2022-12-10.log

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bkeysThe Reform using 18650 batteries was a stroke of genius03:36
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joschi haven't had gnome-settings-daemon installed before, so the "exec /usr/libexec/gsd-xsettings" in my sway config would just do nothing10:35
joschnow i installed it (to test the new reform-check script) and suddenly gtk buttons in firefox or gimp are huuuuge10:35
joschdoes anybody know what the connection is? if i remove gnome-settings-daemon everything is in its normal size again10:35
Boostisbettergnome-settings makes those adjustments themselves, and the default settings that it is uses errs on the side of being too large. In the settings application just make sure you don't have scaling on. 10:52
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joschwhat is the "settings application"? :D11:21
joschi haven't used gnome stuff for more than 10 years and i hear lots of things have changed in gnome since then XD11:21
josch(back on my intel laptop i used awesome-wm without any specific DE and without any gnome setting thing)11:22
Boostisbettergnome-command (control maybe)-center11:34
Boostisbetteractually it is control. So gnome-control-center will open the gnome settings application.11:35
joschaha! yes, that might be it -- it's even installed in the full system image, thanks!11:40
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joschBoostisbetter: do you have a tip where in gnome-control-center i can find this scaling setting?13:27
joschaha!13:40
joschthe "problem" is the default sway config13:40
joschit executes at some point: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface font-name 'Inter 14'13:41
joschand that's just way too big for me13:41
minuteah!13:41
joschfunnily this setting only took effect after having gnome-settings-daemon installed and not before so i never noticed13:41
minuteinteresting 13:41
minutetoo big even at scale 1, yeah?13:41
joschi need to finish this reform-check script so that i can pastebin my differences to the default config somewhere :D13:42
joschminute: where would that scale be set?13:42
minutesway output scale i mean13:42
minutealso, there's also gnome-tweak-tool but not sure how much that does nowadays13:43
minutejosch: that reform-check sounds very useful, yep13:43
josch"swaymsg -t get_outputs" says "Scale factor: 1.000000"13:43
minuteok13:46
joschBoostisbetter: i'm now using greetd to automatically log in to sway instead of into a terminal by having 'command = "/usr/sbin/agreety --cmd sway"' in my /etc/greetd/config.toml13:51
joschby using agreety instead of gtkgreet, i'm using the same keyboard layout that my agetty has configured via keyboard-configuration13:52
nockoThe nxp marketing materials are... hard to read. Is the imx8mp a die shrink? What's the advantage over the current soc? Lower-power, slight speed bump, extra peripherals?13:54
nockoAt cursory glance it looks really similar.13:54
minutenocko: 14nm instead of 28nm and display/bus related bugfixes, speed bump to 1800mhz13:57
minuteit also has more fine grained internal power gating abilities if i understand correctly 13:58
nockoNeat, should be lower-power. I wonder if extra ram will eat that power budget.13:58
minutealso afaik 36bit bus13:59
minute8gb is possible13:59
nockoI am pretty happy with 4G on 9front. :)13:59
minutei see! so yeah not sure if you'll get a lot of gain from it on 9front14:00
minutethe heat factor is significant for pocket reform though14:00
nockoWouldn't mind a bit of extra battery life and reduced heat.14:00
minuteit is dramatically cooler14:00
nockoThanks for the info!14:01
Boostisbetterthat would be a big win for the Librem 5 as well. I believe you said that the 3d performance is weaker on the newer chip.14:52
minuteit wasn't apparent on first tests with browsing etc; will need to run 3d games and compare fps 15:06
JC[m]I know I'm super late to this part of the conversation and don't have a computer handy to verify the command syntax, but there is a "monitor" function to gsettings where you can toggle it on, change a setting in the ui, and it should output the parameter you changed.17:11
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joschJC[m]: oooh that is handy, thank you! I just did gsettings list-recursively before and after and then diff-ed the result. :D18:23
luke2Hey, how is the performance on the reform?18:25
joschluke2: depends what you want to do with it. I'm using it as my daily driver so i'm doing email, web, videos and Debian development without issues on it.18:25
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bkeysYeah 8 gigs of RAM would be nice sometimes but even as it is, it's comfy enough for me to daily drive it19:45
bkeysIt's nice not having to lug around a keyboard or trackball cause it's already built into the laptop19:46
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- bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)20:22
sigridwith 9front i am not sure i ever had it use more than 1gb ram. most of it for filesystem cache and ramfs, anyway20:26
joschyeah, this kind of stuff makes 9front really attractive. These kind of stats are mighty impressive I think. I wish normal GNU/Linux would at least try to be similar. :(20:28
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Boostisbetterjosch: any chance you can give me the instructions for getting greetd working? 22:08
joschBoostisbetter: sure, just apt-get install it and then put this into your /etc/greetd/config.toml: 22:10
joschcommand = "/usr/sbin/agreety --cmd sway"22:10
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@static-198-54-135-69.cust.tzulo.com)23:19
BoostisbetterSo I did that and before greetd finished installing it dropped to the console. But after logging and the help file shows it then falls back to asking me to log in. 23:56
BoostisbetterI see it. I installed greetd instead of agreetd. Is there anyway I can uninstall greetd with this thing looping the way it is? 23:58
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