2022-11-04.log

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ex-parrotadding to my list...00:11
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Asmadeuskfx: debian/bin/buildcheck.py complains some symbols were removed or changed (whatever changed means); it's be much easier if the script would print which symbol got what....02:52
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Boostisbetterminute: I like both of those things. I'll have to check it out. 07:54
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c-keen[m]Has anyone in here run the arduino ide as packaged with debian successfully?17:56
c-keen[m]I am using it in sway and get a big white window titled 'Arduino Permission Checker'17:57
minutec-keen[m]: have you tried with `export _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1`?17:59
c-keen[m]minute: that helped indeed thanks!18:03
minutecool.18:04
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c-keen[m]hm, the java version seems to be unable to download board definitions for me, the 2.0.x arduino IDE is electron hell, but they use arduino-cli under the hood which seems to work. BUT there does not seem to be a working toolchain packaged for arm64 for the inkplate definition I wanted to use18:50
minuteugh18:54
minutemaybe inkplate have to provide that? can you bug them about it?18:55
minutethey're a crowdsupply project too..18:55
sknebelhttps://github.com/SolderedElectronics/Croduino-Board-Definitions-for-Arduino-IDE hm, there are some aarch64 bits in there19:13
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sknebelah, nvm https://github.com/SolderedElectronics/Croduino-Board-Definitions-for-Arduino-IDE/issues/119:14
sknebel"Sorry, but official support for aarch64 is not available for ESP32 boards."19:14
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minutesknebel: pfft19:19
minutemight be far fetched, but you could run the x64 version with box6419:19
sknebel(is "official support" here them or espressif? not quite clear)19:20
sigridI had the same problems with espressif tools, resorted to doing dev on another machine via ssh+sshfs19:35
sknebelgood to know. disappointing, but good to know19:37
joschthe arm cortex a53 on the imx8mq do not have any virtualization feature like kvm, correct?19:41
minutejosch: it does19:53
minutejosch: i was running windows 10 for arm in it via kvm19:53
vkoskivHow was perf?19:53
minuteqemu-kvm, that is19:53
minutekinda bad because there was no gpu driver19:53
vkoskivAs in win10 doesn't support the qemu one?19:54
vkoskivOr qemu doesn't support etnaviv?19:54
joschqemu-system-aarch64: KVM is not supported for this guest CPU type19:54
joschqemu-system-aarch64: kvm_init_vcpu: kvm_arch_init_vcpu failed (0): Invalid argument19:54
minuteyeah, only dumb framebuffer19:54
minutejosch: what's the guest?19:54
joschno guest, just with -kernel ... -initrd ...19:55
minutejosch: guest needs to be same cpu as host (cortex-a53), and also gic version needs to be correct19:55
joschdoesn't even load the kernel because it doesn't like the --enable-kvm option19:55
joschguest? you mean machine, right?19:55
joschi used -machine virt19:55
minutejosch: i said guest because it complains about "guest CPU type"19:56
minute> Note that the default is cortex-a15, so for an AArch64 guest you must specify a CPU type19:56
minutesee https://qemu.readthedocs.io/en/latest/system/arm/virt.html19:57
joschuuuh got it!19:59
joschqemu-system-aarch64 --enable-kvm -cpu host -machine type=virt,gic-version=host -nographic -smp 1 -m 51219:59
joschthose docs were useful!20:00
minuteyeah!20:01
minutei think i ran FreeBSD that way too20:02
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vkoskivOoh, just remembered! It's friday, time to (finally) try out 9front on the Reform!20:52
sigridgl :) please ask questions if any20:56
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minuteweird debian problem on my intel pc:21:33
minuteThe following packages have unmet dependencies:21:33
minute gcc-12-aarch64-linux-gnu : Depends: libgcc-12-dev-arm64-cross (>= 12.2.0-9cross2) but 12.2.0-3cross2 is to be installed21:33
joschminute: that's what I said a few days ago -- cross building is broken for a few days21:35
minuteah, that's that!21:35
josch it got even more broken because the linux kernel fails to build for arm6421:35
joschso no linux-libc-dev21:35
joschusing packages from testing should work though21:36
joschthe past few weeks were quite cray with new uploads of gcc, glibc and linux regularly21:37
joschat least there is the freeze in a few months, so time to relax then :)21:38
minutehehe :321:38
kfxwhen I run debian I just put testing and unstable both in sources.list21:45
kfxit prevents a lot of this confusion as packages get shoved in and promoted and shifted around21:46
minutei finally got UEFI to work on nvidia xavier nx, lets see if i can boot a debian arm iso22:00
minutewow, that works22:07
minutewith graphical installer22:07
minuteusb doesn't work there though woops22:08
minutestrange, normal installer also doesn't accept input. grub does22:09
minutetrying fedora next22:12
minutehaha fedora is stuck with a single cursor character on screen.22:26
minuteok, that concludes my trip to nvidia land for today22:26

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