2022-12-11.log

+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)00:18
+ GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)00:19
joschBoostisbetter: oh no... if you cannot log in, uninstalling is difficult... you could boot using a rescue sd-card and from there, mount your rootfs, chroot into it and "apt-get remove greetd"00:23
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+ chartreuse (~chartreus@S0106f0f249dfd9c3.cg.shawcable.net)00:59
joschBoostisbetter: this is a priority:critical bug in the greetd package that i was just able to reproduce and filed as https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=102587201:25
joschBoostisbetter: to recover, you need to boot your reform from a different medium (like a rescue sd-card), then mount your rootfs to somewhere (like /mnt) and then either:01:26
joschchroot /mnt apt remove greetd01:26
joschor01:26
joschsed -i 's/$SHELL/\/bin\/bash/' /mnt/etc/greetd/config.toml01:28
BoostisbetterI would prefer the rescue sd card. Can I just use the reform image on a different SD card? I am running off the nvme drive. I was kind of hoping I could just use a live cd on a thumb drive. 01:30
joschBoostisbetter: you can use a thumb drive if your u-boot is compiled from git01:30
joschBoostisbetter: the last uboot tag cannot yet boot from usb01:31
joschBoostisbetter: is your nvme encrypted?01:31
BoostisbetterNo it is not. So I was thinking I might remove the drive and mount it on another computer. 01:35
BoostisbetterAnd just make the config.toml edit you mentioned. 01:35
- GNUmoon (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)01:35
BoostisbetterThen install it. Boot and apt remove greetd01:35
+ GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon)01:36
joschBoostisbetter: yes, if you have a way to install the drive elsewhere, then you can do it exactly as you said.01:37
joschBoostisbetter: in case the other machine is not an arm64 machine but has qemu-user installed, you can even do the chroot and apt remove step there01:40
BoostisbetterI have a Librem 5 I might be able to mount the drive to. 01:41
joschBoostisbetter: is there a nvme usb adapter you can recommend?01:44
- chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a05:dc00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)01:45
BoostisbetterYeah, I have one. But I'll have to look in the morning. Got it off of Amazon.de about a 3 weeks ago. 02:08
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- vagrantc (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)07:38
joschLinux reform 6.0.0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.0.10-2+reform20221207T165015Z1 (2022-12-07) aarch64 GNU/Linux08:05
joschI'll be trying out 6.0.12 later today08:06
- tarxvf (QUIT: Quit: out) (~tarxvf@mail.tarxvf.tech)08:08
+ tarxvf (~tarxvf@mail.tarxvf.tech)08:09
joschalso, when you upgrade you will be shown this release critical mesa bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=102565908:09
joschthis does not affect the reform, so you can upgrade away08:10
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Boostisbetteryeah I saw that yesterday when I updated. It didn't seem to mess with the Reform just as you say.08:36
Boostisbetterjosch, this is the m2 adapter that I got: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B093CY4CNK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=108:37
Boostisbettermy only worry is that I'm not sure it will work with the NVME drive in the Reform. 08:38
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+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:7a05:dc00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)11:17
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joschmy reform-check script is becoming more and more useful! Today I learned: if you have trouble with libreoffice closing drop-down menus as you hover with your mouse over items that create their own submenus, just install libreoffice-gtk3 and the problem is gone! :D12:44
+ bgs (~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net)12:53
joschwould anybody like to try out and give feedback of this initial version of the reform-check script? https://source.mnt.re/-/snippets/214:39
joschi'll post it on the forums as well for some more testing and feedback later during the day14:39
BoostisbetterI would be willing to help but I have to first getting my reform loading correctly after the greetd issue. 14:41
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joschLinux reform 6.0.0-reform2-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 6.0.12-1+reform20221207T165015Z1 (2022-12-07) aarch64 GNU/Linux17:12
