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joschKooda: we now have a linux-image-5.19.0-reform2-arm64_5.19.6-1+reform1_arm64.deb for you to install: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/889/artifacts/browse/repo/pool/main/l/linux/12:29
joschI don't have my reform with me right now -- anybody wants to give it a try and see if it still boots?12:32
Boostisbettersorry josch, I'm not that brave. 13:04
Boostisbetterhahaha13:04
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minutejosch: i can try it latest tomorrow15:02
joschthat's when i'll also try it because my reform is in my office :)15:02
joschminute: if you can accept the reform-handbook MR we can re-enable building that again as well15:03
minuteyeah, last night i didn't have my login data on the phone15:12
minutejosch: merged 2 MRs15:17
joschthanks! re-enabled building reform-handbook in reform-debian-packages15:29
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Boostisbetter👍👍16:53
eeryjosch: I'll give it a try16:56
eeryNo luck, it's failing somewhere before bringing up the internal display17:02
eeryAlthough it's possible I did something wrong installing the new kernel too17:02
joscheery: are you connected to it via serial? does it boot at least?17:10
eeryoh no I'm an idiot, sorry -- I didn't generate a new initramfs, so that's it17:11
joscheery: how did you install the kernel? isually the initramfs is automatically generated in a trigger17:11
eeryI'm running fedora on my reform so I just extracted the deb file and copied the kernel image and modules over manually17:12
joschah okay17:13
eeryI'll probably just go ahead and set up a aarch64 debian chroot with the Reform repos enabled for this sort of thing17:14
joscheery: will a Debian initramfs boot Fedora?17:19
eeryit does lol, I've just been literally using the boot partition from the sysimage package17:20
eeryI was pleasantly surprised17:20
Koodajosch: oh cool, thanks. Trying it17:38
Kooda(I guess it’s the one in the repo already)17:38
+ doctorhoo (~hanno@194-18-252-127-no2005.tbcn.telia.com)17:39
Koodajosch: no internal display, but it seems to be booting (trackball gets initialized / blinks)17:53
joschKooda: no internal display can mean that the modules do not get loaded17:53
KoodaI’ll check in a bit with a serial terminal18:04
joschKooda: but you upgraded a sysimage-v3, right?18:33
Koodayup18:33
Koodahttp://lxp.fr/p74O0d0qFw18:33
Koodahere’s the kernel log. I guess I can’t go much further because it’s probably asking for my passphrase on the display18:33
joschminute: could you manually yank the kernel from the repo and stop the automatic updater until we fix the problem?18:33
joschminute: to prevent that others accidentally "apt upgrade" to it18:34
joschseems i was too trusting about 5.19 not breaking anything...18:34
Kooda[    7.982548] [drm:ti_sn_bridge_probe [ti_sn65dsi86]] *ERROR* failed to create panel bridge18:35
Koodathis is suspicious maybe18:35
joschyup, this looks like the problem18:38
joschseems another bisecting session is needed to figure out what broke this... :(18:38
KoodaUnrelated: boot.scr.bak loads 5.19 instead of 5.18, I suppose that’s not the wanted behaviour? :Þ18:44
joschKooda: why not?18:49
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:20)18:52
KoodaI thought the .bak would be a backup of the one that was there before the upgrade.19:00
Koodathus loading the previous kernel19:00
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minutejosch: i stopped the hourly update now and > rm pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-5.19.0-reform2-arm64_5.19.6-1+reform1_arm64.deb pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-arm64_5.19.6-1+reform1_arm64.deb20:17
minutejosch: anything else that should be deleted?20:17
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joschminute: thank you, that's sufficient to prevent people from upgrading into an unbootable system20:21
joschKooda: no, "loading the previous kernel" is not a functionality offered by the boot.scr -- we could have this with extlinux.conf though20:22
vagrantcdoes the display work from u-boot yet?21:50
minutevagrantc: no.21:54
vagrantcso that would limit ability to select a different kernel too21:54
minuteyeah, a workaround would be to use the OLED21:55
vagrantcif the boot.scr is based on flash-kernel's generic boot script, you can set the kernel version to load by interrupting boot and : setenv fk_kvers 1.2.3-VARIANT21:56
vagrantce.g. 5.19.0-1-arm6421:56
vagrantcKooda: unfortunately, there are long-standing bugs in flash-kernel that cause flash-kernel to be run multiple times, effectively overwriting the .bak version21:57
vagrantcKooda: https://bugs.debian.org/86213921:58
vagrantcminute: interacting with the OLED display for u-boot ... that would be interesting :)22:00
joschvagrantc: for that, u-boot would first need to be able to recognize the keyboard at all ;)22:05
vagrantcdetails, details22:05
joschvagrantc: isn't #862139 similar to the "problem" that when installing the kernel, the initramfs is built twice which is also just wasteful?22:06
vagrantcjosch: sure22:07
vagrantctriggers *mostly* solves that, but there are some cases where it happens22:07
vagrantcand with flash-kernel, it pretty much happens at least twice, sometimes three times...22:08
vagrantci guess a simple workaround would be to compare the generated file against the one being installed, and if they're identical, not bother to reinstall22:09
vagrantcthough i think there may be some non-deterministic stuff in there22:09
vagrantcer, compare the installed file to the newly generated one22:09
joschand you would still spend cpu-cycles generating the new version even if you don't need to install it22:09
vagrantcwell, for flash-kernel boot scripts, that's fairly cheap22:10
vagrantci'll take a few extra cycles if it means the end result is correct any day22:10
vagrantcor even just less wrong22:10
joschsure, doesn't matter much for flash-kernel22:11
joschone could also see this as further motivation to migrate to u-boot-menu instead ;)22:11
vagrantci really need to find the time, motivation and/or other people to help obsolete flash-kernel with some better things22:12
vagrantcit has suffered feature creep over the years and it show22:12
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