid | http://okturing.com/src/14834/body | 19:12 |
| sigrid | I'll just use git | 19:13 |
| sigrid | USE_GIT :) | 19:13 |
| + cwebber (~user@user/cwebber) | 19:14 | |
| sigrid | hmmm. patching failed | 19:15 |
| sigrid | guess that was a bad idea | 19:15 |
| josch | ah i know how you got the deb-src error | 19:15 |
| josch | usually, the top-level build.sh script is the entry point and that one adds a deb-src line | 19:15 |
| josch | so you add this line to chdist/base/etc/apt/sources.list: | 19:16 |
| josch | deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main | 19:16 |
| sigrid | oh no, it's 6.1.4 :O | 19:19 |
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| sigrid | ok, I think I'll just do it by hand without debian | 19:22 |
| sigrid | this is too much of a hassle | 19:22 |
| sigrid | sorry | 19:22 |
| josch | sure, nothing to be sorry about :) | 19:22 |
| josch | sigrid: but i still would like to find out about your boot problem -- could you paste your /etc/fstab? | 19:23 |
| josch | for example i have my swap mointed with UUID= which works fine: | 19:24 |
| josch | UUID=56fdfac2-44b8-4616-834e-2b61d1c1ab0a none swap sw 0 0 | 19:24 |
| sigrid | http://okturing.com/src/14835/body | 19:24 |
| josch | i see, nothing out of the ordinary | 19:24 |
| josch | i'll try to reproduce the problem with another sd-card later | 19:25 |
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| sigrid | small change in the device tree, no errors on building, no errors on loading, yet somehow parts of device tree completely disappear from /proc/device-tree | 20:31 |
| sigrid | the magic of linux kernel | 20:31 |
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