2022-11-05.log

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Boostisbetterwell last night marked the 4th time I did a sudo apt full-upgrade -y and things are still smooth sailing today on the Reform. 10:15
BoostisbetterI did have one issue when the screen saver turned on. When I tried to wake it again, the screen did not come back and instead there was weird lighting and delighting at the top of the screen, while the system seemed unresponsive. not sure what that is all about10:21
Boostisbetterand the wifi is a little wonky as well. Seems like another service is trying to handle things. I'm using nmtui for the cli interface. 10:29
Boostisbetterand the wifi is a little wonky as well. Seems like another service is trying to handle things. I'm using nmtui for the cli interface. 10:33
Boostisbetterso out of curiosity could you use gnome-control-center to handle wifi connection exclusively, or do you HAVE to use something like conman or nmtui?10:36
Boostisbetterand I'm also happy to report that the screensaver bug seems to have resolved itself after a few restarts. 10:51
minuteBoostisbetter: both gnome-control-center and nmtui are frontends for networkmanager and both should work fine10:58
minuteyou should remove connman if it is still around10:58
Boostisbetterok, I've done that. 11:08
Boostisbetterit just seemed like nmtui and gnome control center were conflicting with each other. 11:09
minutethey shouldn't11:10
Boostisbetterdo you know if the metal faceplates degrade signal reception?11:11
Boostisbetterit is weird, becuase my Reform connects at 80% signal strength, then it drops, and the connection is lost, then it comes back. 11:12
BoostisbetterI use a mesh network in the home, and there is no dead zones as a result. 11:12
minuteit is possible @ side panels, but wifi works well for me at least11:21
minute`ps auxw | grep -i connman` doesn't yield anything yes?11:22
minutealso details about the connection drops might appear in dmesg -w11:23
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BoostisbetterThanks, at a meeting now, but will check when I can. Thanks for the tip! 15:27
joschDo others also see random crashes of gimp?15:32
joschSimilarly to crashes of chromium when opening the file-chooser, this also brings down firefox at the same time with it...15:33
- cwebber (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~user@user/cwebber)15:39
joschdidn't the _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1 hack use to be part of the /etc/profile shipped by reform-tools?15:40
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joschbkeys: did you get anything better than 7-9 fps with runelite on the reform?15:59
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bkeysjosch: By what I remember I was able to play runescape just fine17:30
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minutejosch: is your mesa patched?18:29
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flowywhat's this about patched mesa? is there something not currently in sysimagev3 repos?19:01
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flowyjosch: i just opened something in gimp, made a few changes, saved. seemed fine for me. my packages are relatively up to date (<1week). however, i do have the following in my env:19:06
flowyexport XWAYLAND_NO_GLAMOR=119:07
flowythat was necessary a while back to make UI responsive enough to be useable in gimp. not sure why it worked or whether it's still necessary19:08
flowyi wonder if there's anything else that's different in our environments19:10
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joschbkeys: well, runescape being runescape, 7-9 fps are indeed playable -- just wondered whether you maybe got more somehow :)20:08
minutejosch: did you try setting display scale to 1.5 or 2 in sway?20:17
minutethis can help with game perf sometimes20:17
minutebecause the gpu has to fill only a quarter of the pixels in x2 and can cheaply scale up20:17
minutes/display scale/output scale/20:17
joschminute: but setting that would affect my whole desktop, no? The performance seems to be independent of the window size. It's 7-9 fps with a tiny window as well as in fullscreen mode.20:24
josch(building patched mesa right now)20:25
josch 20:32
minutejosch: yes, it would affect your whole desktop. but it can be done dynamically with a script / swaymsg20:58
minutejosch: btw, mesa does not actually have to be patched. it just needs to be from git20:58
Boostisbetterminute: so it was weird but even though I purged connman a long time ago, there was a connman* package in there still. I purged it, and then used gnome settings to turn off wifi altogether. 21:32
BoostisbetterThen after enabling, I saw some messages in dmesg about a 4 way handshake failing, but then it authenticated again and worked. 21:32
Boostisbetterweird stuff, but seems to be working again. 21:33
minuteok cool21:33
Boostisbetterspoke too soon. It was  complaining about SYN flooding on a port, then it deauthenticated, dropped the connection only to reconnect. It is like something is causing it to disconnect and then try reconnecting. 21:35
minutechanged anything about your APs, like firmware or sth?21:44
+ grubmn (~ufotofu@149.248.16.17)22:29
grubmnis there a fix or workaround for reallllly slow nvme drives22:29
grubmnlike, slower than microsd card slow22:30
joschminute: installing mesa from git would make it hard to undo the installation -- so instead i apply the necessary patch to the debian package and that way whatever gets installed can be easily undone without leftover cruft22:35
joschgrubmn: that's the first time i hear of such an issue o022:35
minutejosch: ok, did you get the last/final version of the patch? 22:35
minutegrubmn: yeah, that's a yet unheard of issue. what's the brand/model?22:36
minutejosch: it's also possible that there are other instabilities in the debian version that are fixed in mesa master22:36
grubmnoh, is it? thought i saw a forum post about a slow nvme drive too. hmmm. it's an intel model. hang on i'll check the specific model.22:36
minutefor me it is rock solid except for mmu fault when i click on a picture in telegram desktop (weird)22:37
grubmnhttps://community.mnt.re/t/confirmed-working-nvme-drives/224/922:38
grubmnthat's the post i'm referring to22:38
grubmnintel ssdpekkf512g8l22:38
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