joschso the latest reform-debian-packages CI run worked as well :)17:13
minutenice17:13
+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)17:21
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)17:50
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)19:19
joschminute: i was also unable to reproduce the problem you saw with the images from CI -- could you merge some of the merge requests I filed recently against reform-system-image so that the CI produces a new image again?19:37
minutejosch: already merged 3 of them today :3 also, which problem do you mean, the one that appeared on bootup "configure your system" etc? this was indeed gone with the last build19:38
joschminute: interesting... i just did a build today and did not have the problem19:38
joschi'll download the latest image again and try myself19:39
joschmaybe this is a problem with the CI tooling then?19:39
minutehmm? as i said, the problem was already gone19:39
joschah19:39
joschwhoops, parsing error :D19:39
minuteah :D19:39
joschokay, all good then ^^19:39
joschi see your merges now -- thank you!! :)19:40
minutecool, thanks for the MRs!19:42
bkeysjosch: Are you an MNT employee or just a very active contributor?19:47
joschbkeys: thanks for the compliment, I guess XD19:55
joschbkeys: no, i'm just a volunteer19:55
joschwhich is also why my contributions happen on weekends ;)19:55
vkoskivjosch works on (at?) debian19:55
joschwell, nobody works "at" debian -- we are all volunteers there as well :)19:56
josch(though some people are paid for their debian work by the company that employs them)19:56
joschthis is also why my "thank you" messages at minute are quite serious: all i do is for my own hobby interests so it's not a given that minute merges my stuff but if they do, then that's great for me because that minimizes the diff between what i'm running and what is shipped by mntre.com :)20:00
- bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)21:33
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)21:35
bkeysI am gonna build the mainline Fedora kernel into an .rpm, then I will see about building it with the Reform patches21:59
bkeysIf I get that built then I will make a copr repo for it21:59
joschbkeys: don't forget that you not only need the patches but you also need to make sure that you load all the required modules during boot22:06
joschbkeys: this is the list we load manually in Debian: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/reform2-imx8mq/mkuserland.sh#L3922:08
bkeysI have not done much kernel development; I have built kernels but not messed with modules loading at boot22:16
Boostisbetterjosch, so I was able to recover the Reform using my Librem 5 and that m2 to usb adapter I linked to earlier. Worked like a charm. I was able to add the command line and then log into sway where i could then do an apt purge greetd. Back to normal now. 22:33
BoostisbetterSo I highly recommend the adapter. It works with m2 and nvme drives in the m2 format. 22:33
bkeysLibrem5 seemed like a dumpster fire towards the end22:38
bkeysHow is it in reality?22:38
vagrantcheh. that reminds me. i should see if mine works... it finally arrived :)22:40
bkeysYeah I had a google pixel xl 3a that ran grapheneOS and it was just fine for me; but my kid threw it when we were in a museum and it's been gone for some weeks22:43
Boostisbetterbkeys: honestly it has a lot of potential but the issues with buggy cellular reliability and resume from suspend is just frustrating. The reform by comparison is rock solid. 22:43
bkeysI can live fine without a physical phone since I can text and call from XMPP/SIP respectively22:43
BoostisbetterYep, cheogram is great! 22:44
BoostisbetterAlso why the pocket reform is a great alternative to the L5. 22:44
bkeysI agree the Reform is rock solid; I am split between getting another Pixel with GrapeneOS, waiting for the pocket Reform, the pinephone (or librem5 I guess)22:44
bkeysGiven Lukas has done a good job on delivering what he promised the pocket reform and pixel with grapheneos seem like good options22:45
bkeysRight now I am resuming efforts of building a good Fedora image for the Reform; the custom kernel rpm is building right now on my pinebook22:46
vagrantcthe pocket reform seems a curious size... not quite sure what i'd think of it22:48
vagrantca "phone"-sized device is really useful for how portable it is ... the pocket reform seems to be more like a tiny netbook (remember netbooks?)22:49
bkeysYeah it would be nice because you can call and text people but it's not as invasive into your life as a regular phone22:51
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