| minute | bkeys: i also have a fluke, it's great | 00:04 |
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| - bgs (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net) | 00:08 | |
| bkeys | Yeah my best friend recommended them to me | 00:11 |
| bkeys | My wife also got me a metal toolbox for christmas which is nice | 00:11 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 01:02 | |
| Boostisbetter | FLukes are just expensive, but my brother swears by them | 01:05 |
| bkeys | Yeah with stuff like that my mentality is normally that it's best to spend the money but do so 1 time | 01:32 |
| bkeys | Get the nicest thing you can and then you should never have to worry about needing something better | 01:33 |
| minute | they have really excellent usability etc | 01:52 |
| - ajr (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.7) (~ajr@user/ajr) | 02:57 | |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 03:09 | |
| chartreuse | Yeah, my dad always used a Fluke 87, I eventually found a first gen 87 for myself at a thrift store for a steal ($30 CAD). Though was using a Fluke 77 before that was a garage sale find. They're excellent meters still | 04:30 |
| + robin (~robin@user/terpri) | 06:00 | |
| josch | so... i'm not at home and for some reason i cannot reach my machine in the office via ssh, so i had to build libreoffice on the reform... | 07:18 |
| josch | and yes, 4 GB ram are enough (this is not chromium after all) but the build takes 32 hours utilizing all 4 cores :D | 07:19 |
| eery[m] | Oh that's a terrifying thought | 07:19 |
| eery[m] | I remember finding my boot drive for Wii Linux from my teens, it was running Gentoo, and I had built Firefox on it... | 07:21 |
| - vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:40) | 08:51 | |
| + bgs (~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net) | 09:44 | |
| Boostisbetter | josch: why can't you just use a compiled deb instead? | 09:50 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: because when you develop software you want to change the software and apply patches and then you need to recompile it :) | 10:32 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: background is the gstreamer 1.22 release which requires zxing 1.4 which makes libreoffice fail to compile unless you patch it | 10:33 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1027048 in case you are interested in the gory details as for why i needed to recompile libreoffice :) | 10:34 |
| Boostisbetter | Interesting. I have not found a reason to change anything on most applications I use. | 10:47 |
| minute | ahh > In zxing-1.4.0, numerous headers are no longer public. | 11:18 |
| Boostisbetter | so I am ok with wiping my Reform and starting over using sys-v3 | 11:58 |
| Boostisbetter | Do I need to format my nvme drive before I swap the sd cards and reboot? | 11:58 |
| Boostisbetter | What I would like to do is use the NVME drive again in the same way i am now, just under v3. | 11:59 |
| josch | minute: that and ABI changed without SONAME bump | 12:31 |
| josch | so software compiled against the new zxing would not find the symbols they expect | 12:31 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: you do not want to attempt to port your system over to sysimage-v3? | 12:32 |
| Boostisbetter | nah, it'll be easier to just start over. I have a nextcloud and resilio sync that is holding all of the important stuff, easy to grab again | 12:33 |
| josch | it will definitely be easier, yes :) | 12:35 |
| Boostisbetter | I noticed that suspend to ram was an improvement found in sys v3, is this using the reform suspend script that I've been using? It cuts power consumption by half? | 12:40 |
| Boostisbetter | Also, is there any instructions on how to do the wipe and start over with the most current image? | 12:40 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: which suspend script have you been using? | 13:02 |
| Boostisbetter | the one shared on the forums. It has been very reliable and i believe that was merged with the official image. | 13:03 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 272 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 13:04 | |
| josch | Boostisbetter: did i also comment on that threat? Didn't I say it's the same that sysimage-v3 uses? | 13:06 |
| Boostisbetter | yes I believe you did. Just making sure. | 13:06 |
| josch | i do not know more today than i knew back then :D | 13:10 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:15 | |
| josch | Boostisbetter: i do not think there is a written guide on how to "start over" anywhere yet | 13:19 |
| josch | I'd first pop in a fresh sysimage-v3 sd-card, use reform-flash-rescue to update eMMC and then use reform-setup-encrypted-nvme and/or reform-migrate to setup nvme boot | 13:20 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: just in case this breaks your suspend, maybe make sure you take a snapshot of your system so that you can diff it or restore it just in case | 13:20 |
| + mjw (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:26 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:34 | |
| Boostisbetter | what software are you using to make snapshots? | 13:35 |
| + mjw (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:40 | |
| + mtm (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 15:09 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by wielaard!~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440))) (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:22 | |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 16:22 | |
| + mark_ (~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:22 | |
| minute | typing this from pocket reform with cell connection (LTE) | 18:46 |
| vkoskiv | Nice!! | 18:51 |
| + ajr (~ajr@user/ajr) | 19:04 | |
| + oomono (uid328183@id-328183.tinside.irccloud.com) | 19:12 | |
| Boostisbetter | minute: word up! | 19:28 |
| minute | its pretty neat | 19:37 |
| bkeys | WOOP | 20:01 |
| Boostisbetter | minute, I'm really looking forward to getting this. I would love to help debug and test things. | 20:04 |
| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 20:08 | |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com) | 20:30 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by mark_!~mark@gnu.wildebeest.org))) (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440) | 21:14 | |
| * mark_ -> mjw | 21:14 | |
| + wielaard (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2488:1400:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440) | 21:15 | |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:40) | 21:29 | |
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